[fenixus]

yea guys just found this
http://www.harborfreight.com/10-piece-color-coded-12-drive-metric-socket-set-67871.html

yeah I've seen those color ones for 1/2'' in HFT, but 15mm wasn't included in my socket set with ratchet and stuff in a box anyways.
not a problem either way, because I still have the 15mm socket in 3/8'' set (SAE+metric by Duralast) so I can use it with 1/2'' via adapter.

I was just trying to think of a non metric equivalent, but there isn't one. So 15mm is what the thing has to be. Just don't recall seeing any nut or bolt that was 15mm before. I have a 15mm in my 3/8 drive set, but never once used it. BTW, I have a 1/2 drive shallow 6 point set made by Craftsman, but it's 25+ years old.

I love the old Craftsman ratchets, I have a set of fine tooth from way back when, best ratchets hands down IMO.

exactly. now I recall what I tried on that nut. I actually tried on all similar SAE sockets (don't ask me about sizes) but none of them fit tight, only 15mm metric was a tight fit, so it must be it.

as I wrote above, I have that socket in 3/8'' set and that was literally the very first time I used it after swapping front strut assemblies to Monroe Quickstruts hehe :lol: ... and now I have to keep using it every time I need to remove the strut brace on both cars :facepalm:

I wish 1/2'' shallow socket sets were commonly 6-point, but since almost all (below $50) are now 12-point then oh well, let's use them ...

 

[JohnGD]

9/16" = 14.29mm. I recall going through metric sockets and ended up having to use SAEs on Monroes and Gabriels.

The old set I got from HF was 6-point. Then they switched over to 12-point in exactly the same setup - with the longer rubber grip breaker bar. The latest has the blow-mold case and a 14" all metal breaker bar. Now the only HF 6-points are the impact sockets.

 

[pmesfun]

I prefer 6 point also, like BMR said less likely to round off important nuts/bolts. I do use them on bolts than have less torque, just to snug them down.

I wouldn't use any 12 point socket around the timing belt area, for example.

 

[LynchburgCSI]

I'm rocking this. Just had to reorganize everything in it since I accidentally kicked the case when it was open last. It has both 12 and 6 point shallow sockets... SAE and Metric. The deep well sockets are all 12 point. I do have a 6 point deep well 10mm though.

 

[fenixus]

9/16" = 14.29mm

I recall going through metric sockets and ended up having to use SAEs on Monroes and Gabriels.

wondering if they changed something since then. I clearly remember that on "15mm" nut the smaller similar SAE socket (probably 9/16) did not fit and the next one up (have no idea what that is, I hate those fractional numbers, can't remember them ever) was way too loose.

I will check again tomorrow on i4 having both 14mm and 15mm nuts over front monroe struts. will be finally tightening down the p/s belt and fixing the leaky distributor plug (if weather is not too windy).

I prefer 6 point also, like BMR said less likely to round off important nuts/bolts. I do use them on bolts than have less torque, just to snug them down.

I wouldn't use any 12 point socket around the timing belt area, for example.

I think the risk of rounding the hex head bolt with 12-point socket starts at way higher torques than timing area (max 80ft-lbs for crank bolt on 5s-fe, max 40ft-lbs on 1mz-fe).

however they may slip on rusty or already stripped bolts way easier than the 6-point sockets (less likely).

I'm rocking

this. Just had to reorganize everything in it since I accidentally kicked the case when it was open last. It has both 12 and 6 point shallow sockets... SAE and Metric. The deep well sockets are all 12 point. I do have a 6 point deep well 10mm though.

that's one hell of a set :thumbsup:

how much was it?

 

[pmesfun]

I have the 106 pc. set, perfect for me since I already have the Duralast wrench set.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00936106000P?prdNo=18&blockNo=18&blockType=G18

I got it 50% off during the holiday season.

 

[LynchburgCSI]

that's one hell of a set :thumbsup:

how much was it?

Thanks! I want to say $189.99 during Christmas 2009 when I got it. One of the few tools i've spent big money on.

 

[JohnGD]

Very possible. I think it's the lowest bidder of the batch. :lol:

wondering if they changed something since then. I clearly remember that on "15mm" nut the smaller similar SAE socket (probably 9/16) did not fit and the next one up (have no idea what that is, I hate those fractional numbers, can't remember them ever) was way too loose.

 

[ajkalian]

Thanks! I want to say $189.99 during Christmas 2009 when I got it. One of the few tools i've spent big money on.

Buying tools in a set from Sears when they are on sale is the way to go. I'd use $1.00/piece as a guideline. So if it is a 200 piece set you should expect to pay $200.00 for it. And you got it for a little less.

Spending money on Craftsman tool sets like that, is the biggest no brainer in the history of mankind. You will have those tools, and hopefully more, giving you good service until the day you die.


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[fenixus]

hey, I checked those nuts on front Monroe mounts again and they ARE 14mm on passenger side and 15mm on driver side (talking about i4 engine car) LOL :lol:

no SAE sockets fit the 15mm one. 9/16'' is way too small and next one up 5/8'' is way too loose.
however I discovered the funniest part, 14mm vs 15mm are interchangeable they share the same thread, so studs are same, only nuts are different. so I may visit local Home Depot and get 9 (or a dozen) of 14mm hex head nuts for the same thread pattern and hardness (10) and get rid off the idiotic 15mm nuts on both cars

 

[JohnGD]

That's a problem with aftermarket specifications sometimes. :facepalm:

These nuts should be flanged and are considered one-use lock nuts. So if you change them I'd get the flanged ones or use a medium strength threadlocker on standard grade 10 nuts.

hey, I checked those nuts on front Monroe mounts again and they ARE 14mm on passenger side and 15mm on driver side (talking about i4 engine car) LOL :lol:

no SAE sockets fit the 15mm one. 9/16'' is way too small and next one up 5/8'' is way too loose.
however I discovered the funniest part, 14mm vs 15mm are interchangeable they share the same thread, so studs are same, only nuts are different. so I may visit local Home Depot and get 9 (or a dozen) of 14mm hex head nuts for the same thread pattern and hardness (10) and get rid off the idiotic 15mm nuts on both cars

 

[fenixus]

right, they are flanged. however there is nothing one-use about them :lol:
I have to remove them (2 out of 3 on each mount) every time I need the strut brace off and that means usually always when I work on top portion of cars' engine haha :lol:

I will look for flanged nuts. nut sure though if any chain store carries them?

That's a problem with aftermarket specifications sometimes. :facepalm:

These nuts should be flanged and are considered one-use lock nuts. So if you change them I'd get the flanged ones or use a medium strength threadlocker on standard grade 10 nuts.

 

[LynchburgCSI]

Buying tools in a set from Sears when they are on sale is the way to go. I'd use $1.00/piece as a guideline. So if it is a 200 piece set you should expect to pay $200.00 for it. And you got it for a little less.

Spending money on Craftsman tool sets like that, is the biggest no brainer in the history of mankind. You will have those tools, and hopefully more, giving you good service until the day you die.

Thanks for the $1.00/piece tip. I like that. Also, we have a set of craftsman tools that have outlasted my grandfather's life. Currently with my father, as I have my own set right now. But still. Good stuff.

 

[Mr.Nutcase]

I was just trying to think of a non metric equivalent, but there isn't one. So 15mm is what the thing has to be. Just don't recall seeing any nut or bolt that was 15mm before. I have a 15mm in my 3/8 drive set, but never once used it. BTW, I have a 1/2 drive shallow 6 point set made by Craftsman, but it's 25+ years old.

I love the old Craftsman ratchets, I have a set of fine tooth from way back when, best ratchets hands down IMO.

15mm is used in GM and some Fords...