[pokmiuhy]

First off, hello everyone. New to the forum. From NC with an 09 trd sport dc lb

I've been reading all night and wanted to ask some questions just to clarify.

So I have a daystar 2.5" level kit. Or 2.25" can't remember which it was. Anyway, daystar says I can run up to 32" tires. With it. My thoughts were to go with a 265/75R16 or 17 would this fit? Could I go bigger? Id like to keep from trimming.

And then to wheels, do 16's fit or is it just dependent on the wheel? I'm thinking the eagle alloy 185, Motometal 951 black or fj trd wheels. Not sure about bs and offset in regards to tire size either...

Anyone running a similar truck with the daystar level and some bigger tires? What wheels?

Thanks in advance

 

[08TRDOFFROAD]

:welcome: to TN!

The 265/75/16's or 265/70/17's is the largest you will be able to run on any lift other than 6". The reason being, anything larger will rub the cab mounts.

As far as rims. I know the Moto Metal's and the FJ TRD's will fit in 16", other brands are hit or miss due to our oversized brake calipers on the front wheels. As far as backspacing and offset, ideally you want a rim with 4.5" backspacing and 0 mm offset (negative offset will cause you to rub, even with the tire sizes I mentioned above).

 

[Chris22]

Welcome to the forums. I just bought Moto Metal 955s 17 x 9 wheels with a -12 offset. My truck is stock and not lifted. I had them put the original tires back on the new rim (265/65R17) with no problems at all. I dont plan on lifting my truck right now and am looking to get new tires also... I continually get the same recommendation 08TRDOFFROAD gave you above 265/70R17.

And I have seen the Moto Metal 951s on a Silver Streak tacoma at work... they look amazing!

Hope this helped.

 

[08TRDOFFROAD]

Welcome to the forums. I just bought Moto Metal 955s 17 x 9 wheels with a -12 offset. My truck is stock and not lifted. I had them put the original tires back on the new rim (265/65R17) with no problems at all. I dont plan on lifting my truck right now and am looking to get new tires also... I continually get the same recommendation 08TRDOFFROAD gave you above 265/70R17.

And I have seen the Moto Metal 951s on a Silver Streak tacoma at work... they look amazing!

Hope this helped.

Just an FYI Chris, You will rub with the 265/70/17's due to the -12 mm offset of your rims. I have the same problem and it is annoying! I rub the front of my wheel well and the mudflaps and I even lifted the front 1.75". I ran a 265/75/16 (which is the exact same diameter of the 265/70/17's) tire on my stock TRD OR rims and did not rub in these areas. Other who are running rims with 0 offset do not rub in these locations either.

 

[pokmiuhy]

:welcome: to TN!

The 265/75/16's or 265/70/17's is the largest you will be able to run on any lift other than 6". The reason being, anything larger will rub the cab mounts.

As far as rims. I know the Moto Metal's and the FJ TRD's will fit in 16", other brands are hit or miss due to our oversized brake calipers on the front wheels. As far as backspacing and offset, ideally you want a rim with 4.5" backspacing and 0 mm offset (negative offset will cause you to rub, even with the tire sizes I mentioned above).

So if I go bigger than that ill be hacking bits off to fit the new shoes? That's helped tremendously. Thanks so much. Hopefully ill get me the new wheels/tires and post some pictures.

I like the look of 16s better so ill Probly go with the 16 951s..they do look awesome.

 

[trailblzr00]

Just thought I would clarify that backspacing and offset refer to the same aspect of the wheel, just from different reference points. You can't have a 9" wide wheel with 4.5" backspacing AND anything other than 0mm offset. If you have -12mm offset, then that means you don't have 4.5" backspacing. This would change if you were to consider an 8" wide wheel with 4.5" backspacing, which would have +12.7mm offset.

 

[pokmiuhy]

Just thought I would clarify that backspacing and offset refer to the same aspect of the wheel, just from different reference points. You can't have a 9" wide wheel with 4.5" backspacing AND anything other than 0mm offset. If you have -12mm offset, then that means you don't have 4.5" backspacing. This would change if you were to consider an 8" wide wheel with 4.5" backspacing, which would have +12.7mm offset.

I got ya. offset is the measurement from dead center to the mounting point. so that makes perfect sense. :facepalm:


so I'm looking for something with 4.5" backspacing. be it in a 8" or 9" wide wheel. As long as I don't go into negative offset, I'm good. thats what I'm taking from all of this? that correct?

 

[trailblzr00]

I got ya. offset is the measurement from dead center to the mounting point. so that makes perfect sense. :facepalm:


so I'm looking for something with 4.5" backspacing. be it in a 8" or 9" wide wheel. As long as I don't go into negative offset, I'm good. thats what I'm taking from all of this? that correct?

That's right :thumbsup: Too much negative offset and you may require some inner fender trimming. Too much positive offset and the wheel could actually interfere with brake caliper, spindle, etc.

I went with a little negative offset with my wheels to slightly widen the stance. I'm running 265/65/17's with the outside edge of the tire sitting maybe an inch outside of the fender. I don't have any rubbing issues with this setup along with a 2.5" level up front.

 

[Chris22]

This has been good for me too... thanks for all the inputs everyone! So with a -12mm offset, no lift, and 265/70R17 could I use a spacer to prevent inner rubbing. Or should I just stick with the 265/65R17 tires?

 

[08TRDOFFROAD]

Spacer will not solve the rub issue. You are better off sticking with the 265/65/17 if you have rims with -12 mm offset and 4.5" backspacing.

 

[Chris22]

Thanks 08TRDOFFROAD... you always give the best advice.

 

[trailblzr00]

This has been good for me too... thanks for all the inputs everyone! So with a -12mm offset, no lift, and 265/70R17 could I use a spacer to prevent inner rubbing. Or should I just stick with the 265/65R17 tires?

08TRDOFFROAD: Spacer will not solve the rub issue. You are better off sticking with the 265/65/17 if you have rims with -12 mm offset and 4.5" backspacing.

As 08TRDOFFROAD said, the spacer will not help the issue. It would actually make the situation worse because it effectively creates more negative offset, which is the cause of the cab mount/fender rubbing issue. Also, if your 17x9 rims have -12mm offset, that translates to a 4.25" backspacing :thumbsup:

 

[08TRDOFFROAD]

As 08TRDOFFROAD said, the spacer will not help the issue. It would actually make the situation worse because it effectively creates more negative offset, which is the cause of the cab mount/fender rubbing issue. Also, if your 17x9 rims have -12mm offset, that translates to a 4.25" backspacing :thumbsup:

That depends on the rim. I know for a fact the my Moto's have 4.5" backspacing and -12 mm offset.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/prodDetail.aspx?partno=W/PMO9517960212

 

[trailblzr00]

That depends on the rim. I know for a fact the my Moto's have 4.5" backspacing and -12 mm offset.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/prodDetail.aspx?partno=W%2fPMO9517960212

Good point, rims that don't have symmetrical inner and outer flanges (like the Moto's) can have backspacings different than what would be expected from those that are symmetrical. (usually no more than +/- 0.25")