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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Man fired for taking candy from trash for his kids

Canadian Press
Dec. 20, 2005 10:21 AM

ST-HYACINTHE, Que. - A single father of three fired for taking chocolate
bars from a garbage bin at a Zellers store will get some Christmas cheer
from a charitable organization.

Guy Masse, 47, had planned to give the discarded chocolate to his children,
ages six, nine and 15, for Christmas.

Masse, who was on welfare and had been working at the store only for a
couple of months, was first suspended and then fired.
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"I think it's inhuman," Masse told CJAD radio station in Montreal of his dismissal.

Zellers has said Masse should have notified his superviser that he was
taking the chocolate out of the garbage at the St-Hyacinthe store, about
50 kilometres east of Montreal.

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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by Zellers
seems arbitrary.

Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and so
put it in the trash.

It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.

It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency protects
him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted chocolates
to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the view that Zellers
found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.

It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.

Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?

My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
for the holidays.

- Jack
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:36:03 -0500, "Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Since this father of three did his employer no harm,


So now stealing is no harm? Neat!

>the action by Zellers seems arbitrary.


Not if their policy is to fire thieves. Who knows what else he stole
before he got caught?


>Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and so
>put it in the trash.


It's Zellers trash. All the dude had to do is ask.

>
>It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>
>It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage.


Probable? So you don't really know.


> No agency protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor.


Sort of like "right to work" here. In other words, they could fire
him for any reason, they just chose the theft.

>He took the wasted chocolates to give to his children for Christmas.


He _TOOK_. That's the point.


> One might take the view that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.


One might take the view that they evenly enforced their work rules.

>It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well.


He should have thought about that before he tried to walk out without
asking, eh?


>Welfare is mostly given over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store.


You're supposing, right? How do you know how much he pays in rent?
Maybe he spends the money on crack.

>It will be very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.


You mean hard to find a job after stealing, no?

>Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
>didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?


I think they should have filed charges.

>Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?


Complementing them on doing the right thing? Sure!

>
>My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
>for the holidays.


Do you steal stuff too?
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by Zellers
> seems arbitrary.
>
> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and
> so put it in the trash.
>
> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>
> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted
> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the view
> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>
> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.
>
> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>
> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
> for the holidays.
>
> - Jack
>

Well put - and backatcha!

Natalie
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>>
>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by Zellers
>> seems arbitrary.
>>
>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and
>> so put it in the trash.
>>
>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>
>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted
>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the view
>> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>
>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.
>>
>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
>> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>
>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
>> for the holidays.
>>
>> - Jack
>>

>Well put - and backatcha!


So you think stealing is cool too? No shock there.


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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:23 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]
>>>
>>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by Zellers
>>> seems arbitrary.
>>>
>>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and
>>> so put it in the trash.
>>>
>>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>>
>>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted
>>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the view
>>> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>>
>>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
>>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
>>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.
>>>
>>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
>>> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>>> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>>
>>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
>>> for the holidays.
>>>
>>> - Jack
>>>

>>Well put - and backatcha!

>
> So you think stealing is cool too? No shock there.



What did he steal? Garbage?
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
"Vash The Stampede" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:23 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by
>>>> Zellers
>>>> seems arbitrary.
>>>>
>>>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product
>>>> and
>>>> so put it in the trash.
>>>>
>>>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>>>
>>>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>>>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the
>>>> wasted
>>>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the
>>>> view
>>>> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>>>
>>>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>>>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly
>>>> given
>>>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will
>>>> be
>>>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous
>>>> employer.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if
>>>> people
>>>> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>>>> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>>>
>>>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best
>>>> wishes
>>>> for the holidays.
>>>>
>>>> - Jack
>>>>
>>>Well put - and backatcha!

>>
>> So you think stealing is cool too? No shock there.

>
>
> What did he steal? Garbage?


Yes - he stole garbage! He should be shot!

I wish Burnore could just move on, but he can't resist reading my posts.

Natalie
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 03:21:16 GMT, Vash The Stampede <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:23 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by Zellers
>>>> seems arbitrary.
>>>>
>>>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and
>>>> so put it in the trash.
>>>>
>>>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>>>
>>>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>>>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted
>>>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the view
>>>> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>>>
>>>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>>>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
>>>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
>>>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
>>>> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>>>> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>>>
>>>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
>>>> for the holidays.
>>>>
>>>> - Jack
>>>>
>>>Well put - and backatcha!

>>
>> So you think stealing is cool too? No shock there.

>
>
>What did he steal?


It doesn't really matter. He stole. He got caught. He got fired. My
bet is that the theft of candy wasn't his first or only offense. Most
likely just the last.


> Garbage?


Supposedly.
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:52:41 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Vash The Stampede" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:p[email protected]
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:23 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by
>>>>> Zellers
>>>>> seems arbitrary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product
>>>>> and
>>>>> so put it in the trash.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>>>>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the
>>>>> wasted
>>>>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the
>>>>> view
>>>>> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>>>>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly
>>>>> given
>>>>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will
>>>>> be
>>>>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous
>>>>> employer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if
>>>>> people
>>>>> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>>>>> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>>>>
>>>>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best
>>>>> wishes
>>>>> for the holidays.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jack
>>>>>
>>>>Well put - and backatcha!
>>>
>>> So you think stealing is cool too? No shock there.

>>
>>
>> What did he steal? Garbage?

>
>Yes - he stole garbage! He should be shot!


No, not shot. Fired? Yes. Shrinkage costs everyone in higher
prices.


>I wish Burnore could just move on, but he can't resist reading my posts.


Poor little bitch. Too bad you can't ignore _ME_. :)
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
"Gary L. Burnore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:52:41 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Vash The Stampede" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:p[email protected]
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:23 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by
>>>>>> Zellers
>>>>>> seems arbitrary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> so put it in the trash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>>>>>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the
>>>>>> wasted
>>>>>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the
>>>>>> view
>>>>>> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>>>>>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly
>>>>>> given
>>>>>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous
>>>>>> employer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>>>>>> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best
>>>>>> wishes
>>>>>> for the holidays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Jack
>>>>>>
>>>>>Well put - and backatcha!
>>>>
>>>> So you think stealing is cool too? No shock there.
>>>
>>>
>>> What did he steal? Garbage?

>>
>>Yes - he stole garbage! He should be shot!

>
> No, not shot. Fired? Yes. Shrinkage costs everyone in higher
> prices.
>
>
>>I wish Burnore could just move on, but he can't resist reading my posts.

>
> Poor little bitch. Too bad you can't ignore _ME_. :)


Poor or not, THAT little bitch will get laid this Christmas season. You
won't, unless you pay for it.




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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:26:56 GMT, "Sharx35" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Gary L. Burnore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:52:41 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Vash The Stampede" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:p[email protected]
>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:23 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:[email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by
>>>>>>> Zellers
>>>>>>> seems arbitrary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> so put it in the trash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>>>>>>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the
>>>>>>> wasted
>>>>>>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the
>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>>>>>>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly
>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous
>>>>>>> employer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>>>>>>> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best
>>>>>>> wishes
>>>>>>> for the holidays.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Jack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well put - and backatcha!
>>>>>
>>>>> So you think stealing is cool too? No shock there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What did he steal? Garbage?
>>>
>>>Yes - he stole garbage! He should be shot!

>>
>> No, not shot. Fired? Yes. Shrinkage costs everyone in higher
>> prices.
>>
>>
>>>I wish Burnore could just move on, but he can't resist reading my posts.

>>
>> Poor little bitch. Too bad you can't ignore _ME_. :)

>
>Poor or not, THAT little bitch will get laid this Christmas season.


So she's a whore. big deal.

>You won't, unless you pay for it.


That's not what my wife says. Bad guess, dip.
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> Man fired for taking candy from trash for his kids
>

Unfortunatley, while it is trash, it is either Zellers trash, or the
cities trash, not his trash.

He stole. Crap rules I know, but rules is rules.
I know when I worked for Safeway, similar rules were in place for
"stale" cakes and bread. It would be recorded then trashed and claimed
back as spoilage against insurance.

To get fired he most likley got caught more than once. I don't think any
supervisor or manager is that evil these days to do anyone based on a 1
offence.
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
"NeedforSwede2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>>
>> Man fired for taking candy from trash for his kids
>>

> Unfortunatley, while it is trash, it is either Zellers trash, or the
> cities trash, not his trash.
>
> He stole. Crap rules I know, but rules is rules.
> I know when I worked for Safeway, similar rules were in place for
> "stale" cakes and bread. It would be recorded then trashed and claimed
> back as spoilage against insurance.
>

Claimed back against insurance? They were pulling your leg. I guarantee
you that Safeway was self insured for millions of bucks. Big companies
don't buy thousand dollar deductible policies.

Many stores give day old bread to soup kitchens. Same with restaurants.
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:51:58 GMT, "Art"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"NeedforSwede2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>>
>>> Man fired for taking candy from trash for his kids
>>>

>> Unfortunatley, while it is trash, it is either Zellers trash, or the
>> cities trash, not his trash.
>>
>> He stole. Crap rules I know, but rules is rules.
>> I know when I worked for Safeway, similar rules were in place for
>> "stale" cakes and bread. It would be recorded then trashed and claimed
>> back as spoilage against insurance.
>>

>Claimed back against insurance?


Not THAt kind of insurance. The bread co's give a sort of insurance
on what's not sold. Paying the store some for the trouble. Store has
to certify the stuff wasn't sold/given away.

>They were pulling your leg. I guarantee
>you that Safeway was self insured for millions of bucks.



Where, exactly, did he say anything about deductables?

> Big companies
>don't buy thousand dollar deductible policies.
>
>Many stores give day old bread to soup kitchens. Same with restaurants.
>

That, of course, depends on the contract with the supplier.
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by Zellers
> seems arbitrary.
>
> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and
> so put it in the trash.
>
> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>
> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted
> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the view
> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>
> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.
>
> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>
> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
> for the holidays.
>
> - Jack

Are you sure you know all the facts he may have damaged the goods in the
first place just so they would be trashed and being as this sounds like a
store trashing story they wouldn't mention any suspicion of that. also who
do you think would have ended up paying out if this guy's kids got sick from
eating those chocolates.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
"Gary L. Burnore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:52:41 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Vash The Stampede" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:p[email protected]
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:23 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by
>>>>>> Zellers
>>>>>> seems arbitrary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> so put it in the trash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>>>>>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the
>>>>>> wasted
>>>>>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the
>>>>>> view
>>>>>> that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>>>>>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly
>>>>>> given
>>>>>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous
>>>>>> employer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>>>>>> Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best
>>>>>> wishes
>>>>>> for the holidays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Jack
>>>>>>
>>>>>Well put - and backatcha!
>>>>
>>>> So you think stealing is cool too? No shock there.
>>>
>>>
>>> What did he steal? Garbage?

>>
>>Yes - he stole garbage! He should be shot!

>
> No, not shot. Fired? Yes. Shrinkage costs everyone in higher
> prices.


Shrinkage? it was in the DUMPSTER! It was already a write-off! So, the Rats
didn't get it!

>
>
>>I wish Burnore could just move on, but he can't resist reading my posts.

>
> Poor little bitch. Too bad you can't ignore _ME_. :)
> --
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
"Dwayne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by
>> Zellers seems arbitrary.
>>
>> Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and
>> so put it in the trash.
>>
>> It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>
>> It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency
>> protects him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted
>> chocolates to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the
>> view that Zellers found it is easy to beat up on someone who is
>> powerless.
>>
>> It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>> nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
>> over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
>> very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous
>> employer.
>>
>> Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if
>> people didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your
>> opinion? Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>
>> My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
>> for the holidays.
>>
>> - Jack

> Are you sure you know all the facts he may have damaged the goods in the
> first place just so they would be trashed and being as this sounds like a
> store trashing story they wouldn't mention any suspicion of that. also who
> do you think would have ended up paying out if this guy's kids got sick
> from eating those chocolates.


That's taking it a little far. Chocolate doesn't really go bad. It does get
stale.

>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by Zellers
>seems arbitrary.
>
>Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and so
>put it in the trash.
>
>It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>
>It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency protects
>him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted chocolates
>to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the view that Zellers
>found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>
>It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
>over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
>very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.
>
>Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
>didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>
>My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
>for the holidays.
>
>- Jack
>


Jack, I think that this situation is a supervisor's nightmare.
There's also little doubt that the candy manufacturer doesn't
want any of it's product which becomes stale or damaged to be
distributed to the public so I'm sure that the candy manufacturer
has a very strict agreement with the vendor to trash any of it's
product which is less than pristine.

So it's really not the vendor's fault for enforcing the rule. Can
you imagine the problem if someone ate a stale choc. bar, became
sick and died?, If it were proven that the bar had been very
stale then the lawsuit could be huge. The manufacturer (and
possibly the vendor too) wouldn't have a leg to stand on would
he?.

So it's perhaps not the 'big bad Zellers' after all is it?.
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:17:14 GMT, Gord Beaman <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Ralph" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Since this father of three did his employer no harm, the action by Zellers
>>seems arbitrary.
>>
>>Zellers had already decided that it could not sell the stale product and so
>>put it in the trash.
>>
>>It is not good to waste things, and it is better to recycle.
>>
>>It is probable that Zellers paid Mr. Masse minimum wage. No agency protects
>>him from arbitrary actions by a supervisor. He took the wasted chocolates
>>to give to his children for Christmas. One might take the view that Zellers
>>found it is easy to beat up on someone who is powerless.
>>
>>It will be a bleak Christmas for Guy Masse's six-year-old child, his
>>nine-year-old and maybe the 15-year-old as well. Welfare is mostly given
>>over to the landlord, with a bit left for the grocery store. It will be
>>very hard to find another job following a firing by the previous employer.
>>
>>Perhaps this chain-store might reverse this inappropriate action if people
>>didn't shop there until they re-hire Mr. Masse. What's your opinion?
>>Perhaps a phone call (or letter) to head office?
>>
>>My thanks to group members for your wise automotive help, and best wishes
>>for the holidays.
>>
>>- Jack
>>

>
>Jack, I think that this situation is a supervisor's nightmare.
>There's also little doubt that the candy manufacturer doesn't
>want any of it's product which becomes stale or damaged to be
>distributed to the public so I'm sure that the candy manufacturer
>has a very strict agreement with the vendor to trash any of it's
>product which is less than pristine.
>
>So it's really not the vendor's fault for enforcing the rule. Can
>you imagine the problem if someone ate a stale choc. bar, became
>sick and died?, If it were proven that the bar had been very
>stale then the lawsuit could be huge. The manufacturer (and
>possibly the vendor too) wouldn't have a leg to stand on would
>he?.
>
>So it's perhaps not the 'big bad Zellers' after all is it?.


Moreover, were it "ok" to take it from the trash, you'd likely find a
LOT more going into the trash. "Hey, it's trash!"

Funny thing is, many of those who are up in arms about this guy
getting canned are the same ones who think it's ok for Frist to take
free shit while bitching about people on welfare.

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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:59:49 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:52:41 -0500, "Wickeddoll®"
><[email protected]> wrote:


<snip>

>>I wish Burnore could just move on, but he can't resist reading my posts.

>
>Poor little bitch.


I think you have a role reversal issue.

> Too bad you can't ignore _ME_. :)


Control issues much?

-LMB
 
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