oil help

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Mikey5

Discussion Starter · Feb 2, 2007

I did my first synthetic oil change, however, the first thing i noticed when i removed the drain plug, it didnt have a gasket. Is my truck fine without it or will there be problems? I didnt mind it at first so i closed it and added 5.5 qtz of mobil 1 synthetic, however, i checked the dipstick afterwards and it showed that i over filled it. now my 2nd question is, should i change my oil again to get the correct level or will it be fine until the next oil change? please help.

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zmtnbik

· #2 · Feb 2, 2007

Mikey5 said:
I did my first synthetic oil change, however, the first thing i noticed when i removed the drain plug, it didnt have a gasket. Is my truck fine without it or will there be problems? I didnt mind it at first so i closed it and added 5.5 qtz of mobil 1 synthetic, however, i checked the dipstick afterwards and it showed that i over filled it. now my 2nd question is, should i change my oil again to get the correct level or will it be fine until the next oil change? please help.

Did you check the oil before or after running the engine after the change? Also, did you change the oil filter?
It's a good idea to circulate the oil a few minutes, turn off the engine and then recheck. If you only added 5.5 qts, as the capacity with the 4x4 V6 is exactly 5.5 qts.

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toku58

· #3 · Feb 2, 2007

Mikey5 said:
I did my first synthetic oil change, however, the first thing i noticed when i removed the drain plug, it didnt have a gasket. Is my truck fine without it or will there be problems? I didnt mind it at first so i closed it and added 5.5 qtz of mobil 1 synthetic, however, i checked the dipstick afterwards and it showed that i over filled it. now my 2nd question is, should i change my oil again to get the correct level or will it be fine until the next oil change? please help.

There is a gasket! Might have been stuck to the oil pan. mine was. Or it may have dropped into the old oil. A little over is O.K. But I fill my truck up with 5qts.
You might look into this:
http://www.lubricationspecialist.com/front/showcontent.aspx?fileid=105
You need the F-103 Really makes oil change easy!!

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Mikey5

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 2, 2007

i checked the oil after running the engine and yes i changed the oil filter. i still have the same problems. no gasket and the dipstick still shows that i added too much.

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Mikey5

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 2, 2007

cool. i'll look into that. thanks toku

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Splicer

· #6 · Feb 2, 2007

Mikey5 said:
when i removed the drain plug, it didnt have a gasket.

Should be an aluminum crush washer; you may not have noticed it if it stayed on the drain plug. Check your drain pan carefully to see if it fell off in there.

Assuming you have the 1GR-FE engine in a 4x4 or Prerunner, the manual calls for 5.5 quarts (as zmtnbik said) with filter change, and of course the filter should be changed every time. Mine shows full on the dipstick with 5 quarts, and that's what I put in. For the record, the 'add' mark on the stick indicates 1 1/2 quarts low.

If you drained the oil thoroughly and changed the filter, I wouldn't worry about the dipstick showing overfull at 5.5 quarts.

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DCab4X407

· #7 · Feb 2, 2007

how much is to much man? just a little over the line? if its just a little over the line its ok, if its like half an inch, then you just pull the drain plug for about 3 seconds or something, and then chack it, and maybe add a small bit to get it perfect...

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tcbrokenwings

· #8 · Feb 2, 2007

hahah uh oh i dropped 6 qtz on my last two oil changes...

but i do have the hp 1002 (bigger oil filter)

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boone

· #9 · Feb 2, 2007

tcbrokenwings said:
hahah uh oh i dropped 6 qtz on my last two oil changes...

but i do have the hp 1002 (bigger oil filter)

The 1002 is the suggested size filter. The 2009 is the bigger one.

I have noticed during every oil change roughly 0.3 quarts stays in the engine. Not saying it's just at the bottom of the pan either. And it has nothing to do with the Fumoto. All four times, I've noticed the same thing. The only thing you can do is get the oil really hot before you pull the plug and hope most of it drains out. Even still. Oil will continue to cling to the walls and bottom of the pan.

In the future, I would start by adding 5.2 quarts, running the engine, checking the level and topping off from there.

If you put 5.5 quarts in this time you'll be fine. It may show that it's a little full but not enough to harm anything. 6 quarts is definitely pushing it.

With the "bigger filter" the capacity increases to 5.8 quarts. The last change I used a HP-2009 and 5.5 quarts. Ran it. The oil was right at the line.

Good luck. Don't sweat a few extra ounces.

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msibille

· #10 · Feb 2, 2007

+1
W/ standard filter, mine takes just over 5 1/4 US qts. right at the full mark

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screeber

· #11 · Feb 2, 2007

As for your crush washer, my experience is the same as toku's. Mine has either stuck to the oil pan, or dropped into the pan of drained oil. More likely it sticks to the oil pan, and is not always easy to notice there. You might need to try and pop it off with a flat head screwdriver.

If it's really not there, you risk getting a small leak if the plug didn't get a tight seal. Not a major issue, especially since you overfilled anyway. If you have/get a signficant leak, then of course you'll need to address the issue.

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Mikey5

Discussion Starter · #12 · Feb 2, 2007

Thanks for the help guys. Appreciate it a lot...i'm thinking about buyin that oil drain valve...has anyone had any problems using the valve?

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TucsonTRD

· #13 · Feb 2, 2007

no problems with the fumoto valve. i consider it mandatory if you change your own oil. it just makes it so easy. it is easily worth twice it's price just for the convenience

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