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·Art wrote:
> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
Sudan."
Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
options."
She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
"rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
corroborate the CIA's assessment.
[ end quote ]
Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
Sudan."
Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
options."
She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
"rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
corroborate the CIA's assessment.
[ end quote ]
Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
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·On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:28:44 +0000, Art wrote:
> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
How did Bush blow them up, Art?
--
A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man
I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
It's just that too many other people on the road
drive like Paul Tracy...
> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
How did Bush blow them up, Art?
--
A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man
I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
It's just that too many other people on the road
drive like Paul Tracy...
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·In article <0adyf.9425$M%[email protected]>,
"Art" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
Art, would you mind telling us honestly how you like your new Honda?
Now be as honest as you were when you owned the Toyota. Who knows I may
be a potential Honda owner someday.
Perhaps you will be so generous to give us a report in a year and two
years as we progress.
As for Bush and the war, I'm so glad we have a President who does not
worry about his own ass as Clinton, Gore or Kerry would and that
President Bush is continuing to pursue the low down dirty bastards that
killed 3000 of our innocent citizens who were working and going about
their daily lives on 9/11. I hope we eventually get them all no matter
what it takes.
--
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
"Art" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
Art, would you mind telling us honestly how you like your new Honda?
Now be as honest as you were when you owned the Toyota. Who knows I may
be a potential Honda owner someday.
Perhaps you will be so generous to give us a report in a year and two
years as we progress.
As for Bush and the war, I'm so glad we have a President who does not
worry about his own ass as Clinton, Gore or Kerry would and that
President Bush is continuing to pursue the low down dirty bastards that
killed 3000 of our innocent citizens who were working and going about
their daily lives on 9/11. I hope we eventually get them all no matter
what it takes.
--
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
G
Guest
·In article <[email protected]>,
"Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Art wrote:
> > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
> Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
>
> The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
>
> The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
> a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> Sudan."
>
> Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
> similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> options."
>
> She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
> Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
>
> The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> [ end quote ]
>
> Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
>
> Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
9/11.
Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is taking
the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
--
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
"Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Art wrote:
> > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
> Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
>
> The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
>
> The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
> a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> Sudan."
>
> Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
> similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> options."
>
> She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
> Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
>
> The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> [ end quote ]
>
> Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
>
> Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
9/11.
Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is taking
the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
--
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
G
Guest
·Hachiroku wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:28:44 +0000, Art wrote:
>
> > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
> How did Bush blow them up, Art?
You remember that old saying, "The buck stops here" ?
Bush blows up women and children in Pakistan
(he got it right)
let me know if you need further elaboration, I'd be happy to help.
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:28:44 +0000, Art wrote:
>
> > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
> How did Bush blow them up, Art?
You remember that old saying, "The buck stops here" ?
Bush blows up women and children in Pakistan
(he got it right)
let me know if you need further elaboration, I'd be happy to help.
G
Guest
·The beneVolent dbu wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Art wrote:
> > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
> >
> > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
> >
> > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
> >
> > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
> > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> > Sudan."
> >
> > Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
> > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> > options."
> >
> > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
> > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
> >
> > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> > [ end quote ]
> >
> > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
> >
> > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
>
> But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
> about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
> 9/11.
>
> Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is taking
> the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
> the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
we've ever had.
You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
>
> learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Art wrote:
> > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
> >
> > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
> >
> > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
> >
> > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
> > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> > Sudan."
> >
> > Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
> > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> > options."
> >
> > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
> > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
> >
> > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> > [ end quote ]
> >
> > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
> >
> > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
>
> But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
> about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
> 9/11.
>
> Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is taking
> the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
> the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
we've ever had.
You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
>
> learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
G
Guest
·In article <[email protected]>,
"Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The beneVolent dbu wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Art wrote:
> > > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
> > >
> > > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
> > >
> > > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
> > >
> > > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> > > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
> > > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> > > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> > > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> > > Sudan."
> > >
> > > Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
> > > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> > > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> > > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> > > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> > > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> > > options."
> > >
> > > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> > > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> > > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
> > > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
> > >
> > > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> > > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> > > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> > > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> > > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> > > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> > > [ end quote ]
> > >
> > > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
> > >
> > > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
> >
> > But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
> > about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
> > 9/11.
> >
> > Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is taking
> > the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
> > the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
>
>
> If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
> himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
> we've ever had.
>
> You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
>
> >
> > learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
>
> Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
Bush is protecting your ass regardless if you are too stupid or too
caught up in moveondotorg to know. Bush has no regard for his own ass
which is what I want in a president. I only wish he could run for
another term.
--
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
"Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The beneVolent dbu wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Art wrote:
> > > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
> > >
> > > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
> > >
> > > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
> > >
> > > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> > > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
> > > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> > > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> > > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> > > Sudan."
> > >
> > > Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
> > > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> > > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> > > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> > > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> > > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> > > options."
> > >
> > > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> > > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> > > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
> > > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
> > >
> > > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> > > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> > > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> > > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> > > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> > > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> > > [ end quote ]
> > >
> > > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
> > >
> > > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
> >
> > But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
> > about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
> > 9/11.
> >
> > Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is taking
> > the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
> > the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
>
>
> If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
> himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
> we've ever had.
>
> You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
>
> >
> > learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
>
> Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
Bush is protecting your ass regardless if you are too stupid or too
caught up in moveondotorg to know. Bush has no regard for his own ass
which is what I want in a president. I only wish he could run for
another term.
--
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
G
Guest
·So far the Honda minivan and Accord hybrid are great but the Accord is way
behind in convenience which should be in a $30k plus car.
Features missing: trunk net (including hardware for one), auto lights (they
do turn off though if car is off and lites left on), auto locking, memory
driver seat, power passenger seat, stability control.
The minivan has all that and more but so far I am not impressed by the
premium sound system.
The Accord is not due for a major redesign until 2008 so it is likely to be
wiped off the map by the 2007 Camry.
behind in convenience which should be in a $30k plus car.
Features missing: trunk net (including hardware for one), auto lights (they
do turn off though if car is off and lites left on), auto locking, memory
driver seat, power passenger seat, stability control.
The minivan has all that and more but so far I am not impressed by the
premium sound system.
The Accord is not due for a major redesign until 2008 so it is likely to be
wiped off the map by the 2007 Camry.
G
Guest
·"The beneVolent dbu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The beneVolent dbu wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Art wrote:
> > > > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
> > > >
> > > > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
> > > >
> > > > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> > > > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for
VX,
> > > > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> > > > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> > > > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> > > > Sudan."
> > > >
> > > > Senior State Department officials believed that they had
received a
> > > > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> > > > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> > > > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> > > > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> > > > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> > > > options."
> > > >
> > > > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> > > > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> > > > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting
al
> > > > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
> > > >
> > > > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> > > > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> > > > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> > > > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> > > > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> > > > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> > > > [ end quote ]
> > > >
> > > > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
> > > >
> > > > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
> > >
> > > But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
> > > about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
> > > 9/11.
> > >
> > > Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is
taking
> > > the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
> > > the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
> >
> >
> > If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
> > himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
> > we've ever had.
> >
> > You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
> >
> > >
> > > learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
> >
> > Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
>
> Bush is protecting your ass regardless if you are too stupid or too
> caught up in moveondotorg to know. Bush has no regard for his own ass
> which is what I want in a president. I only wish he could run for
> another term.
> --
> Don't bite the hand that feeds you
>
First, Bush loves his own ass, dearly. That's why he sat out Viet Nam in
his obsolete fighter plane in the Champagne Unit of the TANG and then bailed
out of the service early.
Second, by aggravating Pakistan, Bush is taking a terrible risk. The
Pakistanis have a nuclear weapon and MOST of the Pakistani population are
fans ob Osama bin Laden. Killing Pakistani civilians is going to put more
pressure on Musharraf, who is not popular. One bullet, one heart attack,
one miscalculation and that guy's history and so is our friend Pakistan and
hello enemy Pakistan. Did I mention they have nukes? What do you suppose
might happen to these nukes during a regime change? What might a new,
unfriendly regime do with these nukes? What if Pakistan goes fundamentalist
Islamic?
We should be doing everything we can to make friends in Pakistan,
particularly respecting their sovereignty, even if it means we miss an
opportunity to kill one of OBL's many "lieutenants." We didn't exactly
distinguish ourselves with aid after the quake.
Reports now indicate that Zawahiri was not killed, anyway. Nice work, piss
off Pakistan for nothing.
We're at risk because Bush, the "windshield cowboy," doesn't think before he
acts, doesn't consider the effects of his actions, has low regard for the
people of other countries and lacks imagination.
But he sure
news:[email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The beneVolent dbu wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Art wrote:
> > > > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
> > > >
> > > > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
> > > >
> > > > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> > > > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for
VX,
> > > > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> > > > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> > > > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> > > > Sudan."
> > > >
> > > > Senior State Department officials believed that they had
received a
> > > > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> > > > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> > > > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> > > > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> > > > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> > > > options."
> > > >
> > > > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> > > > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> > > > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting
al
> > > > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
> > > >
> > > > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> > > > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> > > > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> > > > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> > > > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> > > > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> > > > [ end quote ]
> > > >
> > > > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
> > > >
> > > > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
> > >
> > > But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
> > > about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
> > > 9/11.
> > >
> > > Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is
taking
> > > the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
> > > the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
> >
> >
> > If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
> > himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
> > we've ever had.
> >
> > You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
> >
> > >
> > > learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
> >
> > Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
>
> Bush is protecting your ass regardless if you are too stupid or too
> caught up in moveondotorg to know. Bush has no regard for his own ass
> which is what I want in a president. I only wish he could run for
> another term.
> --
> Don't bite the hand that feeds you
>
First, Bush loves his own ass, dearly. That's why he sat out Viet Nam in
his obsolete fighter plane in the Champagne Unit of the TANG and then bailed
out of the service early.
Second, by aggravating Pakistan, Bush is taking a terrible risk. The
Pakistanis have a nuclear weapon and MOST of the Pakistani population are
fans ob Osama bin Laden. Killing Pakistani civilians is going to put more
pressure on Musharraf, who is not popular. One bullet, one heart attack,
one miscalculation and that guy's history and so is our friend Pakistan and
hello enemy Pakistan. Did I mention they have nukes? What do you suppose
might happen to these nukes during a regime change? What might a new,
unfriendly regime do with these nukes? What if Pakistan goes fundamentalist
Islamic?
We should be doing everything we can to make friends in Pakistan,
particularly respecting their sovereignty, even if it means we miss an
opportunity to kill one of OBL's many "lieutenants." We didn't exactly
distinguish ourselves with aid after the quake.
Reports now indicate that Zawahiri was not killed, anyway. Nice work, piss
off Pakistan for nothing.
We're at risk because Bush, the "windshield cowboy," doesn't think before he
acts, doesn't consider the effects of his actions, has low regard for the
people of other countries and lacks imagination.
But he sure
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·Art wrote:
> So far the Honda minivan and Accord hybrid are great but the Accord
> is way behind in convenience which should be in a $30k plus car.
>
> Features missing: trunk net (including hardware for one), auto lights
> (they do turn off though if car is off and lites left on), auto
> locking, memory driver seat, power passenger seat, stability control.
>
> The minivan has all that and more but so far I am not impressed by the
> premium sound system.
>
> The Accord is not due for a major redesign until 2008 so it is likely
> to be wiped off the map by the 2007 Camry.
However, the current Corolla has been wiped by the 06 Civic.
> So far the Honda minivan and Accord hybrid are great but the Accord
> is way behind in convenience which should be in a $30k plus car.
>
> Features missing: trunk net (including hardware for one), auto lights
> (they do turn off though if car is off and lites left on), auto
> locking, memory driver seat, power passenger seat, stability control.
>
> The minivan has all that and more but so far I am not impressed by the
> premium sound system.
>
> The Accord is not due for a major redesign until 2008 so it is likely
> to be wiped off the map by the 2007 Camry.
However, the current Corolla has been wiped by the 06 Civic.
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·Art's already squawking about his new Honda!!! (Was Re: OT - Bush blows up women and children in Pakistan
Art wrote:
> So far the Honda minivan and Accord hybrid are great but the Accord is
> way behind in convenience which should be in a $30k plus car.
>
> Features missing: trunk net (including hardware for one), auto lights
> (they do turn off though if car is off and lites left on), auto
> locking, memory driver seat, power passenger seat, stability control.
>
> The minivan has all that and more but so far I am not impressed by the
> premium sound system.
>
> The Accord is not due for a major redesign until 2008 so it is likely
> to be wiped off the map by the 2007 Camry.
>
Art, for the love of all things realistic, would you please do us a favour?
Just shut the hell up already!!!
You are such a crybaby because you are too stupid and lazy to look for the
presence of certain features you want before making a buying decision. It's
your own fault that you're never satisfied with anything.
BTW, a trunk net is available as a dealer add-on. And had you bought a non-
hybrid '06 Accord, you would have had stability control. In fact, all
Hondas have it for 2006. If you wanted a Honda with all of those luxury
items, then perhaps you should have looked at an Acura TL.
And please don't start bitching on the Honda newsgroups!
Art wrote:
> So far the Honda minivan and Accord hybrid are great but the Accord is
> way behind in convenience which should be in a $30k plus car.
>
> Features missing: trunk net (including hardware for one), auto lights
> (they do turn off though if car is off and lites left on), auto
> locking, memory driver seat, power passenger seat, stability control.
>
> The minivan has all that and more but so far I am not impressed by the
> premium sound system.
>
> The Accord is not due for a major redesign until 2008 so it is likely
> to be wiped off the map by the 2007 Camry.
>
Art, for the love of all things realistic, would you please do us a favour?
Just shut the hell up already!!!
You are such a crybaby because you are too stupid and lazy to look for the
presence of certain features you want before making a buying decision. It's
your own fault that you're never satisfied with anything.
BTW, a trunk net is available as a dealer add-on. And had you bought a non-
hybrid '06 Accord, you would have had stability control. In fact, all
Hondas have it for 2006. If you wanted a Honda with all of those luxury
items, then perhaps you should have looked at an Acura TL.
And please don't start bitching on the Honda newsgroups!
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·Art wrote:
> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
Intelligence/bush - what an oxymoron!
> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
Intelligence/bush - what an oxymoron!
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·"Art" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
Intelligence AND YOU are complete strangers.
news:0adyf.9425$M%[email protected]
>I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
Intelligence AND YOU are complete strangers.
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·"Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Art wrote:
>> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
> Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
>
> The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
>
> The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
> a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> Sudan."
>
> Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
> similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> options."
>
> She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
> Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
>
> The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> [ end quote ]
>
> Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
>
> Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
Asshole LIEbrawls DEMONrats like you make Mr. Bush look like a Rhodes
scholar..no NOT the Rhodes scholars who got BJ's in the Oral Office!!!
>
news:[email protected]
>
> Art wrote:
>> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
> Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
>
> The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
>
> The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
> a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> Sudan."
>
> Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
> similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> options."
>
> She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
> Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
>
> The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> [ end quote ]
>
> Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
>
> Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
Asshole LIEbrawls DEMONrats like you make Mr. Bush look like a Rhodes
scholar..no NOT the Rhodes scholars who got BJ's in the Oral Office!!!
>
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·"Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> The beneVolent dbu wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Art wrote:
>> > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>> >
>> > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
>> >
>> > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
>> >
>> > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
>> > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
>> > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
>> > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
>> > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
>> > Sudan."
>> >
>> > Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
>> > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
>> > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
>> > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
>> > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
>> > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
>> > options."
>> >
>> > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
>> > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
>> > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
>> > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
>> >
>> > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
>> > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
>> > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
>> > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
>> > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
>> > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
>> > [ end quote ]
>> >
>> > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
>> >
>> > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
>>
>> But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
>> about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
>> 9/11.
>>
>> Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is taking
>> the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
>> the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
>
>
> If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
> himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
> we've ever had.
>
> You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
I'm embarrassed sharing this ng with cowardly piles of surrender monkey shit
LIKE YOU.
>
>>
>> learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
>
> Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
>
news:[email protected]
>
> The beneVolent dbu wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Art wrote:
>> > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>> >
>> > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
>> >
>> > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
>> >
>> > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
>> > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,
>> > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
>> > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
>> > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
>> > Sudan."
>> >
>> > Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a
>> > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
>> > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
>> > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
>> > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
>> > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
>> > options."
>> >
>> > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
>> > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
>> > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al
>> > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
>> >
>> > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
>> > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
>> > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
>> > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
>> > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
>> > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
>> > [ end quote ]
>> >
>> > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
>> >
>> > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
>>
>> But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
>> about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
>> 9/11.
>>
>> Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is taking
>> the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
>> the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
>
>
> If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
> himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
> we've ever had.
>
> You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
I'm embarrassed sharing this ng with cowardly piles of surrender monkey shit
LIKE YOU.
>
>>
>> learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
>
> Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
>
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·"FanJet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Art wrote:
>> So far the Honda minivan and Accord hybrid are great but the Accord
>> is way behind in convenience which should be in a $30k plus car.
>>
>> Features missing: trunk net (including hardware for one), auto lights
>> (they do turn off though if car is off and lites left on), auto
>> locking, memory driver seat, power passenger seat, stability control.
>>
>> The minivan has all that and more but so far I am not impressed by the
>> premium sound system.
>>
>> The Accord is not due for a major redesign until 2008 so it is likely
>> to be wiped off the map by the 2007 Camry.
>
> However, the current Corolla has been wiped by the 06 Civic.
>
>
Bullshit. Up here only gang bangers and ricers drive Hondas.
news:[email protected]
> Art wrote:
>> So far the Honda minivan and Accord hybrid are great but the Accord
>> is way behind in convenience which should be in a $30k plus car.
>>
>> Features missing: trunk net (including hardware for one), auto lights
>> (they do turn off though if car is off and lites left on), auto
>> locking, memory driver seat, power passenger seat, stability control.
>>
>> The minivan has all that and more but so far I am not impressed by the
>> premium sound system.
>>
>> The Accord is not due for a major redesign until 2008 so it is likely
>> to be wiped off the map by the 2007 Camry.
>
> However, the current Corolla has been wiped by the 06 Civic.
>
>
Bullshit. Up here only gang bangers and ricers drive Hondas.
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·"FanJet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Art wrote:
>> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
> Intelligence/bush - what an oxymoron!
>
FanJet=failed retro abortion...no difference
news:[email protected]
> Art wrote:
>> I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>
> Intelligence/bush - what an oxymoron!
>
FanJet=failed retro abortion...no difference
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·In article <[email protected]>,
"dh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "The beneVolent dbu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > The beneVolent dbu wrote:
> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Art wrote:
> > > > > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
> > > > >
> > > > > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
> > > > >
> > > > > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> > > > > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for
> VX,
> > > > > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> > > > > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> > > > > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> > > > > Sudan."
> > > > >
> > > > > Senior State Department officials believed that they had
> received a
> > > > > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> > > > > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> > > > > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> > > > > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> > > > > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> > > > > options."
> > > > >
> > > > > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> > > > > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> > > > > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting
> al
> > > > > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> > > > > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> > > > > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> > > > > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> > > > > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> > > > > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> > > > > [ end quote ]
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
> > > >
> > > > But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
> > > > about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
> > > > 9/11.
> > > >
> > > > Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is
> taking
> > > > the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
> > > > the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
> > >
> > >
> > > If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
> > > himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
> > > we've ever had.
> > >
> > > You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
> > >
> > > Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
> >
> > Bush is protecting your ass regardless if you are too stupid or too
> > caught up in moveondotorg to know. Bush has no regard for his own ass
> > which is what I want in a president. I only wish he could run for
> > another term.
> > --
> > Don't bite the hand that feeds you
> >
>
> First, Bush loves his own ass, dearly. That's why he sat out Viet Nam in
> his obsolete fighter plane in the Champagne Unit of the TANG and then bailed
> out of the service early.
>
> Second, by aggravating Pakistan, Bush is taking a terrible risk. The
> Pakistanis have a nuclear weapon and MOST of the Pakistani population are
> fans ob Osama bin Laden. Killing Pakistani civilians is going to put more
> pressure on Musharraf, who is not popular. One bullet, one heart attack,
> one miscalculation and that guy's history and so is our friend Pakistan and
> hello enemy Pakistan. Did I mention they have nukes? What do you suppose
> might happen to these nukes during a regime change? What might a new,
> unfriendly regime do with these nukes? What if Pakistan goes fundamentalist
> Islamic?
>
> We should be doing everything we can to make friends in Pakistan,
> particularly respecting their sovereignty, even if it means we miss an
> opportunity to kill one of OBL's many "lieutenants." We didn't exactly
> distinguish ourselves with aid after the quake.
>
> Reports now indicate that Zawahiri was not killed, anyway. Nice work, piss
> off Pakistan for nothing.
>
> We're at risk because Bush, the "windshield cowboy," doesn't think before he
> acts, doesn't consider the effects of his actions, has low regard for the
> people of other countries and lacks imagination.
>
> But he sure
Many more took off for Canada. Many more just took off. Many more
tried to stay in school as long as they could. Many others just stayed
home. Bush when he was a young man learning how to fly a high
performance aircraft had no idea he'd be where he is today. If he did
have these long range plans he would taken steps as kerry did to get
himself in a combat situation for a couple of months and then get a ear
with some congressman so he could testify and make himself a prominent
antiwar activist, make headlines, which he was successful in doing and
promote himself as a politician with eventually gaining a seat in
congress. All planned out.
Btw, the F-102 was designed as a fighter interceptor. Not very good as
a dogfighter or air support aircraft. We had many other types of
aircraft better suited for those rolls. The F-102 was still considered
a high performance aircraft then.
Btw, there were many young men who tried as best they could to avoid the
draft by getting into the National Guard and reserves. They still
served. Bush could have taken the easy route and got himself a desk
job, but instead he chose to learn how to fly airplanes, no small task.
Better than sneaking off to Canada or go into hiding, staying in school
with the expressed purpose of avoiding being drafted.
Now we are chasing down terrorists. That is the main focus, and Bush
stated that right after 9/11. I am happy to see we finally have a
president who is doing what he says he is going to do. I don't want a
sniviling handwringing, cannot decide president, we've had a couple of
those in the past and they are worthless.
--
Fly like a Butterfly, Sting like a Bee.
Muhamned Ali
"dh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "The beneVolent dbu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > The beneVolent dbu wrote:
> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Art wrote:
> > > > > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in Sudan?
> > > > >
> > > > > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
> > > > >
> > > > > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al
> > > > > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for
> VX,
> > > > > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before the
> > > > > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has invested
> > > > > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
> > > > > Sudan."
> > > > >
> > > > > Senior State Department officials believed that they had
> received a
> > > > > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff were
> > > > > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior
> > > > > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned
> > > > > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
> > > > > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
> > > > > options."
> > > > >
> > > > > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
> > > > > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
> > > > > thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting
> al
> > > > > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and they
> > > > > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly harmless
> > > > > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet, and
> > > > > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to the
> > > > > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
> > > > > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
> > > > > [ end quote ]
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
> > > >
> > > > But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and worried
> > > > about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was ....
> > > > 9/11.
> > > >
> > > > Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is
> taking
> > > > the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares about
> > > > the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
> > >
> > >
> > > If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
> > > himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
> > > we've ever had.
> > >
> > > You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
> > >
> > > Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
> >
> > Bush is protecting your ass regardless if you are too stupid or too
> > caught up in moveondotorg to know. Bush has no regard for his own ass
> > which is what I want in a president. I only wish he could run for
> > another term.
> > --
> > Don't bite the hand that feeds you
> >
>
> First, Bush loves his own ass, dearly. That's why he sat out Viet Nam in
> his obsolete fighter plane in the Champagne Unit of the TANG and then bailed
> out of the service early.
>
> Second, by aggravating Pakistan, Bush is taking a terrible risk. The
> Pakistanis have a nuclear weapon and MOST of the Pakistani population are
> fans ob Osama bin Laden. Killing Pakistani civilians is going to put more
> pressure on Musharraf, who is not popular. One bullet, one heart attack,
> one miscalculation and that guy's history and so is our friend Pakistan and
> hello enemy Pakistan. Did I mention they have nukes? What do you suppose
> might happen to these nukes during a regime change? What might a new,
> unfriendly regime do with these nukes? What if Pakistan goes fundamentalist
> Islamic?
>
> We should be doing everything we can to make friends in Pakistan,
> particularly respecting their sovereignty, even if it means we miss an
> opportunity to kill one of OBL's many "lieutenants." We didn't exactly
> distinguish ourselves with aid after the quake.
>
> Reports now indicate that Zawahiri was not killed, anyway. Nice work, piss
> off Pakistan for nothing.
>
> We're at risk because Bush, the "windshield cowboy," doesn't think before he
> acts, doesn't consider the effects of his actions, has low regard for the
> people of other countries and lacks imagination.
>
> But he sure
Many more took off for Canada. Many more just took off. Many more
tried to stay in school as long as they could. Many others just stayed
home. Bush when he was a young man learning how to fly a high
performance aircraft had no idea he'd be where he is today. If he did
have these long range plans he would taken steps as kerry did to get
himself in a combat situation for a couple of months and then get a ear
with some congressman so he could testify and make himself a prominent
antiwar activist, make headlines, which he was successful in doing and
promote himself as a politician with eventually gaining a seat in
congress. All planned out.
Btw, the F-102 was designed as a fighter interceptor. Not very good as
a dogfighter or air support aircraft. We had many other types of
aircraft better suited for those rolls. The F-102 was still considered
a high performance aircraft then.
Btw, there were many young men who tried as best they could to avoid the
draft by getting into the National Guard and reserves. They still
served. Bush could have taken the easy route and got himself a desk
job, but instead he chose to learn how to fly airplanes, no small task.
Better than sneaking off to Canada or go into hiding, staying in school
with the expressed purpose of avoiding being drafted.
Now we are chasing down terrorists. That is the main focus, and Bush
stated that right after 9/11. I am happy to see we finally have a
president who is doing what he says he is going to do. I don't want a
sniviling handwringing, cannot decide president, we've had a couple of
those in the past and they are worthless.
--
Fly like a Butterfly, Sting like a Bee.
Muhamned Ali
G
Guest
·"The beneVolent dbu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "dh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "The beneVolent dbu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > The beneVolent dbu wrote:
>> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > > > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Art wrote:
>> > > > > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in
>> > > > > Sudan?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the
>> > > > > al
>> > > > > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical
>> > > > > for
>> VX,
>> > > > > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has
>> > > > > invested
>> > > > > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
>> > > > > Sudan."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Senior State Department officials believed that they had
>> received a
>> > > > > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff
>> > > > > were
>> > > > > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC
>> > > > > senior
>> > > > > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially
>> > > > > cautioned
>> > > > > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
>> > > > > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
>> > > > > options."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
>> > > > > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
>> > > > > thought about what might happen if the decision went against
>> > > > > hitting
>> al
>> > > > > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks
>> > > > > later.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and
>> > > > > they
>> > > > > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly
>> > > > > harmless
>> > > > > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet,
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
>> > > > > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
>> > > > > [ end quote ]
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
>> > > >
>> > > > But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and
>> > > > worried
>> > > > about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was
>> > > > ....
>> > > > 9/11.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is
>> taking
>> > > > the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares
>> > > > about
>> > > > the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
>> > > himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
>> > > we've ever had.
>> > >
>> > > You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
>> > >
>> > > Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
>> >
>> > Bush is protecting your ass regardless if you are too stupid or too
>> > caught up in moveondotorg to know. Bush has no regard for his own ass
>> > which is what I want in a president. I only wish he could run for
>> > another term.
>> > --
>> > Don't bite the hand that feeds you
>> >
>>
>> First, Bush loves his own ass, dearly. That's why he sat out Viet Nam in
>> his obsolete fighter plane in the Champagne Unit of the TANG and then
>> bailed
>> out of the service early.
>>
>> Second, by aggravating Pakistan, Bush is taking a terrible risk. The
>> Pakistanis have a nuclear weapon and MOST of the Pakistani population are
>> fans ob Osama bin Laden. Killing Pakistani civilians is going to put
>> more
>> pressure on Musharraf, who is not popular. One bullet, one heart attack,
>> one miscalculation and that guy's history and so is our friend Pakistan
>> and
>> hello enemy Pakistan. Did I mention they have nukes? What do you suppose
>> might happen to these nukes during a regime change? What might a new,
>> unfriendly regime do with these nukes? What if Pakistan goes
>> fundamentalist
>> Islamic?
>>
>> We should be doing everything we can to make friends in Pakistan,
>> particularly respecting their sovereignty, even if it means we miss an
>> opportunity to kill one of OBL's many "lieutenants." We didn't exactly
>> distinguish ourselves with aid after the quake.
>>
>> Reports now indicate that Zawahiri was not killed, anyway. Nice work,
>> piss
>> off Pakistan for nothing.
>>
>> We're at risk because Bush, the "windshield cowboy," doesn't think before
>> he
>> acts, doesn't consider the effects of his actions, has low regard for the
>> people of other countries and lacks imagination.
>>
>> But he sure
>
> Many more took off for Canada. Many more just took off. Many more
> tried to stay in school as long as they could. Many others just stayed
> home. Bush when he was a young man learning how to fly a high
> performance aircraft had no idea he'd be where he is today. If he did
> have these long range plans he would taken steps as kerry did to get
> himself in a combat situation for a couple of months and then get a ear
> with some congressman so he could testify and make himself a prominent
> antiwar activist, make headlines, which he was successful in doing and
> promote himself as a politician with eventually gaining a seat in
> congress. All planned out.
>
> Btw, the F-102 was designed as a fighter interceptor. Not very good as
> a dogfighter or air support aircraft. We had many other types of
> aircraft better suited for those rolls. The F-102 was still considered
> a high performance aircraft then.
>
> Btw, there were many young men who tried as best they could to avoid the
> draft by getting into the National Guard and reserves. They still
> served. Bush could have taken the easy route and got himself a desk
> job, but instead he chose to learn how to fly airplanes, no small task.
> Better than sneaking off to Canada or go into hiding, staying in school
> with the expressed purpose of avoiding being drafted.
>
> Now we are chasing down terrorists. That is the main focus, and Bush
> stated that right after 9/11. I am happy to see we finally have a
> president who is doing what he says he is going to do. I don't want a
> sniviling handwringing, cannot decide president, we've had a couple of
> those in the past and they are worthless.
> --
> Fly like a Butterfly, Sting like a Bee.
>
> Muhamned Ali
Up here in Canada, we've had a surrender monkey, cowardly LIEbrawl
government for the last 12 years. THAT will end on January 23rd!!
>
news:[email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "dh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "The beneVolent dbu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > The beneVolent dbu wrote:
>> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > > > "Learning Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Art wrote:
>> > > > > > I see how much intelligence has improved under Bush leadership.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anyone remember when Clinton blew up the "aspirin factory" in
>> > > > > Sudan?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The 9/11 Commission Report, page 116:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The CIA reported that a soil sample from the vicinity of the
>> > > > > al
>> > > > > Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical
>> > > > > for
>> VX,
>> > > > > a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing. Two days before
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > embassy bombings, Clarke's staff wrote that Bin Ladin "has
>> > > > > invested
>> > > > > in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in
>> > > > > Sudan."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Senior State Department officials believed that they had
>> received a
>> > > > > similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke's staff
>> > > > > were
>> > > > > probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC
>> > > > > senior
>> > > > > director responsible for intelligence programs, initially
>> > > > > cautioned
>> > > > > Berger that the "bottom line" was that "we will need much better
>> > > > > intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any
>> > > > > options."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was
>> > > > > "rather uncertain at this point." Berger has told us that he
>> > > > > thought about what might happen if the decision went against
>> > > > > hitting
>> al
>> > > > > Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks
>> > > > > later.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The Sudanese denied that al Shifa produced nerve gas, and
>> > > > > they
>> > > > > allowed journalists to visit what was left of a seemingly
>> > > > > harmless
>> > > > > facility. President Clinton,Vice President Gore, Berger,Tenet,
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > Clarke insisted to us that their judgment was right, pointing to
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > soil sample evidence. No independent evidence has emerged to
>> > > > > corroborate the CIA's assessment.
>> > > > > [ end quote ]
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Remember "tail wagging the dog"?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bush is such a blithering idiot. NUKULAR, man.
>> > > >
>> > > > But clintoon, gore and the rest of them woobly weak kneed and
>> > > > worried
>> > > > about their political asses, did not get anybody. The result was
>> > > > ....
>> > > > 9/11.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now, with a president who does not care about his own ass, he is
>> taking
>> > > > the fight to them. I am so happy we have a president that cares
>> > > > about
>> > > > the U.S. not about his own political career and legacy.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If he were worried about his legacy, he probably would've killed
>> > > himself by now. He's going down in history as the worst president
>> > > we've ever had.
>> > >
>> > > You vote for him? You must be pretty embarrassed.
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > learning, why don't you shut up and go bake some cookies.
>> > >
>> > > Awww now wipe those tears away big boy
>> >
>> > Bush is protecting your ass regardless if you are too stupid or too
>> > caught up in moveondotorg to know. Bush has no regard for his own ass
>> > which is what I want in a president. I only wish he could run for
>> > another term.
>> > --
>> > Don't bite the hand that feeds you
>> >
>>
>> First, Bush loves his own ass, dearly. That's why he sat out Viet Nam in
>> his obsolete fighter plane in the Champagne Unit of the TANG and then
>> bailed
>> out of the service early.
>>
>> Second, by aggravating Pakistan, Bush is taking a terrible risk. The
>> Pakistanis have a nuclear weapon and MOST of the Pakistani population are
>> fans ob Osama bin Laden. Killing Pakistani civilians is going to put
>> more
>> pressure on Musharraf, who is not popular. One bullet, one heart attack,
>> one miscalculation and that guy's history and so is our friend Pakistan
>> and
>> hello enemy Pakistan. Did I mention they have nukes? What do you suppose
>> might happen to these nukes during a regime change? What might a new,
>> unfriendly regime do with these nukes? What if Pakistan goes
>> fundamentalist
>> Islamic?
>>
>> We should be doing everything we can to make friends in Pakistan,
>> particularly respecting their sovereignty, even if it means we miss an
>> opportunity to kill one of OBL's many "lieutenants." We didn't exactly
>> distinguish ourselves with aid after the quake.
>>
>> Reports now indicate that Zawahiri was not killed, anyway. Nice work,
>> piss
>> off Pakistan for nothing.
>>
>> We're at risk because Bush, the "windshield cowboy," doesn't think before
>> he
>> acts, doesn't consider the effects of his actions, has low regard for the
>> people of other countries and lacks imagination.
>>
>> But he sure
>
> Many more took off for Canada. Many more just took off. Many more
> tried to stay in school as long as they could. Many others just stayed
> home. Bush when he was a young man learning how to fly a high
> performance aircraft had no idea he'd be where he is today. If he did
> have these long range plans he would taken steps as kerry did to get
> himself in a combat situation for a couple of months and then get a ear
> with some congressman so he could testify and make himself a prominent
> antiwar activist, make headlines, which he was successful in doing and
> promote himself as a politician with eventually gaining a seat in
> congress. All planned out.
>
> Btw, the F-102 was designed as a fighter interceptor. Not very good as
> a dogfighter or air support aircraft. We had many other types of
> aircraft better suited for those rolls. The F-102 was still considered
> a high performance aircraft then.
>
> Btw, there were many young men who tried as best they could to avoid the
> draft by getting into the National Guard and reserves. They still
> served. Bush could have taken the easy route and got himself a desk
> job, but instead he chose to learn how to fly airplanes, no small task.
> Better than sneaking off to Canada or go into hiding, staying in school
> with the expressed purpose of avoiding being drafted.
>
> Now we are chasing down terrorists. That is the main focus, and Bush
> stated that right after 9/11. I am happy to see we finally have a
> president who is doing what he says he is going to do. I don't want a
> sniviling handwringing, cannot decide president, we've had a couple of
> those in the past and they are worthless.
> --
> Fly like a Butterfly, Sting like a Bee.
>
> Muhamned Ali
Up here in Canada, we've had a surrender monkey, cowardly LIEbrawl
government for the last 12 years. THAT will end on January 23rd!!
>
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