[kniterider09]

Just got this today, me and stone11 installed it and thought i'd post up a well deserved review for it. Thanks jeff for bringing it to our attention.

The difference is amazing, no delay at all, and the car just picks up and goes! Has 3 modes, normal, eco, sport.

eco has 5 sub modes (1 being most responsive, 5 being the most economical), sport has 7 submodes, I went straight for 7 and that is the best. if you drive a manual you will have to get adjusted to the extra throttle response. I can see myself using the eco mode for winter driving to prevent wheel spin. Below 30km/hr it indicates how much plate is open in any mode. Normal mode is just stock. Eco 5 is the worse...car feels like a 2 cyl engine on about 25% throttle, but if you punch it ofcourse it'll respond.

Installation was easy, you have to unbolt and pull out the throttle assembly, clip on the harness and put it back. another harness goes into the car's ecu jack (below the coin holder, lower left cabin), and you can mount the display above it.

Cost me $327 CAD shipping included ($304 USD), received it within 2 days. Ordered it from here. Best $300 bucks ever spent on a mod!

In my opinion, its the best mod i've done, and everyone with a DBW throttle should definitly do this. I belive the blitz throttle controller doesnt have to connect to the computer port and only connects to the throttle, but it costs more too, plus the pivot has more settings.

Here are some pics just to show you how and where its mounted. We will have to do something about all those wires, cause we cant close the cover anymore, so everything's just zip tied together, doesnt get in the way or anything but we'll still have to come up with something to cover it completely.

Where you see the drawn circle is the other harness coming from throttle, its ziptied and tucked in front and away from the clutch, so there is no interference. and you can see where the rest of the wires are and why that port cover cant be closed.

 

[ilikebass7]

stone has an s manual correct? i wanna know what he has to say. Seriously considering it

 

[thestone11]

stone has an s manual correct? i wanna know what he has to say. Seriously considering it

Yes, I have a S manual. 100% satisfied with the product. Totally took out the delay on the DBW on sports mode, the car has superb throttle response now.

 

[x8dragon8x]

how would this fare for an automatic depending on the modes? this sounds like a very good mod because the throttle is very laggy. especially when you are trying to punch it up the hill or trying to pass a car.

 

[Jeff Lange]

I don't have much to add other than it'd look a lot better if you hid all that wiring mess, haha.

The Red/Black wires that plug into the OBD connector are constant +12V/Gnd. You can splice these into a constant +12V source and then you don't need to have the diagnostic cover open all the time. Not to mention seeing everything just hanging there.

On mine, since I didn't want to modify any of the factory wiring (even though I easily could have) I popped the OBD connector out of that lower panel and secured it in behind with the 3-drive plugged into it. I mounted my controller inside the little cubby-hole there.

I could take the entire system out and leave it 100% stock in about 2-3 minutes, which is exactly what I wanted.

I'll post a couple pics of mine, perhaps tomorrow.

This is a pic of my setup, without actually showing anything, haha:

(EDIT: Also a note; there are many companies out there that actually manufacture knock-off 3-drive systems, they look almost identical to the Pivot system but are made in China, etc. instead of Japan. These can be had for quite a bit less money, but I have no experience with them. When it comes to something like the throttle control, I felt the extra few dollars was worth it).

Jeff

 

[SuperchargedMR2]

I'm going to get one of these, it sounds like a great system & will make a nice addition for my 09 S. :thumbsup: :naughty:

 

[v8eaterWRX]

I'm curious of the fuel savings that could be had here.

 

[SuperchargedMR2]

Just got this today, me and stone11 installed it and thought i'd post up a well deserved review for it. Thanks jeff for bringing it to our attention.

The difference is amazing, no delay at all, and the car just picks up and goes! Has 3 modes, normal, eco, sport.

eco has 5 sub modes (1 being most responsive, 5 being the most economical), sport has 7 submodes, I went straight for 7 and that is the best. if you drive a manual you will have to get adjusted to the extra throttle response. I can see myself using the eco mode for winter driving to prevent wheel spin. Below 30km/hr it indicates how much plate is open in any mode. Normal mode is just stock. Eco 5 is the worse...car feels like a 2 cyl engine on about 25% throttle, but if you punch it ofcourse it'll respond.

Installation was easy, you have to unbolt and pull out the throttle assembly, clip on the harness and put it back. another harness goes into the car's ecu jack (below the coin holder, lower left cabin), and you can mount the display above it.

Cost me $327 CAD shipping included ($304 USD), received it within 2 days. Ordered it from here. Best $300 bucks ever spent on a mod!

In my opinion, its the best mod i've done, and everyone with a DBW throttle should definitly do this. I belive the blitz throttle controller doesnt have to connect to the computer port and only connects to the throttle, but it costs more too, plus the pivot has more settings.

Here are some pics just to show you how and where its mounted. We will have to do something about all those wires, cause we cant close the cover anymore, so everything's just zip tied together, doesnt get in the way or anything but we'll still have to come up with something to cover it completely.

Where you see the drawn circle is the other harness coming from throttle, its ziptied and tucked in front and away from the clutch, so there is no interference. and you can see where the rest of the wires are and why that port cover cant be closed.

Could you run the wire through one of the blanks that it's covering? Also, did you order harness 2A if I'm reading that chart correctly?

 

[ilikebass7]

so it actually effectively corrects lag in throttle response? sounds good to me. Jim i cant wait until you get it. haha your my source into the future of what i get. hahaha
nice job Knight Rider and Stone

 

[kniterider09]

I'm curious of the fuel savings that could be had here.

me too, its too new for me to be driving it on eco yet lol, i am hitting the highway in two days so maybe i'll play around with the settings and see what happens.

Could you run the wire through one of the blanks that it's covering? Also, did you order harness 2A if I'm reading that chart correctly?

ya you are right jim, didnt think of that, then again, we were so excited we just wanted to bolt this on and go drive :lol: so didnt think of alternatives of proper placement. i'll clean that mess up today. Yes its 2A

 

[LeanBurn]

How do you guys find this stuff?

I could see some big potential savings for those that drive quite a bit of city traffic, as that is when the throttle is very active due to the stop and go nature. I don't know if highway travel would see much though as the throttle position is somewhat constant.

 

[thestone11]

How do you guys find this stuff?

I could see some big potential savings for those that drive quite a bit of city traffic, as that is when the throttle is very active due to the stop and go nature. I don't know if highway travel would see much though as the throttle position is somewhat constant.

Throttle controller will have minimal effect on saving fuel on the highway. I personally see this is a performance mod, I don't think I am going to drive it under the eco mode all the time (may use it in the winter time to get the car to go in the light to avoid wheel spin). the Eco mode will really delay the throttle input, worse than stock, so your figure haha. And I think my car is already pretty good in gas, so I don't even bother to drive under the eco mode.

 

[kniterider09]

How do you guys find this stuff?

I could see some big potential savings for those that drive quite a bit of city traffic, as that is when the throttle is very active due to the stop and go nature. I don't know if highway travel would see much though as the throttle position is somewhat constant.

actually driving this morning, i found that at spt 7 setting, its quite tough to maintin a constant speed, cause the throttle is super sensitive, probably spt 3 is better for city driving, but really depends on your driving style. Eco 1 is not bad either, dont know about fuel savings yet.

 

[ilikebass7]

gosh i wanna freakin try this out and see if its worth it. Sounds really cool. on your manual does it make the gas/clutch combo different depending on what mode your in?

 

[thestone11]

gosh i wanna freakin try this out and see if its worth it. Sounds really cool. on your manual does it make the gas/clutch combo different depending on what mode your in?

I would say timing is different. Since with the sports mode, you want to let out the clutch quicker than the normal mode since the rev is quicker. Just to avoid burning your clutch that kind of thing.

 

[ilikebass7]

i wiwsh there were some way to guage the usefullness of tis. sounds awesome.

 

[kniterider09]

i wiwsh there were some way to guage the usefullness of tis. sounds awesome.

its really hard to explain, but its something you have to just try and adjust on your own on a manual car, it just makes daily driving fun, that is all.

 

[ilikebass7]

well thats good! haha
if only i had any disposable money

 

[thestone11]

Just to answer you guys about the fuel saving under the eco mode. I did a test while driving my wife to work, it is the same path that I take everyday, before the throttle controller, I avg about 6.8L/100km. This morning I reset the meter and drove it under the Eco 3 mode, I avg 5.9L/100km. So it is really saving gas in a city driving situation. And keep in mind, it is only on ECO 3 mode, ECO 5 will save more i guess.

 

[dj2000lbs]

ok I'm really thinking of buying this product but a buddy of mine who works on cars for a living is telling me what a waste of money it is. That this just makes the pedel more senstive cause at half throttle the ECU thinks your full thottle basicaly..... He's like dude just floor the Corolla and you'll be getting the same thing... Does he have a point? or should I buy it?