Hi Katekebo, what do you mean that is not designed and built like a ''real'' premium ? I know that they are on the same platform (K platform). It is not the same for all manufacturer ? Acura have the same platform as Honda ? And Infiniti have the same as Nissan ?Lexus is just a pimped out Toyota. It's not designed and built like real premium / luxury cars that are designed from the ground-up as a premium product. "You can put lipstick on a pig ..."
You won't get a rational response. He has a bone to pick with Toyota.Hi Katekebo, what do you mean that is not designed and built like a ''real'' premium ? I know that they are on the same platform (K platform). It is not the same for all manufacturer ? Acura have the same platform as Honda ? And Infiniti have the same as Nissan ?
The dealer say that he can't find the water leak after having the car and searching for 2 weeks, that's make me wonder if they are any competent with water leaks, they spray some water with a hose over it and call it a day.So the dealer was give me the car back. They do some test a quick cleanup, and they say that they don't find any leaks ... common.
Currently, the dealer offer me to buy the car back, so I'm stuck with them since they are aware of the leaking problem and they won't sue me. I don't want to sell the car to anyone else and risk being sued for a hidden problem. And quite frankly, I think nobody will ever want buy a car with water leak. If the dealer sell it after that to someone else, it surely won't be my fault, and legally I will be clear.Why even stay with a Toyota Product?
And hopefully at no cost to you! And hopefully the new one will not have problems! Best wishes!
I heard a rumor. In the 1990's Toyota was trying to figure out how another car company (I'll leave unnamed, since it is just a rumor) could build and sell a car so cheaply. So they bought one and dismantled it. Turns out this other company used 1/3 less parts. Lets see, bolt, nut, lock washer. Which is the easiest part to leave out?
Edit: I do think that Toyota, and other companies, still follow the concept of
Kaizen (English: Continuous improvement). So likely your 2023 will be better than your 2020
Hi thank for your input. They are indeed good way to find a water leaks, but i think dealer doesn't really care about finding the problem (at least the two dealer i visit), they prefer to put the fault on consumer instead of admit a manufacturing problem. After two years of water intrusion i decided to trade the Highlaner for another one, because i live in Canada and here, its a lot of salt water that was entering the vehicle, so i didn't want to deal with long term problem caused by the water intrusion.Just a FYI there are creative ways to find a water leak, and trust me water leaks are the worst thing to get on a service order
Once you eliminate the sunroof drains, and look at all the seals, the easiest way is to either use a smoke machine and pressurize the crap out of the car to force the smoke out, or in the bad old days we would open a tank of freon ( no oil, just gas, when it was cheap) in the car, close it up, and use the freon sniffer to find the leak.
the third way is to pop an ozone generator in the car and let it run, then use an Ozone sniffer to hunt for the leak.