[moeharri]

Check this out: http://www.fusionchallenge.com/

See, Ford tells me it's the better car, according to 600 Car and Driver readers...lol. Anyway, I'm just kidding about buying a Fusion, I think the interior would make me sick on a daily basis (not to mention the tail lights), frequent trips to the stealership to fix it, etc.

Anyway, does anyone have details on which cars they tested? They say they tested an AWD Fusion, but it looks like the Camry is the XLE. Then, they have people complain about the handling--go figure. Gee, I wonder why the most luxurious, soft Camry wouldn't handle super well. Also, I suppose they gave the Fusion the 6 cylinder and the Accord and Camry a 4 cylinder automatic.

I figured some of you might find this as amusing as I did :lol:

 

[astrokat]

This reminds me of when Mitsubishi went head to head with the Camry and they had that smear campaign. The commercials would end with the camry getting owned in all these unlikely senerios. :lol:

 

[moeharri]

A while ago Ford had a commercial where a Fusion would pull up to a stop light that had a Camry owner sitting there. The Camry guy would look jealously at the Fusion as it took off from the stop light. I thought of trying to remake the commercial where it would be pretty much as Ford had it, but I'd add on to the end of the commercial. It would be the Camry driving past the Ford broken down on the side of the road 1 block later. Anyway, I thought it was a funny idea

 

[jonshepp]

One day all these american car manufacturers will figure out that STYLE COUNTS. all these american interiors are so hard line, copies of every other american interior. Seriously its like who the hell would buy a Dodge Viper GT and expect the same damn radio and head unit as a Dodge Intrepid but lo and behold there it is.

Radio, Gauge Cluster, and Steering wheel UGLY!

 

[gdanaher]

Let me share my Fusion story. It's because I'm a geeky type of guy and have a little fun at Ford's expense. Understand my physical structure puts me at about 6 feet tall but with short legs and long torso so I sit high in the seat. Camry has plenty of head room for me thankfully, but at the state fair a bit over a year ago, Ford was introducing their new Fusion. They had a nice bright red one sitting in the middle of a circle of other Fords and the sales guy and gal were standing nearby, encouraging folks to take a test sit. The sun roof was open. I adjusted the seat back so I could squeeze myself into the thing and twisted my head around to the side so I was able to get into the seat, at which point I sat up nice and straight. My head came out through the gaping hole for the sun roof so that my head was above the car down to the base of my nose anyway. I turned around and got the attention of the sales crew and, loud enough to be heard from the chuckling audience, asked if the Fusion came with a set of goggles to keep the bugs out of my eyes. Everyone was rolling, except for the the Ford guys. Ford really ought to consider designing cars that real people can sit in without touching doors or roofs.

 

[repocop]

Let me share my Fusion story. It's because I'm a geeky type of guy and have a little fun at Ford's expense. Understand my physical structure puts me at about 6 feet tall but with short legs and long torso so I sit high in the seat. Camry has plenty of head room for me thankfully, but at the state fair a bit over a year ago, Ford was introducing their new Fusion. They had a nice bright red one sitting in the middle of a circle of other Fords and the sales guy and gal were standing nearby, encouraging folks to take a test sit. The sun roof was open. I adjusted the seat back so I could squeeze myself into the thing and twisted my head around to the side so I was able to get into the seat, at which point I sat up nice and straight. My head came out through the gaping hole for the sun roof so that my head was above the car down to the base of my nose anyway. I turned around and got the attention of the sales crew and, loud enough to be heard from the chuckling audience, asked if the Fusion came with a set of goggles to keep the bugs out of my eyes. Everyone was rolling, except for the the Ford guys. Ford really ought to consider designing cars that real people can sit in without touching doors or roofs.

Real people? you sound like a circus freak...


You guys keep laughing about the Fusion, I don't see Fusions having nearly the mechanical woes the Camry is having right now... sometimes wish i'd looked a little closer at them ... ok no not really.

 

[loby6]

Check this out: http://www.fusionchallenge.com/

See, Ford tells me it's the better car, according to 600 Car and Driver readers...lol. Anyway, I'm just kidding about buying a Fusion, I think the interior would make me sick on a daily basis (not to mention the tail lights), frequent trips to the stealership to fix it, etc.

Anyway, does anyone have details on which cars they tested? They say they tested an AWD Fusion, but it looks like the Camry is the XLE. Then, they have people complain about the handling--go figure. Gee, I wonder why the most luxurious, soft Camry wouldn't handle super well. Also, I suppose they gave the Fusion the 6 cylinder and the Accord and Camry a 4 cylinder automatic.

I figured some of you might find this as amusing as I did :lol:

My 11 year old son was smart enough to see through that scam. He said our SE would smoke that Fusion, why didnt they test the SE Dad ?????

 

[akira751]

My 11 year old son was smart enough to see through that scam. He said our SE would smoke that Fusion, why didnt they test the SE Dad ?????

smart kid.

 

[dirtdiggler]

fusion - honda prelude headlamp and tail light parts.. ford trying to trick people its a honda.

 

[thapranksta]

One day all these american car manufacturers will figure out that STYLE COUNTS. all these american interiors are so hard line, copies of every other american interior. Seriously its like who the hell would buy a Dodge Viper GT and expect the same damn radio and head unit as a Dodge Intrepid but lo and behold there it is.

Radio, Gauge Cluster, and Steering wheel UGLY!

I agree. I thought it was just me. American car interiors are usually "square" and plain. I test drove a Fusion before and it's OK I guess but definitely not a Camry. Interior is pretty bland looking and the steering wheel is noticably harder to turn than a Camry. I guess it is a difference between Ford and Toyota. I definitely prefer the ease of steering that comes with a Toyota. Handling was decent. The model I drove was a V6 I think. There was not much of a noticable increase of power from my 4 cylinder 2003 Camry to the 6 cylinder 2000(ish) Fusion. The Fusion just had lower RPM than my Camry as it accelerated.

Anyways.............as far as reliability I have no real idea. My fiance wanted a Mercury Milan. Then she wanted a Ford Fusion. I know they are the same car but she swore they were different. :lol::lol: She eventually ended up with a 2005 Impala which has a nice amount of power and is a decent competitor with the Camry IMO. Of course, I still prefer my Camry though.

 

[MAR]

Your camry has some cool looking lights, pranksta. The Malibu is aimed at the camry though, not the impala.

 

[repocop]

There is not enough information provided on the models/trims used for that challenge for it to be anything but marketing hype. Toyota would do the same thing if they felt it was needed to promote a NEW model of car.

The fusion is a new car for the 05 or 06 year model, so anyone that thinks they drove one prior is sadly mistaken.

also, anyone who thinks in this context (meaning a performance comparison) that "ease of steering" is a good thing, knows nothing about driving dynamics and what it is to be a 'drivers car' and just needs to find the exit to this thread and go about their business.

stock for stock, comparing NON SPORT models (because there exists no sport model of the fusion, SE in ford lingo does not mean sport like Toyota), the Fusion absolutely turns CIRCLES around the Camry, according to Edmunds, the Fusion SEL (loaded) could manage a 64.2MPH slalom, the Camry XLE? 60.5, that is a HUUUUUUUUUGE difference.

The Fusion also got top marks in the steering department, because it does have phenomenal steering response and feedback, just like its little brother the Focus and big brother the Five Hundred.

Keep hating on the car if you must, but that makes you no better than the TL boys on this forum.

:/

 

[thapranksta]

The fusion is a new car for the 05 or 06 year model, so anyone that thinks they drove one prior is sadly mistaken.

:/

Who's hating, lol? I said the handling was decent but then again I can say my car handles only decent right now too. lol. On another note, my car is a stock LE as far as suspension. As far as steering, I think it depends on your taste. After driving a couple of Ford cars (Mercury Mystique and Ford Fusion) and driving two Camrys (a 95 and 03), I prefer the feel of steering the Camry. The steering is looser and more responsive IMO because of it.


In my post, I said "2000(ish)". By this I mean that I am not sure what year model I drove. I am sure that it was a Ford Fusion. There is no way to mistake it even with the car that I think Ford truly mimics it with - the Cadillac CTS.

As far as a little biasis toward the Camry, you are on a Camry forum. What do you expect?:lol:

 

[camrycoupe95]

No doubt the Fusion, Milan and Zephyr/MKZ are H U G E improvements of the Contour and Mystique. These new cars are based on the CD3 platform which of course are shared by the Madza 6. I'm not the biggest Ford fan but these 3 cars are not bad at all.

 

[repocop]

lol

LOOSER IS NOT BETTER

i'm sorry you enjoy a loose suspension that lets you float down the road on a pillowy soft bed of rose petals, free from such cumbersome interaction with the road that the slightest bump might afford.



*pulls up next to Pranksta at a light and rolls down his window*
Excuse me good sir! Might you have any Grey Poupon?

 

[repocop]

and BTW since when is 'ish' ok when theres like a 5 or 6 year discrepency? It just makes it far too easy to question whether or not you even drove a fusion to begin with

"Oh Fiesta.. well they both started with 'F', golly!"

 

[thapranksta]

Well, man..................I understand that these are your opinions and I respect that. Like I said before, I test drove a Fusion and that's what I thought of it. I prefer the Camry over the Fusion. Not saying the Fusion is a bad car. I have nothing negative to say about it. Obviously the Camry beats all the Ford cars in sells for a reason though.

Given your track record with starting debates over nothing and blowing things waaaaay out of proportion, I am not surprised that you would try to make an argument about the year of the car I drove :lol:. I did drive a Fusion and since it is in its first generation, that's all that matters as far as comparison. The year is not an issue at all.

In the previous thread that you were in which the mod locked, he mentioned that 95% of the people on this forum will favor Toyota over other brands. This is obvious since everyone on this forum owns a Toyota. I know I am bias to some degree and I will admit it. If you have issues with Toyota, you should take your frustration to them.

In regards to this thread, I am completely done. You got your wish.:slap:

 

[repocop]

lewl

 

[neil0311]

lol

LOOSER IS NOT BETTER

i'm sorry you enjoy a loose suspension that lets you float down the road on a pillowy soft bed of rose petals, free from such cumbersome interaction with the road that the slightest bump might afford.



*pulls up next to Pranksta at a light and rolls down his window*
Excuse me good sir! Might you have any Grey Poupon?

Repocop, no disrespect, but we don't all live in the south where roads are pristine and smooth. I live in the northeast where roads are patched and pot holed, and when I drive my wife's Ford Freestyle (the crossover version of the 500) which has a stiffer suspension, I feel every bump. In my Camry XLE, the suspension absorbs most of the road imperfections, and I get a much smoother ride. I have no illusions that I have a BMW, and I'm not driving on the autobahn. Comfort is what I want. I always get a chuckle when I hear people mention what is and what isn't a "driver's car".

 

[wireless]

Repocop, no disrespect, but we don't all live in the south where roads are pristine and smooth. I live in the northeast where roads are patched and pot holed, and when I drive my wife's Ford Freestyle (the crossover version of the 500) which has a stiffer suspension, I feel every bump. In my Camry XLE, the suspension absorbs most of the road imperfections, and I get a much smoother ride. I have no illusions that I have a BMW, and I'm not driving on the autobahn. Comfort is what I want. I always get a chuckle when I hear people mention what is and what isn't a "driver's car".

My SE is jsut fine on NE roads, all the way from DC to Portsmouth and everything in between.

And if you think roads in the south are pristine...ha.