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that's pretty hardcore...

I was going to ask the same thing...what car is it for? and what are the plans?
 

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you shoulda made it out of CF

you still can, for the plenum at least ... if you machine a male mold ... or at least fiberglass if you dont wanna deal with CF :D
 

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that's pretty hardcore...

I was going to ask the same thing...what car is it for? and what are the plans?
The plans are:
As the truck is sitting right now, it weights just a bit less than 2150 lbs. with a full tank of gas.
I'm working on reducing some more weight (sub 2000 would be awesome).

Power wise, last time I dyno it, it only made 137 hp and 155 ft/tq.....after all the engine is rebuilt, it's gonna make somewhere in the 300 hp neightboor (300-320 N/A, with high compression pistons)....and hoping to make 220-230 ft/tq.

As far as where this project is going......to the track !!! (a roll cage is also in process)....SCCA, NASA.....and maybe even some time attack.
Gotta go by the rules/ book.......the truck is FAR from being aerodynamic.....lol, but it's a unique project, and one-of-a-kind.....so I'm excited.
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you shoulda made it out of CF

you still can, for the plenum at least ... if you machine a male mold ... or at least fiberglass if you dont wanna deal with CF :D
Actually I'd love C/F....lol (who doesn't.....?)....anyway, I'm already working with C/F every now and then....
I already made simple molds, pieces and so forth. A plenum would be a real challenge for me.....so, I honestly don't know if I'm up to the task....
But I agree, C/F would be sick ! I've seen some Honda Civic with a C/F plenum/ runners......:boink:
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if you just machine solid stock aluminum in the shape of the plenum, then you can glass over it ... would only be one extra step :D

just leave one side open so you can remove the aluminum and it will be a CF plenum!
 

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if you just machine solid stock aluminum in the shape of the plenum, then you can glass over it ... would only be one extra step :D

just leave one side open so you can remove the aluminum and it will be a CF plenum!
Thanks for the tips...
My new manifold should weight around 10 lbs when done. C/F manifold maybe would weight....5-7 lbs. The weight loss is negligible. I'm not saying it can't be done (I've seen it plenty of times). It's very expensive, time consuming, and it requires skills....and I lack the last one....lol. But if you know what you're talking about....be my guest and make one for me....lol
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i wasnt sayin for weight loss, just for the looks ... but it is a tad expensive (although with the price of solid stock lately, idk if its a huge difference)

if i had the time and money to make you one, id make one for myself :lol:

keep us updated :thumbup:
 

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^wowzers. suscribed. sub-2000 lbs and 300 hp... sounds sweet.
You could compare it to this: (power to weight ratio).



Handling is a whole different story though. I will have to ditch the stupid POS leaf-springs/ shocks and go full coilovers.
The final project should look something like this: (Reg. Cab though).









(minus the RB26...lol)
 

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i wasnt sayin for weight loss, just for the looks ... but it is a tad expensive (although with the price of solid stock lately, idk if its a huge difference)

if i had the time and money to make you one, id make one for myself :lol:

keep us updated :thumbup:
$$$ luckily for me....it's not....
However, I want to do as much as I can on my own, and rely on my friends as little as possible. They're super knowlegeable and super nice.
This is my very first serious built up. (I owned 6 Subaru WRX before, all with minor bolt-on's).
Now it's time to take things on my own and learn as much as I can in the process.
It would be too easy to just loan the car, and pay my friends to do it, ask them to make it fast, and pick it up when they're done. I want to be involved, I want to do it on my own....but I lack skill (or maybe I should say, not as good as my friends). I don't have an engineering degree....but I'm willing to take it step by step, get as much info's as I can, learn the ropes, and get things done right the first time....(not just with the manifold, with the whole project).
I'll let you know as I proceed...(pics and so forth).
Alex
 

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$$$ luckily for me....it's not....
However, I want to do as much as I can on my own, and rely on my friends as little as possible. They're super knowlegeable and super nice.
This is my very first serious built up. (I owned 6 Subaru WRX before, all with minor bolt-on's),
Now it's time to take things on my own and learn as much as I can in the process.
It would be too easy to just loan the car, and pay my friends to do it, ask them to make it fast, and pick it up when they're done. I want to be involved, I want to do it on my own....but I lack skill (or maybe I should say, not as good as my friends). I don't have an engineering degree....but I'm willing to take it step by step, get as much info's as I can, learn the ropes, and get things done right the first time....(not just with the manifold, with the whole project)
I'll let you know as I proceed...(pics and so forth).
Alex
That's respectable, getting your hands dirty and getting involved as much as possible :thumbup:

I've always dreamed of building a sick custom Taco, but relocating the engine to the middle (where the bed is), in front of the rear axle to make it a mid-engine racing Taco :naughty: It's been done before (by Rod Millen), which ends up being a 4WD Tacoma (with a shit load of horsepower) attacking the Pikes Peak trail :cool: But then again that race car is no longer really a Tacoma anymore :lol: But I'll keep dreaming though :lol::disappoin


What's you plan on smoothing out the aerodynamics behind the cab? Something like a hard tonneau cover for the bed at least?
 

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Now I have the radiator up front (like 99.9% of the cars on the street today)....maybe I will relocate it in the back (helping even further the horrible 60/40 weight distribution of the truck....I don't know yet.
As far as a tonneau cover....C/F ?.....
There are other concerns right now. other then aerodynamics...like coilovers.
Coilovers on a Tacoma 2WD (like mine) are not a straight swap. I have to re-design the whole chassis with point of attachment and camber plates (pillow mounts)....along fabbing up the roll cage integrated with it (like I showed in the previous pics above)....not easy (at least for me).
Luckily though. The Tacoma, like every other truck, it's not a unibody, with the ladder-frame chassis I could make the whole ''belly'' of the truck smooth (using like an aluminium sheet, or even C/F....).
The exhaust could be tucked in very high, allowing a lot of clearance.
Underneath the bed, where my OEM tank used to sit, I will place a huge rear diffuser (like the JGTC cars in Japan)...helping with downforce, and stability at high speed.
Those are just idea for now....still thinking....
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Now I have the radiator up front (like 99.9% of the cars on the street today)....maybe I will relocate it in the back (helping even further the horrible 60/40 weight distribution of the truck....I don't know yet.
As far as a tonneau cover....C/F ?.....
There are other concerns right now. other then aerodynamics...like coilovers.
Coilovers on a Tacoma 2WD (like mine) are not a straight swap. I have to re-design the whole chassis with point of attachment and camber plates (pillow mounts)....along fabbing up the roll cage integrated with it (like I showed in the previous pics above)....not easy (at least for me).
Luckily though. The Tacoma, like every other truck, it's not a unibody, with the ladder-frame chassis I could make the whole ''belly'' of the truck smooth (using like an aluminium sheet, or even C/F....).
The exhaust could be tucked in very high, allowing a lot of clearance.
Underneath the bed, where my OEM tank used to sit, I will place a huge rear diffuser (like the JGTC cars in Japan)...helping with downforce, and stability at high speed.
Those are just idea for now....still thinking....
Alex
your plans are mind-boggling- even for a typical "tuner" car. coilovers all-around sound sweet, but i can see your problem with the rear. are you going to go the same route with that nissan/dautsun truck you posted for the rear and cut into the bed? with all the mods planned, are you even trying to stay within a specific modification-level category? as far as i can see, you're definitely past street modified/prepared for sure. :lol:

btw, i noticed you're in the bay area. there's a bay area TN meet posted in the regional northern california section (and in the gen5/6 camry section). everyone's invited. it's at fremont automall at saturday, march 22. /plug.
 

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your plans are mind-boggling- even for a typical "tuner" car. coilovers all-around sound sweet, but i can see your problem with the rear. are you going to go the same route with that nissan/dautsun truck you posted for the rear and cut into the bed? with all the mods planned, are you even trying to stay within a specific modification-level category? as far as i can see, you're definitely past street modified/prepared for sure. :lol:

btw, i noticed you're in the bay area. there's a bay area TN meet posted in the regional northern california section (and in the gen5/6 camry section). everyone's invited. it's at fremont automall at saturday, march 22. /plug.
I understand where you come from...
Believe it or not, up until four months ago I used to drive my truck on the street as my DD. (the truck has lexan window on, no airbags, no A/C, no radio, no P/S, no windshield wipers, one bucket seat with 4 point harnesses already, a fuel cell tank, and a standalone to go with it)....not exactly your typical street-legal vehicle I may say....:)

It's funny you mentioned "mind-boggling even for a typical ''tuner car."

I have a little story to tell:
The other day I picked up the latest issue of "Import Tuner", not exactly my cup of tea (actually I think it's garbage)....anyway, I picked it up because there was an article about Jun Auto (a Japanese tuning company)....and the current chump of "Import Tuner'' interviewed the Honcho of Jun (Susumo Koyama)....in the interview Koyama san was generalizing and stereotyping about the average american ''tuner''......saying that too many Americans focus primarly on HP, and loose sight of everything else....not carrying about longevity of the engine, and other important area's of the car.

He kept saying: "for them (Americans) it's more important the price of the item (installed on the car) rather than its quality, and where it was manufactured."
Furthermore he said that because of that, American tuning is far behind. (comparing to the Japanese).

I have to say (with all the respect)....that I agree with Susumo Koyama in what he said, I agree with him....after being here in the States for over 13 years..(and lived in Japan for about 5).....everytime I get into a discussion with someone about cars, HP is definitely up on their list....
That's their philosophy....and I respect that....
But that's not my philosophy....
A car needs balance in EVERY aspect.

How many times I read an article stating: "the car is putting down an healthy 600 hp,....blah blah blah......in order to hook it up, the owner swapped the stock spring with Tein S, or K sport coilovers, or Megan Racing coilovers....."......such and such.....to me that's ridicolous.....it's sad actually; that the owner of the 600 hp car focused primarly and solely on engine upgrade, and maybe he/ she ran out of $$$, and cut corners with cheap knock-off sh!t from China. Rather than do the other way around.

A 600 hp car (for instance)....HAS to have the best suspension possible (Moton, Ohlins, Penske, Sachs and so forth) to handle it's power....Megan Racing won't cut it......I don't understand the mentiality and the point of view of those folks.

With that said. I know my truck (the Tacoma)....it's VERY far from being a race-competitive machine....however, I am doing as much as I can to ''close'' that gap.
My engine will NOT produce humongous HP (only 300-320)....which is nothing to today's standard....but I will make sure the suspension will have the very best components I can afford, (as well as wheels/tires).....along with a solid roll-cage (not over-built) and a functional cockpit, forget about those Defi gauges, and bling-bling sh!t.....function over form.

When I will be done; sure it won't look as sick as an Impreza Sti or an EVO 9.....but I will be happy to say that I build my truck my own way, without opening a catalog and order a bunch of parts (anybody can do that with $$$).
How many people nowadays you hear saying: "oh I built my car".....:disappoin
How hard is it to bold on stuff ? All the car mentioned above have a HUGE aftermarket support. It's too easy to open a catalog and chose what you want and pay; and went it comes in, just bolt it on. And they claim: "yeah....:cool:....I built my car".........wow....:disappoin...impressive.
It's not very far from being a LEGO, is it ?
Alex

oopps, I forgot to answer your question.
As far as ''specific modification-level category"....obviously the truck will only be allowed to run in the unlimited class.....yet still be somewhat stock from the un-trained eye....:)
 

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I understand where you come from...
Believe it or not, up until four months ago I used to drive my truck on the street as my DD. (the truck has lexan window on, no airbags, no A/C, no radio, no P/S, no windshield wipers, one bucket seat with 4 point harnesses already, a fuel cell tank, and a standalone to go with it)....not exactly your typical street-legal vehicle I may say....:)

It's funny you mentioned "mind-boggling even for a typical ''tuner car."

I have a little story to tell:
The other day I picked up the latest issue of "Import Tuner", not exactly my cup of tea (actually I think it's garbage)....anyway, I picked it up because there was an article about Jun Auto (a Japanese tuning company)....and the current chump of "Import Tuner'' interviewed the Honcho of Jun (Susumo Koyama)....in the interview Koyama san was generalizing and stereotyping about the average american ''tuner''......saying that too many Americans focus primarly on HP, and loose sight of everything else....not carrying about longevity of the engine, and other important area's of the car.

He kept saying: "for them (Americans) it's more important the price of the item (installed on the car) rather than its quality, and where it was manufactured."
Furthermore he said that because of that, American tuning is far behind. (comparing to the Japanese).

I have to say (with all the respect)....that I agree with Susumo Koyama in what he said, I agree with him....after being here in the States for over 13 years..(and lived in Japan for about 5).....everytime I get into a discussion with someone about cars, HP is definitely up on their list....
That's their philosophy....and I respect that....
But that's not my philosophy....
A car needs balance in EVERY aspect.


How many times I read an article stating: "the car is putting down an healthy 600 hp,....blah blah blah......in order to hook it up, the owner swapped the stock spring with Tein S, or K sport coilovers, or Megan Racing coilovers....."......such and such.....to me that's ridicolous.....it's sad actually; that the owner of the 600 hp car focused primarly and solely on engine upgrade, and maybe he/ she ran out of $$$, and cut corners with cheap knock-off sh!t from China. Rather than do the other way around.

A 600 hp car (for instance)....HAS to have the best suspension possible (Moton, Ohlins, Penske, Sachs and so forth) to handle it's power....Megan Racing won't cut it......I don't understand the mentiality and the point of view of those folks.

With that said. I know my truck (the Tacoma)....it's VERY far from being a race-competitive machine....however, I am doing as much as I can to ''close'' that gap.
My engine will NOT produce humongous HP (only 300-320)....which is nothing to today's standard....but I will make sure the suspension will have the very best components I can afford, (as well as wheels/tires).....along with a solid roll-cage (not over-built) and a functional cockpit, forget about those Defi gauges, and bling-bling sh!t.....function over form.

When I will be done; sure it won't look as sick as an Impreza Sti or an EVO 9.....but I will be happy to say that I build my truck my own way, without opening a catalog and order a bunch of parts (anybody can do that with $$$).
How many people nowadays you hear saying: "oh I built my car".....:disappoin
How hard is it to bold on stuff ? All the car mentioned above have a HUGE aftermarket support. It's too easy to open a catalog and chose what you want and pay; and went it comes in, just bolt it on. And they claim: "yeah....:cool:....I built my car".........wow....:disappoin...impressive.
It's not very far from being a LEGO, is it ?
Alex

oopps, I forgot to answer your question.
As far as ''specific modification-level category"....obviously the truck will only be allowed to run in the unlimited class.....yet still be somewhat stock from the un-trained eye....:)
I wholeheartedly agree with you on that :thumbup: So you're not alone, although there isn't enough people with that kind of mentality.

And to me, a fully built Taco-racer is pretty much 100x cooler than the run-of-the-mill tuned Evo or WRX on any given day :cool: But that's just my opinion.
 

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Thanks man....
Today, I scooped up an S13 rear end for 400 bucks !!!! I'm super stocked....It's a tad beat it....but I will strip it down, and rebuild it.
It's got a 4.1 Nismo rear gear ratio (I don't know what in condition it is). A super beat up Nismo 1.5 way viscous LSD....and it's missing the rear cables for the E-brake....
First step. Unbolt the rear cross member, sand blasted, weld extra gussets on critical area, and get it powder coated.
Then, http://www.battleversion.com/ for caster/ toe/ camber....
Then down the road a new 2.0 way LSD,
eEventually some solid sub-frame mounts....
And to finish it off some Zeal coilovers.
The problem now is that I am super broke...and all this stuff has to wait....
First I gotta finish the engine.
 
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