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It's just my opinion, but based on some of what has already taken place, such as my avatar and similar avatars that contain "violent imagery" that someone might find offensive being automatically edited smacks of either political correctness, bowing to the god of Google indexing/rating, et al, or a combination of both. VS being a Canadian company isn't bound protected by the 1st amendment as in America, and so again IMO it's not too great a leap to foresee the day when the controversial nature of OT threads may be deemed inappropriate for a set of automobile forums. Of course, one could look at it from a purely business perspective and say, gee, OT is always one of the top three most popular forums on TN and therefore may draw new members in who will also post about their vehicles, and then generate revenue for advertisers. That's a possibility. However, PC is an insidious thing, and I just get this vibe that OT may not be around forever.
 

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Welp I s'pose I should start looking. Texas gun talk used to be ok but I think they were sold long ago. Our old friend Zemboni started that one iirc.

I frequent Instapundit a lot these days if you have ever been over there.
 

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Welp I s'pose I should start looking. Texas gun talk used to be ok but I think they were sold long ago. Our old friend Zemboni started that one iirc.

I frequent Instapundit a lot these days if you have ever been over there.
It was his son, and allow me to be blunt: Those guys over at TGT were a bunch of fucking assholes. They circled their wagons into a group of about nine or ten Texas local butt buddies who said nothing to anyone else in the forums except for their little clique of bitches. I had been invited by a military buddy of mine, became thoroughly disgusted, and left. We'll have to find somewhere else if it comes to a new home.
 

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It's just my opinion, but based on some of what has already taken place, such as my avatar and similar avatars that contain "violent imagery" that someone might find offensive being automatically edited smacks of either political correctness, bowing to the god of Google indexing/rating, et al, or a combination of both. VS being a Canadian company isn't bound protected by the 1st amendment as in America, and so again IMO it's not too great a leap to foresee the day when the controversial nature of OT threads may be deemed inappropriate for a set of automobile forums. Of course, one could look at it from a purely business perspective and say, gee, OT is always one of the top three most popular forums on TN and therefore may draw new members in who will also post about their vehicles, and then generate revenue for advertisers. That's a possibility. However, PC is an insidious thing, and I just get this vibe that OT may not be around forever.
Well, my friend Everett who runs a web site (pays the bills for it out of pocket), had to close the "Rants" page of his open chat, as it was always busy, and needed 3 moderators at all times because no one was following the rules. His "off topic" section is still in place, but gets moderated and even threads closed at times, because some of the "rants" people are still there trying to cause trouble at times.
I came here to the off topic section from the 6th gen forum, as it was too quiet there. I still go there, but I mosey my way down here, and spend a lot of time in this forum. If they closed it, I'll probably go somewhere else, or find something else to do with my time (probably watch a lot of porn).
I've found I've learned a lot about the world, the country, and about people in general from this forum, as it covers a lot of different subjects. I hope they don't close it, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do.
 

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It's just my opinion, but based on some of what has already taken place, such as my avatar and similar avatars that contain "violent imagery" that someone might find offensive being automatically edited smacks of either political correctness, bowing to the god of Google indexing/rating, et al, or a combination of both. VS being a Canadian company isn't bound protected by the 1st amendment as in America, and so again IMO it's not too great a leap to foresee the day when the controversial nature of OT threads may be deemed inappropriate for a set of automobile forums. Of course, one could look at it from a purely business perspective and say, gee, OT is always one of the top three most popular forums on TN and therefore may draw new members in who will also post about their vehicles, and then generate revenue for advertisers. That's a possibility. However, PC is an insidious thing, and I just get this vibe that OT may not be around forever.
PC is based on emotion, not common sense or even business sense. For example the recent discussion on the P&G write down of 8 Billion for Gillette.

Also FWIW the !st Amendment applies to the government, not private companies ( although that has been fought in court). However the customer/user has the ability to take their business elsewhere .
 

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Well, the OT is the only forum I really use at all here anymore, so if it was deleted, then so would I. While it wouldn't be the end of the world, and I could see how some brainlets might think "this is a toyota forum, not an off topic forum", I'm hoping they don't delete it. If they do, it just really shows what the world is coming to. It used to be, forums were "safe" from that kind of PC political policing, since all of that went to "social media" like Facebook, leaving the rest of us here alone untouched. But as I predicted, forums still hold their place as strong as ever, so those people are coming back and trying to "facebook" the forums. kinda like people who flee California to Texas, only do ruin it.
 

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Well, my friend Everett who runs a web site (pays the bills for it out of pocket), had to close the "Rants" page of his open chat, as it was always busy, and needed 3 moderators at all times because no one was following the rules. His "off topic" section is still in place, but gets moderated and even threads closed at times, because some of the "rants" people are still there trying to cause trouble at times.
I came here to the off topic section from the 6th gen forum, as it was too quiet there. I still go there, but I mosey my way down here, and spend a lot of time in this forum. If they closed it, I'll probably go somewhere else, or find something else to do with my time (probably watch a lot of porn).
I've found I've learned a lot about the world, the country, and about people in general from this forum, as it covers a lot of different subjects. I hope they don't close it, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do.
A few of us OT regulars should exchange email addresses--if you guys are interested--so that if OT is ever closed down due to PC then we can communicate among each other and, hopefully, gravitate to another set of forums where we can post freely. :)
 

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PC is based on emotion, not common sense or even business sense. For example the recent discussion on the P&G write down of 8 Billion for Gillette.

Also FWIW the !st Amendment applies to the government, not private companies ( although that has been fought in court). However the customer/user has the ability to take their business elsewhere .
Unless it's the left then they can bully a business to cow tow to their agenda. If it were reversed there would be so much fake outrage. If two Christians forced a gay bakery to make a heterosexual cake. funny how you don't see the gay mafia go after the Muslim owned bakery. Cause there is an agenda to wipe anything Christian or God out of this country. Then wonder where is God when tragedy strikes. But that's another can of worms.
 

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It's just my opinion, but based on some of what has already taken place, such as my avatar and similar avatars that contain "violent imagery" that someone might find offensive being automatically edited smacks of either political correctness, bowing to the god of Google indexing/rating, et al, or a combination of both. VS being a Canadian company isn't bound protected by the 1st amendment as in America, and so again IMO it's not too great a leap to foresee the day when the controversial nature of OT threads may be deemed inappropriate for a set of automobile forums. Of course, one could look at it from a purely business perspective and say, gee, OT is always one of the top three most popular forums on TN and therefore may draw new members in who will also post about their vehicles, and then generate revenue for advertisers. That's a possibility. However, PC is an insidious thing, and I just get this vibe that OT may not be around forever.
My Avatar is a V8 can and it get affected too, at times it replace with a "W". LOL I think it's just a transition thing.

Seeing how Canadian passed the.... what the hell was that law... I think HATE SPEECH? They will have to kill themselves to follow their crazy laws.
 

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A few of us OT regulars should exchange email addresses--if you guys are interested--so that if OT is ever closed down due to PC then we can communicate among each other and, hopefully, gravitate to another set of forums where we can post freely. :)
And our email become PC too like Gmail. See the individuals are being under attack. "Kill all the tree to protect the forest" - I forgot who said it... I think Judge Napolitano said it. The forest don't really exist, it's the trees that make up the forest. Tree are individuals. So trying to kill trees to protect the forest is a sure way to destroy everything.

I really need to get another email service. LOL...................ok done.. now I have a proton email. :D
 

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My Avatar is a V8 can and it get affected too, at times it replace with a "W". LOL I think it's just a transition thing.

Seeing how Canadian passed the.... what the hell was that law... I think HATE SPEECH? They will have to kill themselves to follow their crazy laws.
There have been resizing and other avatar issues, but I also got it from the horse's mouth regarding the violence content editing.
 

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I see.. I hope they won't try to regulate the "hate" speech cause that will screw everything up.
That's what I was saying earlier, that I wonder if Off Topic's days are numbered.
 

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@TrailDust @heartdisease i belong to a very small gun forum. we are privately owned and
all have one thing in common... the love of guns and country and GOD.
we have a great staff and some extremely knowledgeable folks when it comes to firearms
and firearm accessories, we don't put up with any BS and thats why we are a small forum.
nudity is not allowed as in cussing also.... i can't tell how many times i've been told to put pants
on. if your interested send me a message and i'll get you a link.
 

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HD I watched a lot of Jesse's car fix shows where she along with two other women fixed people's problem cars. Shame she's gone. Seemed like a good person willing to help others learn how to fix cars.


My Betsy flag/don't tread on me flag combo avy is so offensive it is blocked by this site now. I believe the recent site update is a deliberate aggravating downgrade in hopes we will leave because of it and their PC avy/picture blocking. I think both are the globalists leftists way of getting us to no longer post anti PC thoughts, pictures and memes here. If we don't leave from the site aggravation and choose to continue exercising our right to free speech here then the off topic thread will be closed. Either way I believe it is their motive to rid this forum of the anti PC posters here be them few as they are.

The left is intolerant determined to gain control over the masses. Since they know they can not defeat us fairly through open debate allowing the exchange of ideologies they are in the process of shutting us down globally through cutting off our means of expression such as here and other places online, intimidation through doxing, social scoring, cutting off funds for offensive political views and outright violence since the easiest way to gain power over the masses is winning through force not debate.

I've felt the same as Kev ever since I saw this supposed site upgrade. Time to exchange emails and find a site to be able to continue to express our views guys. Gab maybe since they are more free speech than twitter, facebook ect.
 

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HD I watched a lot of Jesse's car fix shows where she along with two other women fixed people's problem cars. Shame she's gone. Seemed like a good person willing to help others learn how to fix cars.


My Betsy flag/don't tread on me flag combo avy is so offensive it is blocked by this site now. I believe the recent site update is a deliberate aggravating downgrade in hopes we will leave because of it and their PC avy/picture blocking. I think both are the globalists leftists way of getting us to no longer post anti PC thoughts, pictures and memes here. If we don't leave from the site aggravation and choose to continue exercising our right to free speech here then the off topic thread will be closed. Either way I believe it is their motive to rid this forum of the anti PC posters here be them few as they are.

The left is intolerant determined to gain control over the masses. Since they know they can not defeat us fairly through open debate allowing the exchange of ideologies they are in the process of shutting us down globally through cutting off our means of expression such as here and other places online, intimidation through doxing, social scoring, cutting off funds for offensive political views and outright violence since the easiest way to gain power over the masses is winning through force not debate.

I've felt the same as Kev ever since I saw this supposed site upgrade. Time to exchange emails and find a site to be able to continue to express our views guys. Gab maybe since they are more free speech than twitter, facebook ect.
From what I heard, she died in a land speed crash, doing 136mph.
I guess when they close this thread or topic down, I'll probably go back to spending time at my old haunt (this week end it's getting some site updates). I don't tweet, or facebook, or really any other form of social media.
I will say this though, since the site change I've seen more Toyota ads, even some in Spanish. For a Canadian company, I would have thought they would be in French for the "French Canadians". IDK, maybe there are more South Americans in Canada than I thought.:unsure: Sorry with the Obama designed smiles, this is as close to a shrug as I can find.
 

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Wow.... now I have the choice of having 2 steps security verification for log in...... no, I want infinity + infinity of steps verification to be super sure it is me that trying to log in to check on my balance of 2 cents. LOL
 
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