May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:44:08 -0800, slakka wrote:

>
> May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??
>
>
> Dear newsgroup,
> I wonder if I may ask you, who in your opinion is the most
> knowledgeable person for me to ask about a Toyota transmission, 1991
> Camry please? I gotta wee bit of a problem (actually me mum). Any
> thoughts you may share with me would be very appreciated and thanks in
> advance!
>
> Most Gratefully, big ed
>
>
> PS Please don't respond to email above. Its unopenable.

Ray is the best, but none of us will have any idea whatsoever if you don't
ask!!!

On 9 Nov 2006 13:44:08 -0800, "slakka" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??
>
>
>Dear newsgroup,
> I wonder if I may ask you, who in your opinion is the most
>knowledgeable person for me to ask about a Toyota transmission, 1991
>Camry please? I gotta wee bit of a problem (actually me mum). Any
>thoughts you may share with me would be very appreciated and thanks in
>advance!

Ask the question. You'll get answers.
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OK here goes. I got a 91 camry auto trans. It seems like occasionally
when shifting from neutral to reverse its gives like a violent CLUNK.
Other times it shifts very smoothly. I was told its not the motor
mounts so im thinking tranny. Any ideas, and who is Ray?

e

Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> On 9 Nov 2006 13:44:08 -0800, "slakka" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??
> >
> >
> >Dear newsgroup,
> > I wonder if I may ask you, who in your opinion is the most
> >knowledgeable person for me to ask about a Toyota transmission, 1991
> >Camry please? I gotta wee bit of a problem (actually me mum). Any
> >thoughts you may share with me would be very appreciated and thanks in
> >advance!
>
> Ask the question. You'll get answers.
> --
> gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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"slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??
>
>
> Dear newsgroup,
> I wonder if I may ask you, who in your opinion is the most
> knowledgeable person for me to ask about a Toyota transmission, 1991
> Camry please? I gotta wee bit of a problem (actually me mum). Any
> thoughts you may share with me would be very appreciated and thanks in
> advance!
>
> Most Gratefully, big ed
>
>
> PS Please don't respond to email above. Its unopenable.
>

When you ask your question, please include some background information,
like:
Mileage on the car and transmission (if the transmission is not original)
Transmission service and repair history
Transmission type, e.g. automatic or manual
If the transmission is acting up, what is happening, what vehicle speeds,
what engine RPM, how long the car has been driven when it acts up, what gear
(if you know what gear), whether the brakes are applied, whether the "OD
off" light on the instrument panel is flashing
Condition of transmission fluid, e.g. red and translucent, brown and burnt
smelling, black and burnt smelling, last time the transmission fluid was
changed and what type of facility did the service
Whether anyone who drives the car brakes with their left foot
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Sir thank you for your swift response. i may have to re post next week
as im away from the car at the moment and unable to go over particulars
u requested. iow car in question is at me mums Please bear?
ed

When you ask your question, please include some background information,

like:
Mileage on the car and transmission (if the transmission is not
original)
Transmission service and repair history
Transmission type, e.g. automatic or manual
If the transmission is acting up, what is happening, what vehicle
speeds,
what engine RPM, how long the car has been driven when it acts up, what
gear
(if you know what gear), whether the brakes are applied, whether the
"OD
off" light on the instrument panel is flashing
Condition of transmission fluid, e.g. red and translucent, brown and
burnt
smelling, black and burnt smelling, last time the transmission fluid
was
changed and what type of facility did the service
Whether anyone who drives the car brakes with their left foot

Ray O wrote:
> "slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??
> >
> >
> > Dear newsgroup,
> > I wonder if I may ask you, who in your opinion is the most
> > knowledgeable person for me to ask about a Toyota transmission, 1991
> > Camry please? I gotta wee bit of a problem (actually me mum). Any
> > thoughts you may share with me would be very appreciated and thanks in
> > advance!
> >
> > Most Gratefully, big ed
> >
> >
> > PS Please don't respond to email above. Its unopenable.
> >
>
> When you ask your question, please include some background information,
> like:
> Mileage on the car and transmission (if the transmission is not original)
> Transmission service and repair history
> Transmission type, e.g. automatic or manual
> If the transmission is acting up, what is happening, what vehicle speeds,
> what engine RPM, how long the car has been driven when it acts up, what gear
> (if you know what gear), whether the brakes are applied, whether the "OD
> off" light on the instrument panel is flashing
> Condition of transmission fluid, e.g. red and translucent, brown and burnt
> smelling, black and burnt smelling, last time the transmission fluid was
> changed and what type of facility did the service
> Whether anyone who drives the car brakes with their left foot
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)

"slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Sir thank you for your swift response. i may have to re post next week
> as im away from the car at the moment and unable to go over particulars
> u requested. iow car in question is at me mums Please bear?
> ed
>

You are welcome! Is mum having a problem with the car?
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


> When you ask your question, please include some background information,
>
> like:
> Mileage on the car and transmission (if the transmission is not
> original)
> Transmission service and repair history
> Transmission type, e.g. automatic or manual
> If the transmission is acting up, what is happening, what vehicle
> speeds,
> what engine RPM, how long the car has been driven when it acts up, what
> gear
> (if you know what gear), whether the brakes are applied, whether the
> "OD
> off" light on the instrument panel is flashing
> Condition of transmission fluid, e.g. red and translucent, brown and
> burnt
> smelling, black and burnt smelling, last time the transmission fluid
> was
> changed and what type of facility did the service
> Whether anyone who drives the car brakes with their left foot
>
> Ray O wrote:
>> "slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> >
>> > May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear newsgroup,
>> > I wonder if I may ask you, who in your opinion is the most
>> > knowledgeable person for me to ask about a Toyota transmission, 1991
>> > Camry please? I gotta wee bit of a problem (actually me mum). Any
>> > thoughts you may share with me would be very appreciated and thanks in
>> > advance!
>> >
>> > Most Gratefully, big ed
>> >
>> >
>> > PS Please don't respond to email above. Its unopenable.
>> >
>>
>> When you ask your question, please include some background information,
>> like:
>> Mileage on the car and transmission (if the transmission is not original)
>> Transmission service and repair history
>> Transmission type, e.g. automatic or manual
>> If the transmission is acting up, what is happening, what vehicle speeds,
>> what engine RPM, how long the car has been driven when it acts up, what
>> gear
>> (if you know what gear), whether the brakes are applied, whether the "OD
>> off" light on the instrument panel is flashing
>> Condition of transmission fluid, e.g. red and translucent, brown and
>> burnt
>> smelling, black and burnt smelling, last time the transmission fluid was
>> changed and what type of facility did the service
>> Whether anyone who drives the car brakes with their left foot
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:41:37 -0800, slakka wrote:

> OK here goes. I got a 91 camry auto trans. It seems like occasionally
> when shifting from neutral to reverse its gives like a violent CLUNK.
> Other times it shifts very smoothly. I was told its not the motor
> mounts so im thinking tranny. Any ideas, and who is Ray?

Ray is our current actual bona-fide Toyota guy. He was a Factory Rep for
a few years, and knows a lot about Toys. Not only that, he is a really
good guy, as you saw from your rapid response!

In addition to the motor mounts, it could also be one or both axles, which
I may be inclined to believe even more than motor/tranny mounts. There are
ways to check both. With the engine running, the Parking brake ON and a
FIRM foot on the brake, open the hood and have someone shift the car from
neutral to drive and then to reverse. Stand aside the car (not in front!)
and watch the engine. If it moves more than an inch or so, or jumps, it's
a motor mount. If the tranny moves, check the tranny mounts.

Do you hear any kind of rubbing or grinding taking corners? Or a clicking?
This would indicate CV joints, about the same as Universal joints on a RWD
car. You can lift the car with a jack and grab the wheel and try to turn
it with the tranny in park. If you feel a 'notch' or hear a clunk, chances
are it's the CV joint.

My Supra does this same thing, esp when cold, but I KNOW the universals
are shot from having an AT that doesn't shift by itself. I learned how to
shift it nice and smooth, the girl before me didn't!



>
> e
>
> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>> On 9 Nov 2006 13:44:08 -0800, "slakka" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??
>> >
>> >
>> >Dear newsgroup,
>> > I wonder if I may ask you, who in your opinion is the most
>> >knowledgeable person for me to ask about a Toyota transmission, 1991
>> >Camry please? I gotta wee bit of a problem (actually me mum). Any
>> >thoughts you may share with me would be very appreciated and thanks in
>> >advance!
>>
>> Ask the question. You'll get answers. --
>> gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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No expert here, but something you might check. '91 Camrys had various
automatics depending on if they were 4 cyl or V6, and depending on the trim
level, for example, then top of the line LE had electronically controlled.

There is a throttle pressure cable that goes from the throttle body down to
the trans. If this is adjusted improperly, or if the throttle is not
closing all the way, it can cause very harsh engagement. To check the
adjustment, open the throttle all the way and look for a round bead on the
transmission cable where it disappears into a rubber sheath near the
throttle body end. The ball should be half in and half out of the rubber
sleeve at wide open throttle, if it is, do not adjust it. Check for why the
throttle may not be closing all the way, for example, gummy build up on it's
back side.

Lee Richardson
Mech-Tech

"slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> May I ask a Toyota transmission question please??
>
>
> Dear newsgroup,
> I wonder if I may ask you, who in your opinion is the most
> knowledgeable person for me to ask about a Toyota transmission, 1991
> Camry please? I gotta wee bit of a problem (actually me mum). Any
> thoughts you may share with me would be very appreciated and thanks in
> advance!
>
> Most Gratefully, big ed
>
>
> PS Please don't respond to email above. Its unopenable.
>

"slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> If there is no other work done recently or damage you know of to the
>> engine mounts, then check the fluid level and the condition of the auto
>> trans fluid first. This is the first step when you encounter problems
>> with the tranny.
>
> Should I drain the tyranny fluid and if so, exactly where is the drain
> bolt on this model?
> 91 Camry/4 cylinder/auto trans with overdrive.
>
> ed
>

If the automatic transmission fluid is not red and translucent or you do not
know the last time it has been changed, then you should change the ATF. The
drain bolt is in the bottom of the transmission fluid pan.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O wrote:
> "slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >> If there is no other work done recently or damage you know of to the
> >> engine mounts, then check the fluid level and the condition of the auto
> >> trans fluid first. This is the first step when you encounter problems
> >> with the tranny.
> >
> > Should I drain the tyranny fluid and if so, exactly where is the drain
> > bolt on this model?
> > 91 Camry/4 cylinder/auto trans with overdrive.
> >
> > ed
> >
>
> If the automatic transmission fluid is not red and translucent or you do not
> know the last time it has been changed, then you should change the ATF. The
> drain bolt is in the bottom of the transmission fluid pan.

ATF=Auto Transmission Fluid right?

Also is there a brand or viscosity preference?

She's got over 140 thousand miles.

ed

"slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Ray O wrote:
>> "slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> >
>> > [email protected] wrote:
>> >> If there is no other work done recently or damage you know of to the
>> >> engine mounts, then check the fluid level and the condition of the
>> >> auto
>> >> trans fluid first. This is the first step when you encounter problems
>> >> with the tranny.
>> >
>> > Should I drain the tyranny fluid and if so, exactly where is the drain
>> > bolt on this model?
>> > 91 Camry/4 cylinder/auto trans with overdrive.
>> >
>> > ed
>> >
>>
>> If the automatic transmission fluid is not red and translucent or you do
>> not
>> know the last time it has been changed, then you should change the ATF.
>> The
>> drain bolt is in the bottom of the transmission fluid pan.
>
> ATF=Auto Transmission Fluid right?

Sorry, yes, ATF = automatic transmissionn fluid.

> Also is there a brand or viscosity preference?

I do not have a particular brand preference, other than sticking to a name
brand.

ATF is not packaged and classified by viscosity. ATF has a specific type,
for example, your transmission probabaly uses Dexron III - check the
dipstick for the correct ATF type.

>
> She's got over 140 thousand miles.
>
> ed
>

If the ATF is original, I would not have the transmission fluid flushed. I
would just drain and refill the ATF.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

> If the ATF is original, I would not have the transmission fluid flushed.
> I would just drain and refill the ATF.

Hi Ray,

I've heard other people offer up this same advice regarding automatic
transmissions with over 100,000 miles on them that contain the original ATF.
However, it's been a while since I was given the mechanical reasoning/logic
behind this advice. Can you provide myself and the rest of the group with
the reasoning behind this suggestion? I do remember something to the effect
that a flush at this point could cause internal component damage to some of
the transmission's moving components. But again, I just can't remember
exactly why.

Thanks in advance!

Ron M.

"Ron M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>> If the ATF is original, I would not have the transmission fluid flushed.
>> I would just drain and refill the ATF.
>
> Hi Ray,
>
> I've heard other people offer up this same advice regarding automatic
> transmissions with over 100,000 miles on them that contain the original
> ATF. However, it's been a while since I was given the mechanical
> reasoning/logic behind this advice. Can you provide myself and the rest of
> the group with the reasoning behind this suggestion? I do remember
> something to the effect that a flush at this point could cause internal
> component damage to some of the transmission's moving components. But
> again, I just can't remember exactly why.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Ron M.

An automatic transmission has internal clutches and bands that are immersed
in the automatic transmission fluid (ATF). As the friction material on the
clutches wear, it is carried by the ATF and tends to settle in tight
passages and at the bottom of the transmission fluid pan as a sludge-like
goo. A power flush could dislodge the goo from where it has settled and get
it stuck in a tight orifice and cause shifting problems. If the
transmission has been flushed routinely, then the goo doesn't have a chance
to accumulate, but if there is a chance that there is a goo accumulation, a
simple drain and refill is a safer course of action.

If you look at the owner's manual, the automaker doesn't even list a
transmission flush in the recommended maintenance interval, just a drain and
refill.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Oh and Ray,

The interior light, dash light and electric windows on the right side
have conked out. Any advise sir? Thanks in advance and a very happy
holiday to you!

ed
Ray O wrote:
> "Ron M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >> If the ATF is original, I would not have the transmission fluid flushed.
> >> I would just drain and refill the ATF.
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >
> > I've heard other people offer up this same advice regarding automatic
> > transmissions with over 100,000 miles on them that contain the original
> > ATF. However, it's been a while since I was given the mechanical
> > reasoning/logic behind this advice. Can you provide myself and the rest of
> > the group with the reasoning behind this suggestion? I do remember
> > something to the effect that a flush at this point could cause internal
> > component damage to some of the transmission's moving components. But
> > again, I just can't remember exactly why.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Ron M.
>
> An automatic transmission has internal clutches and bands that are immersed
> in the automatic transmission fluid (ATF). As the friction material on the
> clutches wear, it is carried by the ATF and tends to settle in tight
> passages and at the bottom of the transmission fluid pan as a sludge-like
> goo. A power flush could dislodge the goo from where it has settled and get
> it stuck in a tight orifice and cause shifting problems. If the
> transmission has been flushed routinely, then the goo doesn't have a chance
> to accumulate, but if there is a chance that there is a goo accumulation, a
> simple drain and refill is a safer course of action.
>
> If you look at the owner's manual, the automaker doesn't even list a
> transmission flush in the recommended maintenance interval, just a drain and
> refill.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)

"slakka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Oh and Ray,
>
> The interior light, dash light and electric windows on the right side
> have conked out. Any advise sir? Thanks in advance and a very happy
> holiday to you!
>
> ed

Check the wires snaking from the door frame thorugh the door for damage,
check the dome fuse, make sure the switch the rubber boot at the lower
corner for the door frame pops out when the door is opened. If the switch
is stuck, carefully peel back the rubber boot and spray with WD-40.

A happy holiday to you too!

--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

> Ray O wrote:
>> "Ron M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> >> If the ATF is original, I would not have the transmission fluid
>> >> flushed.
>> >> I would just drain and refill the ATF.
>> >
>> > Hi Ray,
>> >
>> > I've heard other people offer up this same advice regarding automatic
>> > transmissions with over 100,000 miles on them that contain the original
>> > ATF. However, it's been a while since I was given the mechanical
>> > reasoning/logic behind this advice. Can you provide myself and the rest
>> > of
>> > the group with the reasoning behind this suggestion? I do remember
>> > something to the effect that a flush at this point could cause internal
>> > component damage to some of the transmission's moving components. But
>> > again, I just can't remember exactly why.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> > Ron M.
>>
>> An automatic transmission has internal clutches and bands that are
>> immersed
>> in the automatic transmission fluid (ATF). As the friction material on
>> the
>> clutches wear, it is carried by the ATF and tends to settle in tight
>> passages and at the bottom of the transmission fluid pan as a sludge-like
>> goo. A power flush could dislodge the goo from where it has settled and
>> get
>> it stuck in a tight orifice and cause shifting problems. If the
>> transmission has been flushed routinely, then the goo doesn't have a
>> chance
>> to accumulate, but if there is a chance that there is a goo accumulation,
>> a
>> simple drain and refill is a safer course of action.
>>
>> If you look at the owner's manual, the automaker doesn't even list a
>> transmission flush in the recommended maintenance interval, just a drain
>> and
>> refill.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Ron M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>> If the ATF is original, I would not have the transmission fluid flushed.
>>> I would just drain and refill the ATF.
>>
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>> I've heard other people offer up this same advice regarding automatic
>> transmissions with over 100,000 miles on them that contain the original
>> ATF. However, it's been a while since I was given the mechanical
>> reasoning/logic behind this advice. Can you provide myself and the rest
>> of the group with the reasoning behind this suggestion? I do remember
>> something to the effect that a flush at this point could cause internal
>> component damage to some of the transmission's moving components. But
>> again, I just can't remember exactly why.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Ron M.
>
> An automatic transmission has internal clutches and bands that are
> immersed in the automatic transmission fluid (ATF). As the friction
> material on the clutches wear, it is carried by the ATF and tends to
> settle in tight passages and at the bottom of the transmission fluid pan
> as a sludge-like goo. A power flush could dislodge the goo from where it
> has settled and get it stuck in a tight orifice and cause shifting
> problems. If the transmission has been flushed routinely, then the goo
> doesn't have a chance to accumulate, but if there is a chance that there
> is a goo accumulation, a simple drain and refill is a safer course of
> action.
>
> If you look at the owner's manual, the automaker doesn't even list a
> transmission flush in the recommended maintenance interval, just a drain
> and refill.

Thanks for the detailed explanation Ray O. After I read your response, it
came back to me what the other guy had stated during a conversation that I
had with him a while back. It makes sense. I think the best bet for owners
of vehicles with automatic transmissions is to change the ATF every 30,000
miles max.

"Ron M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "Ron M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>>> If the ATF is original, I would not have the transmission fluid
>>>> flushed. I would just drain and refill the ATF.
>>>
>>> Hi Ray,
>>>
>>> I've heard other people offer up this same advice regarding automatic
>>> transmissions with over 100,000 miles on them that contain the original
>>> ATF. However, it's been a while since I was given the mechanical
>>> reasoning/logic behind this advice. Can you provide myself and the rest
>>> of the group with the reasoning behind this suggestion? I do remember
>>> something to the effect that a flush at this point could cause internal
>>> component damage to some of the transmission's moving components. But
>>> again, I just can't remember exactly why.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Ron M.
>>
>> An automatic transmission has internal clutches and bands that are
>> immersed in the automatic transmission fluid (ATF). As the friction
>> material on the clutches wear, it is carried by the ATF and tends to
>> settle in tight passages and at the bottom of the transmission fluid pan
>> as a sludge-like goo. A power flush could dislodge the goo from where it
>> has settled and get it stuck in a tight orifice and cause shifting
>> problems. If the transmission has been flushed routinely, then the goo
>> doesn't have a chance to accumulate, but if there is a chance that there
>> is a goo accumulation, a simple drain and refill is a safer course of
>> action.
>>
>> If you look at the owner's manual, the automaker doesn't even list a
>> transmission flush in the recommended maintenance interval, just a drain
>> and refill.
>
> Thanks for the detailed explanation Ray O. After I read your response, it
> came back to me what the other guy had stated during a conversation that I
> had with him a while back. It makes sense. I think the best bet for owners
> of vehicles with automatic transmissions is to change the ATF every 30,000
> miles max.

You're welcome!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)