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Thinking of going LED on headlights but don't want to give up DRL's. Saw somewhere Toyota uses PWM (pulse width modulation) to take the high beams to half bright (6V). True? If so is there a way to shut off the high beam DRL's and instead have the fogs come on as DRL's? I don't want to give up "auto" and I don't want to NOT have some kind of DRL. I did find a bulb type that indicates they're compatible with DRL systems but not if they're pulsed. Going to post this on the Gen 1 side as I have both my 2011 and a 2001
 

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I disabled the drls on my 11 limited and I modified my fog light circuit so they are able to be on at any time I want. I use the fogs for my drl and love it.
 

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There have been discussions on the Gen3 forum about using LED in the projector-based low-beam lens regarding bad light spread and/or intensity. I imagine that will be the same for the Gen2. I have HID in the low beam and LED w/DRL driver for the high beam, both from XD, which has lost much fanfare recently due to (1) defective products and (2) lack of support since TRS took over. I liked them when they were based in Canada, but now they're based in Atlanta, and doesn't offer the same experience as before. Regardless, I have had no issues with both kits using the stock headlight assembly. The auto feature is maintained and functional.

Here is the Gen3 informative post regarding using LED and the poster indicated the problem with XD's kit, but it shouldn't be limited just to them, any LED manufacturer with similar gap will have the same issue. An underlying problem has been that XD was promoting their products quite heavily in the past on the forums and people bought into and recommending it, myself included. Anyway, in my experience, the HID bulb is physically similar to the halogen bulb, so they work well in the stock assembly, even has the nice cut-off without blinding coming traffic. It may not have the wider beam spread compared to a Morimoto projector, but it's a much appreciated upgrade over the halogen in terms of brightness.

For your Gen1, I recommend not using any LED (or HID) for the low beam since it's a reflector lens. I currently have a LED setup in my Gen3 RAV4 with reflector lens, while brightness is very nice, but the spread is bad and will blind oncoming or front traffic. I'm planning to retrofit a proper projector/HID kit in there instead.
 

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Here is the thread where I explain how to use fog lights as drl. It's on page 2.

 

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I tried following that thread BTW and honestly it made no sense
It's pretty simple really. I pulled the fog light relay. I then made wires to run from the 2 copper blades in the relay to the slots that the relay plugs into. I then found a power source in the fuse block that only gets power when the key is in the run position. Doing that keeps the fog lights from coming on if you're using the accessory mode to listen to the radio. The last relay blade gets a wire from that blade to the wire at the steering column that is connected to the fog light switch. Doing that allows you to turn the fog lights on and off. I then taped the relay and wires up and tucked them away. In that thread I posted a pick of the relay and described which blade did what.
 

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It's pretty simple really. I pulled the fog light relay. I then made wires to run from the 2 copper blades in the relay to the slots that the relay plugs into. I then found a power source in the fuse block that only gets power when the key is in the run position. Doing that keeps the fog lights from coming on if you're using the accessory mode to listen to the radio. The last relay blade gets a wire from that blade to the wire at the steering column that is connected to the fog light switch. Doing that allows you to turn the fog lights on and off. I then taped the relay and wires up and tucked them away. In that thread I posted a pick of the relay and described which blade did what.
I did something like that with my old Infiniti QX4. It worked great. But, if I switch to LED it means I would need to disable the DRL and have the Fogs do that job. Since my understanding is the DRL uses pulsed 12v to give an effective 6V to the high beams. With an incandescent lamp not an issue but an LED will blink rapidly. I saw one wire harness that can be used but it leaves high beams on full bright for DRL and I don't want to be the a$$hole who is blinding oncoming traffic all day. It is also illegal.
I guess I can get out there with an analogue DVM and double check but I understand it's pretty common on Toyota products.
 

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I disabled my drls using techstream so that's an option for you. There may also be a relay that you can pull to disable the drls.
 

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Morimoto 2Stroke w/DRL decoders..... PWM compatible

Look up website brisource.com for more info.

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"DRL Compatible! These are some of the only LED bulbs available that double as a headlight and DRL (they are PWM compatible, not low/6v). Be sure to add the optional DRL Anti-Flicker Module for best functionality."
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I considered this but ended up ordering Katana H11 and Nineo 9005, will be installing them on my 2013 Highlander this weekend. Nineo 9005 wont support DRL, so will just switch that off and run the Low beam day and night...
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Yeah I don't want to run lows day and night because the radio LEDs are already so dim even at full brightness it's difficult to operate it. Re, the anti flicker module it makes what had been the DRL run at high beam brightness which is illegal (ask me how I know :D) Perhaps I will simply leave the high beams incandescent and switch out the low beams to LED and the fogs as well. The high beams are more than bright enough when needed anyway
 

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Morimoto 2Stroke w/DRL decoders..... PWM compatible

Look up website brisource.com for more info.

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"DRL Compatible! These are some of the only LED bulbs available that double as a headlight and DRL (they are PWM compatible, not low/6v). Be sure to add the optional DRL Anti-Flicker Module for best functionality."
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I considered this but ended up ordering Katana H11 and Nineo 9005, will be installing them on my 2013 Highlander this weekend. Nineo 9005 wont support DRL, so will just switch that off and run the Low beam day and night...
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i have 2013 highlander also. what did you end up doing with the light replacements?
 

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