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:welcome: I have some questions and I need some answers.

First off I am a nub. I have never installed hids before so I have no idea what you guys are talking about or anything. The only thing I know is what color I want. It seems alot of ppl here are putting on hids with stock housings which doesnt seem to be a problem. I think I will try this out myself as well. :thumbsup:

I have read some of the hid threads so I have my own questions now.

1. Has anyone done hids with highbeams? If so can the drl still work with it and how? What is needing to be done I read something about a relay but am totally lost.:confused:

2. Is installing hids on fogs the same as low beams? If not then how would I do this? Also will hid fogs glare?

3. Does the high beam hids glare? I am reading that the lowbeams dont really glare so do the highbeams?

I hope these questions dont seem to be to dumb since there have been so many about hids lately.

I thank you for reading my thread and helping me out. :clap:
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1. Has anyone done hids with highbeams? If so can the drl still work with it and how? What is needing to be done I read something about a relay but am totally lost.:confused:
Think of HIDs as either ON or OFF. No in between. Your DRLs are currently halogen bulbs working at mid power... in between on and off. DRL power lelvel isn't enough to power the HIDs -> causing flicker and decreased HID bulb life.
2. Is installing hids on fogs the same as low beams? If not then how would I do this? Also will hid fogs glare?
NO. you need to google diff b/t fogs and low beams. They have completely different beam patterns. the bulbs themselves are H11 vs 9006 for lows.
3. Does the high beam hids glare? I am reading that the lowbeams dont really glare so do the highbeams?
ANY high beam will = GLARE. Doesn't mattter if it's HID or halogen. I really dont think they're necessary for high beams at all unless you live in the middle of nowhere
I hope these questions dont seem to be to dumb since there have been so many about hids lately.
I thank you for reading my thread and helping me out.
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:welcome: I have some questions and I need some answers.

First off I am a nub. I have never installed hids before so I have no idea what you guys are talking about or anything. The only thing I know is what color I want. It seems alot of ppl here are putting on hids with stock housings which doesnt seem to be a problem. I think I will try this out myself as well. :thumbsup:

I have read some of the hid threads so I have my own questions now.

1. Has anyone done hids with highbeams? If so can the drl still work with it and how? What is needing to be done I read something about a relay but am totally lost.:confused:

2. Is installing hids on fogs the same as low beams? If not then how would I do this? Also will hid fogs glare?

3. Does the high beam hids glare? I am reading that the lowbeams dont really glare so do the highbeams?

I hope these questions dont seem to be to dumb since there have been so many about hids lately.

I thank you for reading my thread and helping me out. :clap:
1 - HID highbeams are pointless. Just keep the stock highbeams.
2. Do not install HID's for Fog lights. Very unsafe and blinding to oncoming traffic.
3. see number 1.

HID's in your stock halogen housing do glare. and is very unsafe, blinding to oncoming traffic.
The best way to solve this is to do an HID retrofit.

Check this thread out http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294244

Retrofit. Perfect cutoff lines.


Halogen housing...a lot of glare


Go to www.hidplanet.com and do some research.
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Anybody tells you that his/her HID (in halogen housing) doesn't produce glare is lying ;) It doesn't matter if you get cheap Chinese HID kits or high-end Philips HID kits because the glare will always be there.

Now if s/he claims that his/her HID (in halogen housing) produces no glare, then we will need some proof ;)
Anybody tells you that his/her HID (in halogen housing) doesn't produce glare is lying ;) It doesn't matter if you get cheap Chinese HID kits or high-end Philips HID kits because the glare will always be there.

Now if s/he claims that his/her HID (in halogen housing) produces no glare, then we will need some proof ;)



ZOMG!!! NO GLARE!!!

P.S. I have never blinded oncoming traffic at all with HID's for Lo-Beams...K..thanks..

Good Luck with your HID Setup Trunks!
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Goku Can you post a shot of your beam pattern against a wall?


ZOMG!!! NO GLARE!!!

P.S. I have never blinded oncoming traffic at all with HID's for Lo-Beams...K..thanks..

Good Luck with your HID Setup Trunks!
Didn't you say that the photo above is a photo of someone else's Corolla in the other thread?
Ref.: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2741662&postcount=15

Well like the above poster said, please post a photo with your light against a wall...Then we will see whether there's glare or not ;)
You can't bullshit a bullshitter... :lol:
I don't see what it matters if its another person Corolla, Same Headlight housing...Unadjusted.

But this isn't my thread. So lets not hijack it..
They aren't hijacking. He asked questions...we answered them. And that pic above looks like it's taken at an angle so it won't show the glare.

It's inevitable ALL halogen housing with HID's WILL throw the light in every direction because of the reflectors. Why would the Corolla be any different? what makes it so special. If that were the case all halogen reflectors would be the same and Car makers would put HID's in ALL their cars and cut costs on actual projectors.

It's a matter of common sense, do you want to be safe, or be "cool" and put the safety of others at risk.

Those who say "i don't have glare, nor do HID's in a halogen house blind me" are in major denial...

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I don't see what it matters if its another person Corolla, Same Headlight housing...Unadjusted.

But this isn't my thread. So lets not hijack it..
Simple, it's not your car LOL

Take a picture directly of your car head on and one against a flat wall, and I will guarantee you that they will produce massive amounts of glare and hot-spotting.
I have done that to my old mazda with stock halogen housing. It looks cool in color but the light output is everywhere, it is bright but they don't focus at a point, you will see whole bunch of light going on in front of you car. And It did have alot of glare.
:welcome: I have some questions and I need some answers.

First off I am a nub. I have never installed hids before so I have no idea what you guys are talking about or anything. The only thing I know is what color I want. It seems alot of ppl here are putting on hids with stock housings which doesnt seem to be a problem. I think I will try this out myself as well. :thumbsup:

I have read some of the hid threads so I have my own questions now.

1. Has anyone done hids with highbeams? If so can the drl still work with it and how? What is needing to be done I read something about a relay but am totally lost.:confused:

2. Is installing hids on fogs the same as low beams? If not then how would I do this? Also will hid fogs glare?

3. Does the high beam hids glare? I am reading that the lowbeams dont really glare so do the highbeams?

I hope these questions dont seem to be to dumb since there have been so many about hids lately.

I thank you for reading my thread and helping me out. :clap:
To answer your question:
1. Having HIDs in your high beams with drl will cause it to flicker and won't turn on because it is not receiving enough power. Unless you disable your drl then should be ok.
2. Having HIDs in your fog lights will create glare even if stock has a nice cutoff. Plus having HIDs in fog lights won't help much in the rain or fog. The xenon light tends to bounce off water so you won't have great light output when the floor is wet. As a matter of fact, it somes feels like the lights are off when driving at night in the rain. You can only see the light from reflectors and stuff. I was surprised how well I was able to see in the rain driving at night with halogen low beams and fogs. Also, having HID fogs will just make the front of the car super bright and will strain your eyes in the long run and making things far away seems darker.
3. Having HIDs in your high beams will definitely glare since that's what they're suppose to do I guess lol High beams are like a big blob of glare, having HIDs in them just intensify them. If the car's headlights aren't designed for HIDs then you will have glare no matter what people say. From a distance, you will look like you're driving with your high beams on all the time.

Good luck to you and your decision. No matter how many times we try to educate people about HIDs and how it will have glare, there will always be people that will tell you otherwise. Those people either don't care or just get them for looks or just doing it the easy way.
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This Video should explain it for you... It's from Britain, but the same laws are here in North America...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSSdZNsZw&feature=related

and here is the 1st of a 4 part DIY video on how to install Projectors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imIiglkq7HA&feature=related
First Video :thumbsup: GREAT find.
That first video should be a sticky: "Mandatory Viewing Before Considering HIDs"

I've had trucks behind me with HIDs in stock housings, always looks like they have their brights on... bastards.

Only good thing about it is I can see every sign within two miles ahead of me.
This is THE best reply about HIDs in stock housings, ever.


One popular modification to our cars that has been the recent subject of heated debate is installing HID conversion kits in stock headlight housings. Some like the low cost approach to what they believe will give them better lighting, other believe this sort of modification is dangerous and should not be done. I will leave my personal thoughts on the subject out of this posting. However, it should be stated that before performing any modification to your vehicle, you should check all federal, state, and local laws before you possibly do something to your car that could render it illegal to operate on public roads.

Please note, installing HID type lamps in a normal factory headlight is not approved by the DOT, and is illegal.

For the time being, any discussion about installing HID lamps in factory headlight housings are to remain civil. It is perfectly fine to remind our fellow members of the legalities of the issue in a polite way, but, other than this friendly reminder, if you do not have any technically relevant information to contribute this type of discussion, keep your opinion to yourself. Any negative comments, arguing, or insulting with or of other members will result in administrative action, including temporary suspension, posting privileges in the the exterior body and lighting forum revoke, or even permanent banning for frequent offenders.
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Consider it done @ sticky.
Hey Mod,

Just wanted to point out that the word mandatory is spelled wrong in the sticky... It's spelled with an A, not an I.
thanks lol....Firefox usually corrects it....hmm. but thanks i'll change it :thumbsup:
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