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Okay, so I looked through a bunch of threads and could not find an answer to this. Where can I actually get a performance head for my 96 Paseo. I don't know anyone with a 5efhe lying around so I figure that is out of the question. Is there a head from an engine I can actually find at a junkyard or one I can order?
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just the FHE head is all i can think of
FHE is a head with a dizzy, And you engine is DIS. so to use fhe head youl need intake manifold, wiring harness, and all the stuff to make it work. 5eFHE head is the EXACTLY the same as 1st gen 5efe, 4efte, 4efe, So they're is no diffrence. If you don't want a swap you can take your head to a machine/bike shop and get it Ported and polish with some valve job and some other good stuff.
How much shoud I be looking at paying for that? And also I'm looking at doing a P&P to my intake manifold, and I heard that the throttle body from a 93-97 Corolla will fit with a 5mm larger port. I was planning on doing a P&P to that too. Does this sound smart? And can anyone give me an idea of how much more hp and trque that will give me. The only other performance upgrade I have done is making my own cold air intake out of some flex tubing. It has really helped-I can notice more throttle responce as well as a deeper sound.
I was quoted about $300 for a port match job at the local performance shop.

A Corolla throttle body will work, but it takes some finessing. You can check my site for a tutorial on how to do it. If that doesn't sound like your cup of tea I do have a 96 throttle body bored out to 52mm (stock is 45mm, Corolla is 50mm) sitting around that I can't use anymore.

Good luck porting your intake manifold. Getting a tool in there to remove material uniformly is going to be a nice trick. Extrude honing is the only way I know of doing this properly and it costs a pretty penny (cheapest I've seen is $300ish).
you can expect up to 10 hp from that, Depending on what other mods you have is gonna free them up a bit. But what are your goals with the car?? what power do you want to make and what do you use it for. Because IMO is better to get a Dizzy turbo swap like 4efte or 5efhe with a turbo kit. In the long run is gonna be alot easier for the Swap to make more power. Is all in what you wanna do to your car??? http://board.tercelonline.com has all kinds of info on what you wnat to do and what other peoples results are. also check Daox website http://www.tercelreference.com/ for alot of good info and tutorials
Honestly, I cannot say I have a definitive goal in terms of e.t. or hp. But I love putting new stuff on my car and seeing the difference they make. The Corolla T.B. how much, and are you looking to loose it soon or can you give me, say a month? I am very interested. There is a guy up in Canada who has a stock intake manifold he is selling for $50, he said he would P&P it for an extra $25. Should I be wary for such a good deal?
I guess beating my dad's Mustang Saleen with the stage 4 supercharger, 4.10 gears, a meth kit, and k&n intake would be outta the question eh?
jqueipo said:
Honestly, I cannot say I have a definitive goal in terms of e.t. or hp. But I love putting new stuff on my car and seeing the difference they make. The Corolla T.B. how much, and are you looking to loose it soon or can you give me, say a month? I am very interested. There is a guy up in Canada who has a stock intake manifold he is selling for $50, he said he would P&P it for an extra $25. Should I be wary for such a good deal?
Isnt he selling a first gen 5efe manifold???? It does NOT fit your DIS engine.
It doesn't say, I think so. Everything else is 91-94 so I guess. Oh well, too good to be true.
jqueipo said:
Honestly, I cannot say I have a definitive goal in terms of e.t. or hp. But I love putting new stuff on my car and seeing the difference they make. The Corolla T.B. how much, and are you looking to loose it soon or can you give me, say a month? I am very interested. There is a guy up in Canada who has a stock intake manifold he is selling for $50, he said he would P&P it for an extra $25. Should I be wary for such a good deal?
it wont fit but dont be wary of tom(aka terseoman). hes a great guy who wouldnt rip off anyone
Oh I didn't mean it that way. It would have been a product of my own ignorance (lack of education, not intelligence)
The bored out throttle body I have is from a Tercel, not Corolla. So, no modifications are needed at all to install it. No hurry on it either. I haven't been advertising it as for sale.
Daox said:
The bored out throttle body I have is from a Tercel, not Corolla. So, no modifications are needed at all to install it. No hurry on it either. I haven't been advertising it as for sale.
Is not your TB he's talking about, it was an Intake manifold from a 1st gen 5efe off terseoman on TPC.com i believe.
ya, tommy's intake mani is off a 1st gen. i was going to buy it, but an ACIS came about.
Okay so now I will be getting a complete 5efhe engine. So my next question is what would be the best upgrade to improve performance now. Mind you here s where I am at currently. Stock 5efe tranny, ECU, and wiring harness, Custom Intake I built myself, dont know what shape the clutch is in because I bought the car 2 months ago with 230k+ miles on it. I have decided what my goals are: as far as hp im not sure where I will be left with. But here are the eventual upgrades I want to do: Header/Exhaust system, putting the turbo off of the 4efte on it, changing the tranny, clutch, ECU, wiring harness, spark plugs/wires, MSD Ignition, Chip, gears, fuel pump, rail, and injectors and prolly eventually P&P a few of the internals. Now I need suggestions on which things to do first-last and which companies make the best parts prefferably with links. Also what kind of boost does the 4efte turbo put out stock? I'm on a shoe string budget for those of you who take that into consideration but I want to do things right. It just may take a very long time to do each upgrade. I hope to in the end be somewhere in the 14's in the quarter and have a nice looking, good-running car that I can be proud of.
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don't change the stock FHE header out is great 4-2-1 design....putting an aftermarket one will not really make a diffrence. To get a little power out of the n/a look for CAI intake, full exhaust, spark plug and wires, lighter crank pully,lighter flywheel and clutch kit, and do a tune up and replace old parts. To Turbo the 5efhe you can use some parts of the 4efte kit but don't expect too much power out of the ct9 and also will need to get a better WG to avoid boost creep and boost spike, the turbo factory manifold is too restrictave on the 1.3, so on the bigger displacement 1.5 is worst.. you either need a custom made manifold or a modified 5e header with turbo flange. you will need a fitting in the oil pan for the return line, FMIC with piping and bov. Injectors atleast 315-330cc, exhaust, boost gauge/ and most important an Some to TUNE it with. and the list goes on forever.... making that motor turbo is nowhere around cheap...so don't even try to part a "cheap turbo kit" and slap it on there cause you'll never have that thing running right.
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AND you'll be pissed if it breaks..
jdmtrdriderpr said:
FHE is a head with a dizzy, And you engine is DIS. so to use fhe head youl need intake manifold, wiring harness, and all the stuff to make it work. 5eFHE head is the EXACTLY the same as 1st gen 5efe, 4efte, 4efe, So they're is no diffrence. If you don't want a swap you can take your head to a machine/bike shop and get it Ported and polish with some valve job and some other good stuff.
Sorry for bringing back an older thread but could you verify your comment " 5efe head is eaactly the same as 1st gen 5efe,4efte, 4efe" does that mean i could put a 4efe head on a 3e-3? Pls don't flame im just curious. And if the answer is "no" then could someone tell me why?
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