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Peeling Paint 2018 Camry. Toyota won’t fix it! This should be a recall!
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it's the shitty plastic Toyota is using... a body shop owner told me about he has to work with it. Wish they would stop being cheap and put a couple bucks into the cars, we can pay a few dollars more for higher quality. it is not like the Japanese will go broke,, cheap **
Toyota usually won't do anything especially out of warranty for either time or miles.
The one's with most paint issues are the whites and pearls some of which are tri-coat paint jobs vs. the standard 2 stage paint on most cars.
Interesting the one NHTSA complaint I found looks to be the same color.
The one's with most paint issues are the whites and pearls some of which are tri-coat paint jobs vs. the standard 2 stage paint on most cars.
Interesting the one NHTSA complaint I found looks to be the same color.
2018 Toyota Camry Paint Chipping/Peeling
The 2018 Toyota Camry has 1 problems reported for paint chipping/peeling. Average failure mileage is 25,000 miles.
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Wow. How many miles are on that red Camry?
The quality of Toyota paint has fallen over the past decade for a few reasons, cost, environmental regulations, and so on.
A lot of manufacturers are experiencing the same issues with paint on newer cars. Each new Toyota that I buy has paint that is slightly worse than the Toyota that it replaced. The paint on my 1998 Camry was pretty great- and still looked good for the most part after 100,000 miles. The 2007 Camry that replaced it had paint that chipped pretty easily from rocks or other road debris. I noticed the first scratch in my 2022 Highlander within about two weeks of buying it.
I don't think that a recall is in the cards. Recalls are generally for safety-related defects. Toyota could extend the warranty or offer a service campaign for the paint- but that's doubtful. Toyota did extend the warranty on the paint of some colors/models- but the 2018+ Camrys weren't included. It generally was their Blizzard Pearl paint that was used on a bunch of different models that caused the most problems.
That red Camry is the worst that I've seen of the 2018-2023 Camry generation. I just had a 2021 Camry SE in that color as a rental- it had 61,000 miles on it and the paint looked pretty rough- with lots of weird scratches and chips. Strangely- none of them were in the normal places that you'd expect to find them- the hood/front bumper/mirrors still looked pretty good.
Since Toyota charges $400 for this red color- you'd think that it would hold up a bit better.
The quality of Toyota paint has fallen over the past decade for a few reasons, cost, environmental regulations, and so on.
A lot of manufacturers are experiencing the same issues with paint on newer cars. Each new Toyota that I buy has paint that is slightly worse than the Toyota that it replaced. The paint on my 1998 Camry was pretty great- and still looked good for the most part after 100,000 miles. The 2007 Camry that replaced it had paint that chipped pretty easily from rocks or other road debris. I noticed the first scratch in my 2022 Highlander within about two weeks of buying it.
I don't think that a recall is in the cards. Recalls are generally for safety-related defects. Toyota could extend the warranty or offer a service campaign for the paint- but that's doubtful. Toyota did extend the warranty on the paint of some colors/models- but the 2018+ Camrys weren't included. It generally was their Blizzard Pearl paint that was used on a bunch of different models that caused the most problems.
That red Camry is the worst that I've seen of the 2018-2023 Camry generation. I just had a 2021 Camry SE in that color as a rental- it had 61,000 miles on it and the paint looked pretty rough- with lots of weird scratches and chips. Strangely- none of them were in the normal places that you'd expect to find them- the hood/front bumper/mirrors still looked pretty good.
Since Toyota charges $400 for this red color- you'd think that it would hold up a bit better.
Is that the same car?
That looks like the same car?
Just so you know a small $500 to PPF your bumper, fenders and hood would have protected your paint better.
Probably even cheaper if you shop around, but too late in your case.
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Many car companies have switched to eco cheapo paints that they're having problems with. They're required to use it for anticipation of when the car eventually makes it to the graveyard. Old school paints had chemicals in them that would create an environmental concern where as new paint seems to be biodegradable i suppose. Lol recall? No i don't think that's what recalls are intended to do. TSB- is what you're looking for. Carcomplaints has good stats for customer complaints. They pull data from nhtsa mostly. It's not everything but there's a lot there. Wrap the car in vinyl. It'll look way better and you don't have to worry anymore about peeling paint nor in the future. Unless u take off the wrap, in which case i bet your paint goes with it.. Worth pointing out i see damage to your bumper that could have accelerated any problem you are having now. Finish peeling it and it'll look 10x better as all black especially with the grill
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It's possible you would not know the car was repaired, before you bought it. The law in my state (Virginia) allows a new car to be repaired without telling anyone, if the damage is less than 7% of the "actual cash value" of the car when it was brand new.
Actual cash value is an ambiguous word, but that is a variable under the control of the dealership where the damage occurred. They control that value and can make it most anything they want to to stay under the 7% threshold. Most manufacturers (to my current knowledge) offer replacement bumper covers with factory paint and I don't think I have ever seen it peel like it has in those pictures.
See if a pre painted bumper cover is available. They never match the rest of the body perfectly and they are not painted with the rest of the metal body as the ovens they are baked in would destroy plastic.
There is a liquid additive that the aftermarket uses to paint flexible plastic parts, that softens the surface of the plastic and allows the paint to actually chemically bond to same plastic. Seen lots of them torn up in accidents, but never peeling paint like that.
Not saying it is impossible, but very highly unlikely
Actual cash value is an ambiguous word, but that is a variable under the control of the dealership where the damage occurred. They control that value and can make it most anything they want to to stay under the 7% threshold. Most manufacturers (to my current knowledge) offer replacement bumper covers with factory paint and I don't think I have ever seen it peel like it has in those pictures.
See if a pre painted bumper cover is available. They never match the rest of the body perfectly and they are not painted with the rest of the metal body as the ovens they are baked in would destroy plastic.
There is a liquid additive that the aftermarket uses to paint flexible plastic parts, that softens the surface of the plastic and allows the paint to actually chemically bond to same plastic. Seen lots of them torn up in accidents, but never peeling paint like that.
Not saying it is impossible, but very highly unlikely
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I had also never heard of melting dashes until my son, who has "ownership" of my 2008 Solara now (he lives in another state and had to license it), let me know what had happened. Toyota did not notify me of the fact they were admitting it was junk science that caused it. They probably didn't end up replacing any of the affected dashboards. It was going to be about $2500 to replace one. I understood from other owners that they were claiming unavailability. I had bought nothing nor considered leaving Toyota until that. I even called Toyota and was told they had made exceptions. I and my deceased husband had purchased nothing except Toyota products since 1990 or 1991. I bought a Corolla in 2002, he bought a Camry in 1996 and I bought a 2002, a 2005, that 2008, then the Rev4 in 2017. I had only put 76,000 miles on the '08 my son now has and really just bought the '17 so I could give my son another nice newer vehicle. I guess Toyota decided I wasn't worthy of an exception. I doubt I'll buy another Toyota. They haven't earned my loyalty.
I had 2018 ruby flare and nothing like this. It was chopped up from rocks on expressway but paint was not comming off. I'm thinking this bumper was either repainted or its a aftermarket bumper and bad prep job.
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I had the same issue on my 2018 Toyota Camry XSE, which was also Ruby Red Flare. The dealer did cover the problem under warranty. Note that my car was never in an accident, was never repainted prior to the peeling paint issue. It peels off especially easily in winter. Below was my experience.
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Poor Paint Quality
I am definitely not impressed with the paint quality of the Camry. Besides the fact it scratches easily, I notice paint peeling off my front bumper. I didn't hit any curbs, ice banks and nor did the bumper contact anything. Photo attached, note a little ice on the car.. I didn't buy a Lexus but...
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2014 Tacoma Sport, 2018 Camry XLE Hybrid, 2013 Camry XLE hybrid, past 06&14 Tacoma, 06,07 Camry XLE
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Good luck, I’ve been complaining about my ‘14 super white Tacoma peeling since 2018! Toyota even sent me a notification that IF there’s ever a recall, I’m included. To date, I have a price of $4,000 to fix just what’s peeling, not the whole truck. I’m on my 3rd Tacoma and 3 Camrys…they may be the last!
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A rental with an up charge paint ?
My last 3 leased cars, 2 Camry’s and my current ‘21 Venza all have the Ruby flare pearl paint,
I agree the paint has faired poorly in recent years especially with rock chips and road debris getting kicked up on the hwy, every panel roof included has chipped paint and now rust spots.
Roof is steel, hood fenders, are aluminum so there are “white” spots where paint chipped.
Leasing a vehicle with these issues are considered normal wear and tear. I don’t expect an issue with turning it in unless there are no new Venza’s at that time which I may buy out and then decide if I want to have it touched up.
Daily drivers on shitty roads, we pay the price. 😐
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Don't know why people keep saying ppf has nothing to do with this. Yes the paint would still look like it's ok, but the paint underneath is still doing this. So if you are doing it on a white car especially and need to replace the ppf when it yellows, the paint will come off with it. This is an issue with the paint/clear coat not bonding well with the plastic.
Was the Camry that you are having issues with the paint made in Japan or Kentucky? My new 2022 Venza is the Red Ruby Flare and it is a complex paint process. That is why we pay more for that color and as I remember there are two other colors that are $400 plus for the paint. Did you know that for the past few years they are now using latex paint!?!? I'll have to be visual on the paint. Fortunately both my cars are kept in a garage. I've owned Toyotas since 1978 and never had a paint problem. Our son's 2004 Corolla which was a Ruby Red started to have paint issues on the bumpers and door handles when it was about 10 years old but it sat outside.
I agree. It's more likely that the bumper was replaced or repainted prior to delivery. Maybe it was transit damage when delivered to the dealer.
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