ok guys i have a 1989 toyota pickup 4x4. its got the 22re motor in it. well im not sure what the problem is but i just bought it yesterday and it keeps wanting to overheat, and now it wont start at all. it just turns over and doesnt start up. the radiator has fluid in it, and its not leaking out anywhere so im not sure what it could be. if anyone can help by telling me what might be wrong i would appreciate it. Thanks guys!
Need help please!!!
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Sounds like you are dealing with 2 different problems. You need to find why it won't start, then the overheating problem (doesn't matter which engine, how many miles, etc.). Basic trouble shooting is the first step. Fuel, spark and compression? Fuel pump running? Pull the trouble codes from the computer. Let us know what you find. Once it is running, overheating could be several things. Thermostat, bad fan clutch, loose fan belt, clogged fins in radiator/condenser, clogged (internal) radiator, head gasket and some others. Keep us posted and TN will help you out. Get a service manual or use the online one. Good luck! And welcome to the forum.
Agreed on all parts.
You say you just got it yesterday... any chance of help from where you got it from? Dealer or private sales?
Just curious if it was a pre-know condition.. but if it run and drove good when you brought it home, the rest is fixable.
yeah the truck ran fine when i bought it, but when i was on my way home with it, it started to overheat so i let it sit for the night, and i went back to get it the next day and i went about ten miles and it overheated again. so i finally got it home and now it wont even start up, it just cranks and doesnt fire up.
Crank won't start could be your signal generator inside the distributor, the igniter, or even a coil. In fact, it maybe all three. Back in the day, we use to replace them for the very symptom you describe for the no starting. Look at your distributor and inside the cap, if it has white powder, you know that is a sure sign, but just because it doesn't, does not mean its not.
You need 3 things for a engine to run...
Air, Fuel and spark...
Take each one at a time..
Make sure your air filter/intake hose is clear
You are getting fuel to the fuel rail
You are getting spark from the coil, to each plug.
As you go through these you will find what the issue with starting is..
THEN you can trouble shoot the overheating.. they are not directly related unless you have a cracked head or blown head-gasket at this point,.
If you have full fluids and not mixing or leaks... that is more than likely not your issue.
Air, Fuel and spark...
Take each one at a time..
Make sure your air filter/intake hose is clear
You are getting fuel to the fuel rail
You are getting spark from the coil, to each plug.
As you go through these you will find what the issue with starting is..
THEN you can trouble shoot the overheating.. they are not directly related unless you have a cracked head or blown head-gasket at this point,.
If you have full fluids and not mixing or leaks... that is more than likely not your issue.
ok when i was looking under the hood earlier, i noticed this thing on top of the head that was broke so i got the part number off of it, and it said it was a vacuum switch valve, the part # is 9091012084. Im not sure if that has anything to do with it not starting so does anyone know what it does and if it has anything to do with it not starting?
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I know one of those things is the idle up a/c "thingy" counteracts the bogging caused by the ac putting drag on the motor, dont know what the other two do.
but FWIW on every used car I buy, I get one of those radiator flush kits that you hook a water hose to and clean out the radiator, heater core, and plumbing.
but FWIW on every used car I buy, I get one of those radiator flush kits that you hook a water hose to and clean out the radiator, heater core, and plumbing.
I don't think so, but I'm not sure. Any time something electronic isn't hooked up, you have to wonder. But you will need to replace that broken piece at some point. I can get you a price on it if you want.
As I stated in an earlier post, and based on past experience, if you are getting fuel, i.e. your fuel pump isn't bad, I do believe it is either your signal generator, igniter, or coil, or a combination. In the past, I have replaced all three items with some regularaty. That doesn't mean that all three are bad at once, although I have seen that too, my guess is the igniter. At least check it or have someone check it for you. That is a symptom of an igniter, cranking but won't fire.
As I stated in an earlier post, and based on past experience, if you are getting fuel, i.e. your fuel pump isn't bad, I do believe it is either your signal generator, igniter, or coil, or a combination. In the past, I have replaced all three items with some regularaty. That doesn't mean that all three are bad at once, although I have seen that too, my guess is the igniter. At least check it or have someone check it for you. That is a symptom of an igniter, cranking but won't fire.
Hey Toyopartsman...
You are just up the road from me bud.
You are just up the road from me bud.
Awsoeme, let me know if I can ever be of assistance.
Hey Toyopartsman...
You are just up the road from me bud.
Well, in the old days, we use to stock them, and well we just plugged one in and if it worked, problem solves. Some tech even just replaced the iginiter and coil at the same time. I am not 100% certain on yours, but I do know that the igniter used to sit righ on or very near the coil. Tomorrow, I will ask one of our old timers and he may know a way to test it without having to buy the part and post when I find out. I am sorry that I don't have a better explaination for you, but I am not a tech. There may be some people in the forum that can help you out on that. They may agree or disagree with me on the diag.
Again, the symptom and what we use to replace is why I suggested what I suggested.
Again, the symptom and what we use to replace is why I suggested what I suggested.
Hey McCoy, the broken part shouldn't keep it from starting but might make it run terrible. Let's go back though....do you have spark at the plugs? Spraying starting fluid in the breather (not sure where you mean) may not have any effect either. Do you have fuel/fuel pump running? Just throwing parts at it is not a good way to go. Do you have a friend that's a mechanic to help you do trouble shooting? Let us know what you find.
bonacker, yes i do have spark, and someone told me to spray starting fluid in the throttle body and if it starts then the fuel pump is bad, so i did that and it still didnt start, but me and a buddy took a fuel line off and tried starting it and no fuel shot out so would that mean a bad fuel pump?
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