Kinda pissed off right now!

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NorCalTacoma

Discussion Starter · Dec 19, 2005

This whole weekend it rained. I didn't drive my truck all weekend. Today I since it stopped raining I decided to take out the Alpine aftermarket speakers I installed in my truck.

I think the stock speakers sounded better to me. They provide more bass. When I removed my Alpine speakers, I saw a lot of water inside the door. I saw "little puddles" of water inside of the door at the very bottom. I was like WTF!

Then I took a look at my speakers and they were wet as hell. I also looked at the wires they were all wet. I could not believe that much water was in there.

Thank GOD, I decided to take off the Alpines and put back my stock speakers. I am very happy that I switched back.

Is all that water inside the door normal?? I can't believe it.

WTF!!!!!!!!! :cursin:

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lotust

· #2 · Dec 19, 2005

AlpineJLAudio said:
This whole weekend it rained. I didn't drive my truck all weekend. Today I since it stopped raining I decided to take out the Alpine aftermarket speakers I installed in my truck.

I think the stock speakers sounded better to me. They provide more bass. When I removed my Alpine speakers, I saw a lot of water inside the door. I saw "little puddles" of water inside of the door at the very bottom. I was like WTF!

Then I took a look at my speakers and they were wet as hell. I also looked at the wires they were all wet. I could not believe that much water was in there.

Thank GOD, I decided to take off the Alpines and put back my stock speakers. I am very happy that I switched back.

Is all that water inside the door normal?? I can't believe it.

WTF!!!!!!!!! :cursin:

thats not good.

NESW20

· #3 · Dec 19, 2005

take it to the dealership, ASAP. IIRC, there's a TSB out for water in the passenger compartment, but i haven't heard anything about water in the doors.

somewhat similar to your experience, i went to go to the bank a few weeks ago. it was a couple of blocks from my house, and i went to the drive-up teller window. it was fairly cold (around 20F) and had snowed the previous day or two.

i hit my window switch when i got up to the teller, and... NOTHING. the worst part was my friend who was with me who happens to be a huge Ford fan. he gave me a bit of teasing about that, since his windows on his '95 F150 never freeze shut.

after much thawing and scraping, we got them opened, but it was still annoying.

-Mike

Count

· #4 · Dec 19, 2005

Sorry to hear about that, bro. Was there any sign of water in the door when you installed them?

Funny you mention that the stock speakers provide more base than those Alpines. I've been thinking the same about mine. I have the base turned down to 1 and sometimes even this is almost too much.

Maybe you had some condensation built up inside the Alpines when you installed them. Where did you store them before installing them in your truck?

Hope you get this figured out.

boone

· #5 · Dec 19, 2005

Maybe the bottom part of your windows didn't seal back up tight enough when you put the door panels back on. Was it like that in all of the doors? Did you have the windows up or down when you put the door panels back on?

NorCalTacoma

Discussion Starter · #6 · Dec 19, 2005

When I installed the speakers the weather was sunny and the speakers were right out of the box. I installed them as soon as they arrived. They were as dry as can be. Keep your stock speakers Count. They are not bad for the average listener. I am pissed that I ever took apart my doors and stuff. Now my truck is no longer a "virgin" as far as the doors go. HAHAHAH. I hope nothing bad happens to the speakers or the electrical system or even the doors. Rust will kill.

I got extended warranty so if anything happens BAM. I will make Toyota replace everything in the doors.

NorCalTacoma

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 19, 2005

I had the windows up when I took the door panels off and when I put them back on.

Yes, all the doors had water in them.

boone

· #8 · Dec 19, 2005

Hmmm.... that is the only seal that I can see that would have been affected by taking the inner door panels off.

If you push on the lower part of the leaking window from the outside is there any play? Can you create a small gap between the window and the black plastic seal?

In regards to the window being up or down, I was always told to have it up during install and then once you reconnected the power to the window switch put the window down and re-tighten to make sure that the window itself isn't keeping you from securing the panel as tight as it needs to be in order to keep water out.

Silver-Bolt

· #9 · Dec 19, 2005

Do the Toyota doors have drains? Some previous Ford products I have owned had small drain hole on the bottom of the doors. I had one where the hole got plugged and water built up in the door. Once I figured out where the drain was a paper clip opened the hole up and it all drained out. Might have sealer clooging the drain holes?

robsatx

· #10 · Dec 19, 2005

Not sure how the door panels could cause a leak. the rubber door seals are not attached to the door panels according the pictures I have seen.

If all your doors are leaking I would make sure you did not leave your windows down (cracked just a little) or you have some really bad window seals. Did you put deadener in your doors?

Fitz235

· #11 · Dec 19, 2005

Hey Alpine, I don't know about puddles, but I think it's probably normal for some water to get inside the door. If you look at the factory speaker mounts, they actually have a drip shield on them (that piece of curved horizontal plastic on the top back side of the speaker mount). That's the only thing I don't like about the Tacotunes adapters, is that they don't have that. If you do have puddles, It may be like Silver-Bolt said, a drain in the door may be clogged. If you do end up keeping the Tacotunes adapters for whatever reason, you could cut the drip shield off the factory speakers, or make some, and glue them to the Tacotunes adapters, that should at least keep the speakers/connections dry.

Good Luck.

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Rocafella

· #12 · Dec 19, 2005

You should take it to the dealer

lotust

· #13 · Dec 20, 2005

do you have "in channel" rain guards by chance ?

06TRD

· #14 · Dec 20, 2005

I've noticed that when it rains hard it seems that there is a little bit of water on my driver side rubber floormat (and I'm referring to when I haven't been in it to track water in). I've felt the carpet around the mat and it feels dry, but it has got me concerned. It hasn't rained much since I've had it, so it has only been a couple of times, but if I keep noticing it it's going back to the dealership.

robsatx

· #15 · Dec 20, 2005

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lotust said:
do you have "in channel" rain guards by chance ?

Dont see any in his car domain pix . . .

I am freaking out that you had that much water. My cars stay in the garage(s) . . but I have been in a couple of crazy storms recently. I then swapped my polk momos for Diamond audios in the front and did not see any water. I know moisture can get in there, thus the reason for using plastic speaker mounts ( tacotunes.com) over mdf that will be exposed to the high moisture in the doors.

I would take that bad boy in quick.

TRD Hunter

· #16 · Dec 20, 2005

holy $h!t, tthats Crazy!! might wanna get that checked out.......

NorCalTacoma

Discussion Starter · #17 · Dec 20, 2005

Sorry Guys.

I was out all day.

Anyways this weekend over here my truck stayed outside in the rain. It was the hardest rain we have seen all year. I made sure that all the windows were rolled up tight and I even pressed the window lock button so that I wouldn't accidently open one.

I also checked every door panel about 10 times. I pushed the panels in. I made sure there were no gaps. Every clip was in place and firm. I double checked the window seals around the windows everything was good.

There was no way the door panels can go on any tighter. There was no more room.

Literally my brand new speakers were dripping with water. The wire harness have a little spongelike material around them. For those who have changed their speakers you guys know what I am talking about. I am not kidding I squeezed that little spongelike material and water dripped out. I could not believe it. I was so pissed. I just don't get how taking off the door panel would be the problem. It is definately coming from the outside becuase there was no water on the window from the inside of the truck.

The factory speakers DO have that little shield to protect it from the water. The factory speakers also have the CONNECTORS on the outside of the door panel as well. Not behind the speaker, but rather on the side.

I was so pissed. When I looked into the door at the very bottom I saw red all along the bottom of the door. I was like WTF it's rusted already. Fortunately it was just this weird goo-like red substance. It was from the factory probably to prevent rust or something at the bottom of the doors.

I want to take the truck to the dealer but what can I say? "Uh I took of the door panels and I saw a lot of water in there. They will probably say I caused it becuase I took of the door panel.

The doors seem like they are poorly protected from water. There is no way that removing the door panel would cause this.

I hope nobody has their crossovers mounted in their doors.

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cam2Xrunner

· #18 · Dec 20, 2005

That's weird that it got that wet. Mine have never gotten wet.

You can take the old speakers water shield and re-use it. You'll have to take it apart and then screw it to the back.

NorCalTacoma

Discussion Starter · #19 · Dec 20, 2005

I don't get how it got so wet.

Is there a special way to put the door panels back on?

I did it all correctly and everything is snug, nothing is loose and there are no rattles.

I used a microfiber towel to dry the inside of the door.

gnits

· #20 · Dec 20, 2005

The interior door space is not suppose to be water tight. Excessive water is designed to pass through and exit using the drain holes at the base of the door. That's the reason doors have that plaster moisture barrier behind the panel.

I would make a solid drip barrier since anything flimsy would resonate or flap. Or get a premade speaker baffle and cut it to fit the application.

Unless the window alignment or seal is off, it would not be a dealer warranty issue.

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