Toyota Nation Forum banner

1 - 16 of 16 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I'm a VW person but I noticed this thing about the RAV4 recently and I couldn't find any comments on any forums about it. I was behind one at a light and was surprised by how tiny the brake lights are! While the tail lights are the entire red area, the part that lights up for brake is just a tiny triangular area about 1 square inch. In bright sunlight they're barely visible. I don't know how well they work at night or dusk because this is the only time I've been behind a 5th gen Rav4

rav4_2000px.jpg
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
This is someone who's made a change to their default brake lights.

While this is a night pic, you can see all the lights that come on during braking.

https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/toyota/rav4/2019/ot/2019_toyota_rav4_det_ot_1211186_717.jpg
Interesting! How do you do that? With Volkswagen Auto Group vehicles we can use VCDS or a similar program with a special OBD2 dongle and code the lights. For example I coded the hatch mounted lights on my Golf Alltrack to work as brake lights. But I can't find anything like that for Toyota
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
I misunderstood what you were asking.

Yes, the lights are small in size but they're much brighter than the picture you posted.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter #6
I misunderstood what you were asking.

Yes, the lights are small in size but they're much brighter than the picture you posted.
The picture shows what they look like in sunlight, almost invisible! During the night I'm sure they are more visible

I wonder if drivers of the Rav4 have noticed that following drivers react slower in stop and go
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
The picture shows what they look like in sunlight, almost invisible! During the night I'm sure they are more visible

I wonder if drivers of the Rav4 have noticed that following drivers react slower in stop and go
I own a 2019 XLE Premium and looked at many others, all during the day. I’ve seen the brake lights on (my wife on the pedal) and they don’t look as dim as those in the pictures.

There’s federal laws that regulate how bright brake lights must be (certain brightness level at specific distance behind vehicle) and toyota would have to comply.

I’m saying either the driver of this vehicle made a change or there’s something wrong with their Rav4.
 

·
Camry Freak
Camry & Accord
Joined
·
1,171 Posts
I've noticed too that some (emphasis on some) 2019 Rav4s have really dim brake lights when the driver steps on the brake. They also seem to have a problem that unless you are directly behind the Rav4, they aren't very bright at all... which is a problem if you are moving lanes and pulling behind the Rav4 and they suddenly brake. At night they are a bit more visible- but I've seen a handful of newer Rav4s that seem to have this problem. Not all of them- just some of them. Maybe it's something that only is noticeable in certain lighting conditions or something.

Do upgraded models have more than one LED on each side for brake lights? I know that parking lamps all illuminate well with the headlights on- but again- that single LED doesn't seem adequate or safe..

Here's a different YouTube video that shows you how an LE's rear lights work when driving... the guy is really annoying but if you skip to about the 4-minute mark- he pulls the SUV forward and then reverses it- and it really shows how dim those lights can be in certain conditions.


Again- Toyota says that all 2019 Rav4s have LED taillights- but I can't help but wonder if the LEDs are brighter or there are more of them on the higher trim models.
 

·
イリジウム
Joined
·
12,043 Posts
LOL!! Better be careful driving behind one.

I guess light bulbs are too expensive these days. ;) ;)
 

·
Moderator
2018 Camry XSE V6
Joined
·
2,294 Posts
Area I live, I see a lot of gen 5 rav4's on the road and I've driven behind a couple of them during day time and the lights are fine. I can see the lights on the tailights and third brake during sunny days with no issues. The third brake light is enough to alert the person behind that the brakes are on. I guess one concern is someone can have a rear end collision because of those brake lights but i doubt it. More likely the person wasn't paying attention anyway. Like someone said, they are regulated by the government and Toyota will follow the government regulations to the tee.
 

·
Registered
08 Toyota Camry 2AZ-FE R9K Tuned
Joined
·
6,923 Posts
A picture is just a picture just like how a video is just a video and audio is just audio. They almost always differ from seeing the actual product in person. I also believe that since the OP was surprised about how small the lights are just means they are working as intended, to be seen. Besides, instead of worrying how small these lights are, I would worry more about the fact that people ignore when their brake lights don't work whether that is in darkness or when braking.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
i have a complete solution for this rav4 5th gen brake light problem. I’ll show here is the added harness for the tail lights. Notice the before and after and apparently it’s daytime.
290970

290971
 
1 - 16 of 16 Posts
Top