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Dean: US Won't Win in Iraq


LAST UPDATE: 12/6/2005 6:20:37 AM
Posted By: Jim Forsyth
This story is available on your cell phone at mobile.woai.com.

(SAN ANTONIO) -- Saying the "idea that we're going to win the war in
Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong," Democratic National
Chairman Howard Dean predicted today that the Democratic Party will
come together on a proposal to withdraw National Guard and Reserve
troops immediately, and all US forces within two years.

Dean made his comments in an interview on WOAI Radio in San Antonio.

Click here to listen to the complete interview.

"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had
in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay
the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and
this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we
were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."

Dean says the Democrat position on the war is 'coalescing,' and is
likely to include several proposals.

"I think we need a strategic redeployment over a period of two years,"
Dean said. "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home
immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway. We
ought to have a redeployment to Afghanistan of 20,000 troops, we don't
have enough troops to do the job there and its a place where we are
welcome. And we need a force in the Middle East, not in Iraq but in a
friendly neighboring country to fight (terrorist leader Musab)
Zarqawi, who came to Iraq after this invasion. We've got to get the
target off the backs of American troops.

Dean didn't specify which country the US forces would deploy to, but
he said he would like to see the entire process completed within two
years. He said the Democrat proposal is not a 'withdrawal,' but rather
a 'strategic redeployment' of U.S. forces.

"The White House wants us to have a permanent commitment to Iraq. This
is an Iraqi problem. President Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and that
was a great thing, but that could have been done in a very different
way. But now that we're there we need to figure out how to leave. 80%
of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."

Dean also compared the controversy over pre-war intelligence to the
Watergate scandal which brought down Richard Nixon's presidency in
1974.

"What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate,"
Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that
President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for
the power to go to war. The President said last week that Congress saw
the same intelligence that he did in making the decision to go to war,
and that is flat out wrong. The President withheld some intelligence
from the Senate Intelligence Committee. He withheld the report from
the CIA that in fact there was no evidence of weapons of mass
destruction (in Iraq), that they did not have a nuclear program. They
(the White House) selectively gave intelligence to the United States
Senate and the United States Congress and got them to give the go
ahead to attack these people."
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Scott in Florida
 
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Re: OT Dean says we will lose Iraq. Great move Dean....the end of the Democrats!

Scott in Florida, 12/6/2005, 1:11:36 PM,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Dean: US Won't Win in Iraq


It sure looks like Howard Dean has taken the job of propoganist for Al
Qaeda. Talk about giving aid and comfort to the enemy...

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Re: OT Dean says we will lose Iraq. Great move Dean....the end of the Democrats!

On 06 Dec 2005 18:33:24 GMT, "badgolferman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Scott in Florida, 12/6/2005, 1:11:36 PM,
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dean: US Won't Win in Iraq

>
>It sure looks like Howard Dean has taken the job of propoganist for Al
>Qaeda. Talk about giving aid and comfort to the enemy...


Sure does....

That leads to a loss by Democrats in 06 and 08 ... big time.

I am soooo glad we selected Dean to head up the Dems...

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Scott in Florida
 
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In article <[email protected]>,
Scott in Florida <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=C36A87B9-63A0-4CDE-AA91-B
> 41571AFD3AF
>
> Dean: US Won't Win in Iraq
>
>
> LAST UPDATE: 12/6/2005 6:20:37 AM
> Posted By: Jim Forsyth
> This story is available on your cell phone at mobile.woai.com.
>
> (SAN ANTONIO) -- Saying the "idea that we're going to win the war in
> Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong," Democratic National
> Chairman Howard Dean predicted today that the Democratic Party will
> come together on a proposal to withdraw National Guard and Reserve
> troops immediately, and all US forces within two years.
>
> Dean made his comments in an interview on WOAI Radio in San Antonio.
>
> Click here to listen to the complete interview.
>
> "I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had
> in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay
> the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and
> this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we
> were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."
>
> Dean says the Democrat position on the war is 'coalescing,' and is
> likely to include several proposals.
>
> "I think we need a strategic redeployment over a period of two years,"
> Dean said. "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home
> immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway. We
> ought to have a redeployment to Afghanistan of 20,000 troops, we don't
> have enough troops to do the job there and its a place where we are
> welcome. And we need a force in the Middle East, not in Iraq but in a
> friendly neighboring country to fight (terrorist leader Musab)
> Zarqawi, who came to Iraq after this invasion. We've got to get the
> target off the backs of American troops.
>
> Dean didn't specify which country the US forces would deploy to, but
> he said he would like to see the entire process completed within two
> years. He said the Democrat proposal is not a 'withdrawal,' but rather
> a 'strategic redeployment' of U.S. forces.
>
> "The White House wants us to have a permanent commitment to Iraq. This
> is an Iraqi problem. President Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and that
> was a great thing, but that could have been done in a very different
> way. But now that we're there we need to figure out how to leave. 80%
> of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."
>
> Dean also compared the controversy over pre-war intelligence to the
> Watergate scandal which brought down Richard Nixon's presidency in
> 1974.
>
> "What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate,"
> Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that
> President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for
> the power to go to war. The President said last week that Congress saw
> the same intelligence that he did in making the decision to go to war,
> and that is flat out wrong. The President withheld some intelligence
> from the Senate Intelligence Committee. He withheld the report from
> the CIA that in fact there was no evidence of weapons of mass
> destruction (in Iraq), that they did not have a nuclear program. They
> (the White House) selectively gave intelligence to the United States
> Senate and the United States Congress and got them to give the go
> ahead to attack these people."


If the democrate party were half smart they'd dump this jackass before
it's way too late. Like, lets shutoff the lights now and at least save
some electricity.
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