I have received numerous requests for how to make the v06.1 Navi DVD w/ the version 5.1 override capability. You will need to author a Dual Layer DVD+R w/ all the files from your v6.1 NAV DVD & replace the v6.1 loading .kwi w/ the v5.1 loading.kwi in the main directory of the DVD.
Look for the download button in the mess of all the ads ... sorry needed free file hosing for a 46MB file & this is the best I could do!
once you burn this new "hybrid" DVD, you can do the volume screen service menu procedure to get to the override button!
Good Luck ... this took a few tries to get it right, but I can verify that this procedure DOES Work ... I have been running this "hybrid" dvd now for about a month now on my XLE w/ no problems!!!:whatwhat:
I'm sorry ... but there is no way to prove that you own the v06.1 DVD, so by me sending out copies to people, I would be condoning FRAUD ... and I DO NOT condone software piracy!
I will however supply everyone with the v05.1 LOADING.KWI file, which is all that is necessary to mke yourself the new DVD w/ the OverRide Capability!
If you do not own a Dual Layer DVD Burner, I suggest that you go out and purchase one. I build & repair computers as my side-job, so I will give everyone a link to my wholesaler's website: www.antaresdigital.com ... If you would like to order a DL DVD+RW, it is very cheap ...
compare this to CompUSA/BestBuy ... she is the cheapest that I've found around ... even check PriceWatch.com ... whereever you can get it cheapest ... go for it.
If you want to order... call their Toll-Free Number (888-269-8868) ... and Speak to Lili & she'll hook you up!
I'm only forwarding this info to anyone looking to upgrade for cheap ... I am posting this site as giving my feedback that they are a legit business w/ grest service ... I am not affiliated with or gain anything by you purchasing from here ... buy here ... buy somewhere else ... I DON'T CARE ... just offering my technical expertise!
1. Copy all file from v6.1 dic to a folder on your Hard Drive
2. Replace the LOADING.KWI in the folder on your hard drive w/ the one I've provided!
3. Use Nero (or your favorite software) to create a DATA DVD (Dual Layer of Course)
4. Add all the files from your folder to the DVD & BURN IT.
5. Remove your old NAV DVD & replace it w/ the freshly burned DVD into your NAVI (in car).
6. Do the volume screen override
Press Menu (menu screen appears)
Press Volume (volume screen appears)
Press upper left corner Press lower left corner Press upper left corner Press lower left corner
(Service Menu will appear)
Press and hold Over Ride for a few seconds
NOTE: If you are unable to get the SERVICE MENU up w/ the above procedure, this means you are still running v06.1 firmware ... please disconnect your NEGATIVE BATTERY TERMINAL & let the car sit for about 5 minutes ... then reconnect. This will clear out the NAVI's memory & when it comes back on, it will have to reload the firmware from your newly burned DVD, then the procedure should work!!
I checked the alldata.kwi & file size of the v6.1 is 2.23GB
It is going to say data version 5.1 because the firmware (Loading.kwi) is still the v6.1, but the map data is the new map data v6.1
All this "hack" is doing is using the new v6.1 map data, but retaining the v5.1 firmware, which doesn't have the service menu disabled, and hence still allows us access to the override button.
I got ya ... I myself asked the dealer to order the new DVD under the TSB ... they gave me BS that it was backordered and I said fine ... order it & call me when it comes in ... to this day ... still on backorder according to them!
I think the whole TSB is bull ... My car has never shown up in the wrong place on the map .. and if it does ... all you have to do is recalibrate the GPS ... no need for a new disc.
My thoughts are that Toyota knows that people found access to the Service Menu & I believe that this TSB is their "fix" to prevent them from lawsuits. As far as the data version is concerned ... they are only replacing teh disc that was "defective" ... so they are replacing the v5.1 w/ an "updated" v5.1 ... you honestly didn't expect them to give you the milk for free when they could sell you the cow !!
I got my 6.1 maps working with the v5 LOADING.KWI file. I tested the DVD, and it works.
But I still can't access the menu. I figure I need to get the Navi to get the new firmware.
So I was reading about pulling fuses, but which fuse? My manual doesn't list anything other than the fuse box locations. I don't really want to disconnect the battery.
there are no fuses to pull ... disconnect the negative terminal on you battery for a few minutes & reconnect ... when you turn the car on, the navi unit will reload the firmware from the dvd ... have your new burned dvd in the drive & it will reload the old firmware!
...This may mean that with the older firmware you might not be able to get SAT radio (that would be my first gusss) or other things added to the 07. Since I am not going to get SAT radio, I went ahead and did this and will run it until such a time as other solutions are found for the newer firmware. Hope this helps anyone else trying to do this.
That makes no sense at all ... if i chose to pay for SAT radio, i could get it as an option on my 07 XLE w/ nav ... build date 03/06 ... originally w/ v5.1 firmware, so this poit is discredited!
Just a heads up, your procedure about using NERO is only partially right, as Nero will NOT create a UFD/ISO 9660 DVD version 3. This has created a lot of confusion, and a lot of expensive costers.
You're all welcome ... If any of you are looking for another valuable & relatively inexpensive mod ... click on the BackupCamera Link in my sig ... Eclipse BEC-105 camera will plug directly into the toyota nav wiring harness & work flawlessly when you put your car in reverse ... I believe it only cost $160 or $180 shipped!!
I wanted to let you know the configuration that worked for me. It worked like a charm on the first time, so I have no expensive coasters sitting around. I used a newer HP laptop with Windows Vista operating system, HP DVD +R Double Layer 2.4X disc, the HP included MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-8505 ATA Device burner, and HP included ROXIO Easy Media Creator Basic v9.
I followed the instructions of pillpusher-
1. I downloaded the program he provided.
2. I opened the DVD, Hit Ctrl-A (Select All), Ctrl-C (Copy), and then pasted that into a "newly created folder" in my documents.
3. I then copied the program provided by pillpusher and pasted it into the folder that possessed the files from the disc. I clicked replace existing file.
4. I opened Roxio and clicked data disc. I hit Ctrl-A in the "newly created folder" in my documents. I then drug them to Roxio and hit burn.
5. An hour or so later my disc popped out of the computer, I put it in the car, disconnected the battery cable, reconnected it, and tadah.
Note: I did not name the disc I created the same as the Toyota disc that came out of the car, so that is not likely your problem if you can't get this to work.
I wanted to say thanks to Pillpusher for hooking us up with the program and instructions. I'm not very computer literate and it was relatively simple to do. Thanks. Good luck to everyone else who tries this.
No problem! My next thing is to get DVD Video on the NAVI Screen ... I'll let everyone know when that's tackled ... sometime late this summer probably!
Everytime that your car losed power to the NAVI unit ... the NAVI loses it's firmware version. If the NAVI doesn't have firmware already loaded, it will look to the DVD to load the firmware into memory upon startup of the vehicle. What this procedure does is build a new DVD that encompasses two important things ... 1. The v6.1 MAP Data(Most up-to-date version) 2. v5.1 firmware that has the Volume Screen Diagnostics menu access, which allows you to press & hold the override button ... giving access to all the greyed out functions on the NAVI that you would normally not have access to while driving ... ie. destination input, BT functions, etc.
The NAVI unit will only load new firmware after power has been left off for a while ... so once the firmware is loaded, and you power down the car normally without disconnecting the battery, it keeps the firmware in memory. There is no limit to how many times you can "flash" the unit, as it's not being "flashed" persay ... it's just loading firmware ... like when you're computer boots up, it loads the opearing system!
There's a lot of duplicate work posted at the Club Lexus forums. If you're interested in the Nav hack (AKA "Hybrid" DVD), I wrote a detailed procedure for doing this same thing last year on September 24, 2006 at the following link:
I even called my DVD a "Hybrid DVD" just like PillPusher. Odd, huh? In fact, there's a lot of meat'n'taters over there that would apply to a lot of the questions you've been asking in this thread - stuff about why some DVD's work and others won't, which programs to use (NOT Nero), how to disassemble a KWI file, etc... Have a look:
Also, I'd like to say that I thought it was blindingly hypocritical for PillPusher84 to first say he doesn't condone software piracy and then turn around and publically post copyrighted firmware in the next sentence of the same post. I guess it's "OK" to pirate some things, but not others? Riiiight... Do what you like, I suppose, but know that if you download that firmware and burn a hybrid DVD and you aren't a legal owner of v5.1, you are in fact pirating software - even if you don't condone software piracy... or plagiarism.
I posted a link in my original thread for NAV Hack that linked to your post on the Club Lexus Forum .... so I don't see what the mystery is .... the credit has been given to you .... and notwhere in my posts have I claimed the HACK to be from my own creation whatsoever!
Have you tried the 6.1 method of accessing the service menu? The problem I had with the 6.1 method is that I couldn't find override anywhere, and exiting the service menu rebooted the NAV system (so if override were enabled, it'd get cleared on the reboot).
Just FYI, here's how you get in with the 6.1 method:
1) Turn headlights off
2) Turn on NAV unit
3) Hold down "Info" button while performing steps 4 through 9
4) Turn parking lights on
5) Turn parking lights off
6) Turn parking lights on
7) Turn parking lights off
8) Turn parking lights on
9) Turn parking lights off
And to exit the service menu, hold down the "Display" button for 5 seconds.
Nice to know in case we need it in the future ..... we'll have to find out where that damn override is located .... unless they totally removed it??!?!??!
Does this method work on Scions? I am assuming it is the same NAV system. I was able to get into the diagnostic mode by doing the proceedure mentioned for 6.1 (hold down info, and click on and off your parking lights 3 times), so it has to be the same stuff. Has anyone heard of someone successfully making a hybrid disk for a Scion?
Anyways, I have been trying to get the hybrid disk working. My first couple attempts were to skip the 1 to 1 copy test and just go for it using ImgBurn. After making a couple coasters, I decided to try out a 1 to 1 copy of my 6.1 DVD. Same results, the system doesn't recognize it. The media I am using is Memorex DVD+R DL 2.4x. I noticed someone here got it working with those, so I don't know why the exact copy wouldn't load. I made the copy by doing a simple ImgBurn read, followed by an ImgBurn write. Pretty straight forward. Should I try a different type of media?
One last thing: The LOADING.KWI on my DVD is only 25.3MB compared to the 45.8MB file supplied. So once I get the 1 to 1 copy working, I still may need to find a compatible LOADING.KWI. My thought are that since the Scion doesnt have bluetooth/backup cam/voice commands, it has a stripped down loader. What do you guys think?
What Nav Data Version do you have .... the 07 Camry uses the U30/U31 if I'm not mistaken ... look on your original NAV Data Disc and tell me what U## version you have?
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