Just Installed Pioneer Premier PRS Comps

1052 Views 5 Replies 4 Participants Last post by R6Rocket718, Jan 25, 2007

R6Rocket718

Discussion Starter · Jan 24, 2007

This was originally a PM to Cam. Like he pointed out in his previous post about PM'ing him, I can probably get some good answers from others on here:

--I just had my set of Premier's installed. I am running them off an Alpine MRV-F345 (rating sheet with amp had it at 101 watts per channel), connected with a Kicker PKD4 amp kit, Stinger Pro (I think it is called) speaker wire, and have Marv's baffles (including the ones for the tweets). I am soon to order Raamat, as well.

My first impression was that I wasted my money. It sounds better than the stock speakers but not by what I was expecting. I know that I definately need a sub cause I was expecting to have bass levels similar or better than the stock set up but this is not the case.

After I put on some good quality recordings (quality of sound varied A LOT depending on the track being played--they were downloaded from Itunes), I started to like the sound better.

This is my first system and I know that I need to have a sub but should I wait to judge the sound of these speakers until I get one or are they going to sound similar but with bass? They are nice but I wasn't blown away like I have been hearing other set ups like my buddy running Boston Pro's in his Envoy.

As far as sub, I did some research on the IDQ10 like you recommened and I'm going to go with that. The guy installing the system said I need the dual 2 ohm version since he'll bridge channels 3 & 4 (Alpine advertises 300 watts from 3/4).

The box you recommeded:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Toyota-Tacoma-Extended-Cab-05-07-Lg-Console-Sub-Box_W0QQitemZ220073197273QQihZ012QQcategoryZ50565Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This has .75 cu ft of air space but ID (I called them) said it would be too big and that .50 to .60 cu ft is best for the IDQ10. I then called the box maker and he said I could just put some wood or styrofoam pieces in the box and secure them with double-sided tape and that should cut the air space down to the desired level.

Is that a viable option to cut air space and make that sub shine?--

I hope that some extra wood secured in the box will be fine cause I really like the box but will not sacrifice sub performance for it.

Thanks for the help!

See less See more

Save

1 - 6 of 6 Posts

cam2Xrunner

· #2 · Jan 25, 2007

R6Rocket718 said:
This was originally a PM to Cam. Like he pointed out in his previous post about PM'ing him, I can probably get some good answers from others on here:

--I just had my set of Premier's installed. I am running them off an Alpine MRV-F345 (rating sheet with amp had it at 101 watts per channel), connected with a Kicker PKD4 amp kit, Stinger Pro (I think it is called) speaker wire, and have Marv's baffles (including the ones for the tweets). I am soon to order Raamat, as well.

My first impression was that I wasted my money. It sounds better than the stock speakers but not by what I was expecting. I know that I definately need a sub cause I was expecting to have bass levels similar or better than the stock set up but this is not the case.

After I put on some good quality recordings (quality of sound varied A LOT depending on the track being played--they were downloaded from Itunes), I started to like the sound better.

This is the sign of a good set of speakers. If you're using a bad recording, you're gonna hear it. If you're using a Sheffield or Telarc recording, you will know why you spent the money on a good pair of speakers.

It could also be your sound settings.

What kind of processing (stereo) are you using? Where is the HPF set at on it, where is the HPF set on the amp?

If you'd like to see some good midbass from your mids, don't cross them over any higher than 80hz. 60hz would be better.

After you deaden your doors the increase in midbass will be very noticeable.

This is my first system and I know that I need to have a sub but should I wait to judge the sound of these speakers until I get one or are they going to sound similar but with bass? They are nice but I wasn't blown away like I have been hearing other set ups like my buddy running Boston Pro's in his Envoy.

It's in the install, Boston Pro's are good speakers, and I feel the PRS comps are as good as them. Read this review of the PRS comps.

http://www.caraudiomag.com/testreports/0612_caep_pioneer_premier_ts_c720prs/

If your thoughts on these speakers don't match the author of that article, your install needs more work. If you are running off the stock headunit, I'd rec. getting a Pioneer DEH-P880PRS.

As far as sub, I did some research on the IDQ10 like you recommened and I'm going to go with that. The guy installing the system said I need the dual 2 ohm version since he'll bridge channels 3 & 4 (Alpine advertises 300 watts from 3/4).

The box you recommeded:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Toyota-Tacoma-Extended-Cab-05-07-Lg-Console-Sub-Box_W0QQitemZ220073197273QQihZ012QQcategoryZ50565Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This has .75 cu ft of air space but ID (I called them) said it would be too big and that .50 to .60 cu ft is best for the IDQ10. I then called the box maker and he said I could just put some wood or styrofoam pieces in the box and secure them with double-sided tape and that should cut the air space down to the desired level.

Is that a viable option to cut air space and make that sub shine?--

I hope that some extra wood secured in the box will be fine cause I really like the box but will not sacrifice sub performance for it.

Thanks for the help!

There are better options now than the IDQ, but they are a nice SQ sub. If you like the IDQ, the ARC 10D4(or 10D2 depending on your ohm load) is a better version of the IDQ.

To fill up air space, I'd use wood blocks and wood glue.

See less See more

Save

Pb

· #3 · Jan 25, 2007

Yeah, the wrong EQ and X-over settings can make or break your sound system, no matter how much the speakers cost.

Save

R6Rocket718

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 25, 2007

cam2Xrunner said:
This is the sign of a good set of speakers. If you're using a bad recording, you're gonna hear it. If you're using a Sheffield or Telarc recording, you will know why you spent the money on a good pair of speakers

I never thought of it that way. I'm not sure what a Sheffield or Telarc recording is but I get what you're saying.

I look into the ARC 10, also.

Thanks for the help, guys!

Save

big dumps

· #5 · Jan 25, 2007

with that box can you open the rear storage areas still?

Save

R6Rocket718

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jan 25, 2007

big dumps said:
with that box can you open the rear storage areas still?

No you cannot. I'm going to have to move it to one side or the other in order to get into the underseat storage but I like how the box integrates with the interior and also allows people to sit on both seats.

Save

1 - 6 of 6 Posts

This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.

Top Contributors this Month