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Hey guys! So I was doing my first oil change this past weekend and i ran into a little bit of trouble. I use to have a 2000 camry where the filter was in a similar place to my 06 taco. Well... when I let the engine sit overnight to change the oil the next morning all od the oil from the filter will drain out of it, which makes it easy and cleaner when i unscrew it to take the filter out. Well... i thought the taco would be the same but NO. I let the engine sit overnight thinking that the oil will drain out of the filter and that i can unscrew it mess free... BOY WAS I WRONG!!! When i unscrewed it a good about of oil spilled down from the inverted filter. I know theres a little spill resevoir right on the rim of the filter, but it wasnt enough to contain all of the oil that spilled out... DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM!??!?! It's normal right?!?!? Any input/experiences would help guys!!! I had a lot to clean up especially when it spilled down to my stock skid plate which i had to remove to clean the mess. thanks boys!!!
 

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I did have oil still in the filter. I think its because of vacuum pressure. Maybe if you punched a hole in the filter it might drain??
I might try that next time??? You just need to be careful.
 

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There is a small black drain cap on the bottom of the spill reservoir that surrounds the oil filter. REMOVE that cap BEFORE you take the oil filter off, this will allow any spilled oil to drain out of the spill reservoir without overflowing everywhere. Put a can or plastic cup under the hole (were you remove the cap from) and it will catch any excess oil that spills into the spill reservoir.
 

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azntony85 said:
Hey guys! So I was doing my first oil change this past weekend and i ran into a little bit of trouble. I use to have a 2000 camry where the filter was in a similar place to my 06 taco. Well... when I let the engine sit overnight to change the oil the next morning all od the oil from the filter will drain out of it, which makes it easy and cleaner when i unscrew it to take the filter out. Well... i thought the taco would be the same but NO. I let the engine sit overnight thinking that the oil will drain out of the filter and that i can unscrew it mess free... BOY WAS I WRONG!!! When i unscrewed it a good about of oil spilled down from the inverted filter. I know theres a little spill resevoir right on the rim of the filter, but it wasnt enough to contain all of the oil that spilled out... DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM!??!?! It's normal right?!?!? Any input/experiences would help guys!!! I had a lot to clean up especially when it spilled down to my stock skid plate which i had to remove to clean the mess. thanks boys!!!
You should have came over for help! JK there was only a little bit of an oil spill the both time i have done it not that big of a deal maybe you were just unlucky?
 

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2 tacomas said:
There is a small black drain cap on the bottom of the spill reservoir that surrounds the oil filter. REMOVE that cap BEFORE you take the oil filter off, this will allow any spilled oil to drain out of the spill reservoir without overflowing everywhere. Put a can or plastic cup under the hole (were you remove the cap from) and it will catch any excess oil that spills into the spill reservoir.
x2 or run some tubing from the nipple down so it will drain into a can, bottle, drain pan etc....
 

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X3 - and while some subscribe to punching a hole in the filter, I don't. Why take a chance on cross-contaminating the inlet/outlet of the filter and have the dirty oil drain back into the clean side of the filter connection? Just do as described above (a small plastic water or soft drink bottle fits really well squeezed in btwn the hose and rad shroud) and remove the filter so you keep all the dirt in the filter. Drain the crankcase, install the plug. Prefill the new filter, install it, and remove the bottle. (FWIW, I've never seen any of the prefill oil go in the drain, but just a precaution to prevent a mess.) Add oil to the fill line, start the engine. Shut down, let sit a few minutes, then check dipstick and add as needed. (If you've not seen this on earlier posts, you probably haven't seen the hint to sand the dipstick with med sandpaper to create scratches perpendicular to it's length to make it easier to read.)
 

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I can't do black headlights but I have been changing my own oil in Toyo pickups for about 20 years.
1. Warm the engine up a few minutes.
2. Shut off engine and drain Crank case. Leave plug out.
3. 05 and up Tacos, either use a plastic tube or plastic bottle ( 24oz ozarka water bottle fits perfect ) take off rubber nipple on filter drain hole and wedge plastic bottle under hole.
4. Unscrew filter until oil starts to drain and stop. Let oil drain out a couple minutes. Now take filter all the way off.
5. Lube gasket on new filter and install, hand tight. Unless your changing oil outside in Alaska in FEB, you don't need to prefill filter.
6. Carefully remove plastic bottle and put nipple back on. Wipe off oil around filter.
7. PUT CRANK CASE PLUG BACK IN.
8. Put 4 qt. oil in, put cap on.
9. Run engine 2-3 min. Check oil psi light goes out in 1 or 2 seconds or shut off.
10. Fill to just below full line on dipstic. 5qts is perfect on a 4.0 Liter V6.
11. Run engine check for leaks. Yer Dun. Takes less than 15 min. and not a drop on the floor!
 

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also it is good practice to change the oil after the engine has been running for a while and its nice and hot. That way any particles will be floating around in the oil and not just sitting at the bottom of the pan.

Mike
 

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I'm still slightly confused as to how some 4.0 V6 engines are full wth 5 quarts while others take 5.5 :confused:
 

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Like the old softdrink commercial says "You've gotta push real hard!"

I can only guess it's variations in how empty some folks let them drain, which filter they use, and whether they really care if it's just below, at, or above the fill line.
1/4 of a US qt is 14.44 in^3. If you're filling a reservoir that's roughly 10 x 20 inches at the top (I really don't know what it is, just picking some round numbers), that amounts to a change in level of 0.072 inch (just over 1/16 inch). With the odd dipsticks, some sanded, some not, I can easily envision a 1/16 in variation either way.
 

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I just did my first oil change on the new Taco and not one drop of oil hit the floor or the engine. 2 Tacomas has it exactly correct. I put a plastic cup under the catcher drain. But here's my two cents worth. I made a hook out of a piece of coat hanger that clips onto the catcher and holds the plastic cup under the drain. I did not want to do the tubing to the drain pan because I thought the tubing would hold some oil and then I'd have to put the tubing some place where it would not drip. So for that reason the plastic (or paper) cup idea is better. When you're done you simply pour the few ounces of oil into the drain pan and throw the cup away.
 

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THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO BOYS!!! I knew you guys would come thru to the rescue!!! :0) You shall hear from me in another 3000 miles to see results... but until then. Here's a cold one on me!!! :chug:
 

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Do you guys fill the filter with oil before installing? I never have because it seemed like it would make a mess with the 4L's upside down filter.
 

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I thought oil was not supposed to drain back out the filter because of an anti drain valve?
 

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Unless you have an Anti-Gravity switch in your garage or can somehow flip and suspend your truck upside down, don't worry about pre-filling the filter. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
 

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Maybe I just don't fully trust the anti-drainback valve, but I never pre-fill the filter. I do clean the filter mating surface on the engine, and coat the filter's o-ring with clean oil.
 

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Speedy Dry !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Hans Moleman said:
I thought oil was not supposed to drain back out the filter because of an anti drain valve?[/quote
The valve only works when the filter is on the engine. While holding the filter in your hand, the valve works about the same as a coffe mug. You turn it upside down, the liquid runs out.
 

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SuperTaco said:
Hans Moleman said:
I thought oil was not supposed to drain back out the filter because of an anti drain valve?[/quote
The valve only works when the filter is on the engine. While holding the filter in your hand, the valve works about the same as a coffe mug. You turn it upside down, the liquid runs out.
I believe Hans was answering the original question as to why the filter does not drain over night.

NOT about the Pre-Fill question.
 
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