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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>
> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.

How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

"badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>
>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.
>
> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?

How?

Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit, and
perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS assaulted and
raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be charged and tried.
But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that the three guys that
were charged with the crime were not the ones that perpetrated said crime.
Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.

I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she was
raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent error
probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad. Not as sad
as charging and trying the wrong men ...

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We have
more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar has filed a
complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off the case. Once he
is off, it is likely that all charges will be dropped. I suspect in the
end, Durham will be sued by the 3 defendants for ruining several years of
their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but
they were screwed royally.



"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>>
>>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.
>>
>> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?
>
> How?
>
> Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit, and
> perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS assaulted and
> raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be charged and tried.
> But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that the three guys that
> were charged with the crime were not the ones that perpetrated said crime.
> Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.
>
> I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
> information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she
> was raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent
> error probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad.
> Not as sad as charging and trying the wrong men ...
>
>
>
>

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We
> have more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar
> has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off
> the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges will be
> dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the 3
> defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite frankly,
> these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were screwed
> royally.

Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the news
first broke?

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

Scott in Florida, 1/12/2007,1:45:30 PM, wrote:

> On 12 Jan 2007 18:03:21 GMT, "badgolferman"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.
> We >> have more details here than the national news carries. The NC
> bar >> has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force
> him off >> the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges
> will be >> dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the
> 3 >> defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite
> frankly, >> these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were
> screwed >> royally.
> >
> > Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the
> > news first broke?
>
> Art is a Dim....
>
> Guilt does not matter....
>
> It is the seriousness of the charge.....

It looks like the DA wants off the case now. He has finally been shown
the door.

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:20:34 -0500, "badgolferman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Scott in Florida, 1/12/2007,1:45:30 PM, wrote:
>
>> On 12 Jan 2007 18:03:21 GMT, "badgolferman"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.
>> We >> have more details here than the national news carries. The NC
>> bar >> has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force
>> him off >> the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges
>> will be >> dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the
>> 3 >> defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite
>> frankly, >> these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were
>> screwed >> royally.
>> >
>> > Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the
>> > news first broke?
>>
>> Art is a Dim....
>>
>> Guilt does not matter....
>>
>> It is the seriousness of the charge.....
>
>It looks like the DA wants off the case now. He has finally been shown
>the door.
Those three kids will take that ass hole down.

I hope they take Duke down with him!


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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

"Art" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]sread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We have
>more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar has filed a
>complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off the case. Once
>he is off, it is likely that all charges will be dropped. I suspect in the
>end, Durham will be sued by the 3 defendants for ruining several years of
>their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks
>but they were screwed royally.
>
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>>>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>>>
>>>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.
>>>
>>> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?
>>
>> How?
>>
>> Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit,
>> and perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS
>> assaulted and raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be
>> charged and tried. But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that
>> the three guys that were charged with the crime were not the ones that
>> perpetrated said crime. Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.
>>
>> I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
>> information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she
>> was raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent
>> error probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad.
>> Not as sad as charging and trying the wrong men ...

Limp-wristed *** boys like Art feel threatened by anyone with any athletic
ability.


>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

badgolferman wrote:
> Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We
> > have more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar
> > has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off
> > the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges will be
> > dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the 3
> > defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite frankly,
> > these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were screwed
> > royally.
>
> Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the news
> first broke?

I was a jock in school, and have seen some pretty disgusting pack
behavior at parties when alcohol was involved, so what happened didn't
seem to far fetched to me. Sadly, I probably assumed they were guilty
at first. I then saw the 60 minutes show on the case, and that pretty
much did it. What is it about the ego of these District Attorneys?
How many times have we seen them willing to convict innocent people
rather than admit a mistake, or in this case, further their political
careers? Maybe DA should not be an elected position.
This is one case though that I hope those boys sue his ass, and Duke
University for not waiting until the facts were out before taking
action. Good god, they disbanded the Lacrosse team, fired the coach
(what did he do?)
and suspended these young men from school. People need to be held
accountable. They also need to hold the whole DA's office accountable.
A lot of people stood by and let this happen.

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
<[email protected]> top posted like an ignorant
fucking moron and wrote:

>I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.

My wife points out that a woman would KNOW if she was penetrated by a
penis. (That's what the _LAW_ in NC says is rape)

> We have
>more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar has filed a
>complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off the case.

He's asked the state to assign a special prosecutor.

> Once he
>is off, it is likely that all charges will be dropped. I suspect in the
>end, Durham will be sued by the 3 defendants for ruining several years of
>their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but
>they were screwed royally.

Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
top post?

>
>
>"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>>
>> "badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>>>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>>>
>>>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.
>>>
>>> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?
>>
>> How?
>>
>> Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit, and
>> perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS assaulted and
>> raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be charged and tried.
>> But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that the three guys that
>> were charged with the crime were not the ones that perpetrated said crime.
>> Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.
>>
>> I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
>> information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she
>> was raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent
>> error probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad.
>> Not as sad as charging and trying the wrong men ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

On 12 Jan 2007 18:03:21 GMT, "badgolferman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We
>> have more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar
>> has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off
>> the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges will be
>> dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the 3
>> defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite frankly,
>> these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were screwed
>> royally.
>
>Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the news
>first broke?

Bet.
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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

"Gary L. Burnore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
> <[email protected]> top posted like an ignorant
> fucking moron and wrote:
>
>>I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.
>
> My wife points out that a woman would KNOW if she was penetrated by a
> penis.

Is that why your wife always has to ask if you are in yet?


(That's what the _LAW_ in NC says is rape)
>
>> We have
>>more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar has filed a
>>complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off the case.
>
> He's asked the state to assign a special prosecutor.
>
>> Once he
>>is off, it is likely that all charges will be dropped. I suspect in the
>>end, Durham will be sued by the 3 defendants for ruining several years of
>>their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks
>>but
>>they were screwed royally.
>
> Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
> top post?
>
>>
>>
>>"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]
>>>
>>> "badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>>> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>>>>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.
>>>>
>>>> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?
>>>
>>> How?
>>>
>>> Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit,
>>> and
>>> perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS assaulted
>>> and
>>> raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be charged and
>>> tried.
>>> But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that the three guys
>>> that
>>> were charged with the crime were not the ones that perpetrated said
>>> crime.
>>> Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.
>>>
>>> I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
>>> information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she
>>> was raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent
>>> error probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad.
>>> Not as sad as charging and trying the wrong men ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:10:21 GMT, "sharx35" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Gary L. Burnore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
>> <[email protected]> top posted like an ignorant
>> fucking moron and wrote:
>>
>>>I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.
>>
>> My wife points out that a woman would KNOW if she was penetrated by a
>> penis.
>
>Is that why your wife always has to ask if you are in yet?

Sad because you can't get any from anyone?
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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

On 14 Jan 2007 16:26:54 -0800, "Joe Blow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
>
>> >their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but
>> >they were screwed royally.
>>
>> Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
>> top post?
>
>
>What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up for all
>the jocks?

Who said sticking up for all the jocks? Though I'm betting those of
you who hate them must have been royally fucked by them.


> It's completely reasonable for intelligent people to despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because jocks are generally
>stupid people with little value to society

People like you, who try to categorize people are the stupid ones.

>if they don't cut it as professionals. About all they're good for is army grunt fodder in a
>ground war.

Ignorant little neocon.
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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,7:26:54 PM, wrote:

> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
>
> > > their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't
> > > like jocks but they were screwed royally.
> >
> > Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
> > top post?
>
>
> What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up for all
> the jocks? It's completely reasonable for intelligent people to
> despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because jocks are generally
> stupid people with little value to society if they don't cut it as
> professionals. About all they're good for is army grunt fodder in a
> ground war.

Why do you have such animosity towards people? It sounds like you are
either envious of them or you are an elitist liberal.

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,11:28:39 PM, wrote:

> badgolferman wrote:
> > Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,7:26:54 PM, wrote:
> > > What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up
> > > for all the jocks? It's completely reasonable for intelligent
> > > people to despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because
> > > jocks are generally stupid people with little value to society if
> > > they don't cut it as professionals. About all they're good for
> > > is army grunt fodder in a ground war.
> >
> > Why do you have such animosity towards people? It sounds like you
> > are either envious of them or you are an elitist liberal.
>
> Not "people." Just dumb jocks, and a few others. I am a staunch
> conservative. That doesn't mean I embrace meatheaded jocks or support
> their tendency to rape.

If you were a conservative you would consider them innocent until
proven guilty. Rapists should pay for their deeds but obviously these
boys were not the perpetrators, if there were any.

Get over your jealousy of those who have something you don't. It
certainly doesn't become a "conservative" as you pronounce yourself.

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

On 14 Jan 2007 16:26:54 -0800, "Joe Blow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>It's completely reasonable for intelligent people to despise jocks

You're obviously not intelligent or you'd no there's no reasonable
reason to despise anyone. I bet you're a right-wing christian
nutcase.
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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

On 14 Jan 2007 20:28:39 -0800, "Joe Blow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>badgolferman wrote:
>> Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,7:26:54 PM, wrote:
>> > What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up for all
>> > the jocks? It's completely reasonable for intelligent people to
>> > despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because jocks are generally
>> > stupid people with little value to society if they don't cut it as
>> > professionals. About all they're good for is army grunt fodder in a
>> > ground war.
>>
>> Why do you have such animosity towards people? It sounds like you are
>> either envious of them or you are an elitist liberal.
>
>Not "people." Just dumb jocks, and a few others.

So you think you get to decide who's a person and who's not? I was
right, you're a christian. You christians are like that.


>I am a staunch conservative.

Because your parents were and their parent's before them. You had and
have no say in the matter.

BTW, don't you wonder why you had to put a 16 after your name?
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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:37:23 -0500, "badgolferman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,11:28:39 PM, wrote:
>
>> badgolferman wrote:
>> > Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,7:26:54 PM, wrote:
>> > > What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up
>> > > for all the jocks? It's completely reasonable for intelligent
>> > > people to despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because
>> > > jocks are generally stupid people with little value to society if
>> > > they don't cut it as professionals. About all they're good for
>> > > is army grunt fodder in a ground war.
>> >
>> > Why do you have such animosity towards people? It sounds like you
>> > are either envious of them or you are an elitist liberal.
>>
>> Not "people." Just dumb jocks, and a few others. I am a staunch
>> conservative. That doesn't mean I embrace meatheaded jocks or support
>> their tendency to rape.
>
>If you were a conservative you would consider them innocent until
>proven guilty.

Far right wing conservatives believe they can tell when someone is
guilty.

> Rapists should pay for their deeds but obviously these
>boys were not the perpetrators, if there were any.

He doesn't care about that.

>Get over your jealousy of those who have something you don't. It
>certainly doesn't become a "conservative" as you pronounce yourself.

Sure it does. He's just showing their true colours.
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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

"badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,7:26:54 PM, wrote:
>
>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>> > On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
>>
>> > > their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't
>> > > like jocks but they were screwed royally.
>> >
>> > Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
>> > top post?
>>
>>
>> What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up for all
>> the jocks? It's completely reasonable for intelligent people to
>> despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because jocks are generally
>> stupid people with little value to society if they don't cut it as
>> professionals. About all they're good for is army grunt fodder in a
>> ground war.
>
> Why do you have such animosity towards people? It sounds like you are
> either envious of them or you are an elitist liberal.

Elitist LIEbrawl...I recognize the ilk.

 

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Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

"Joeseph P. Blow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 14 Jan 2007 16:26:54 -0800, "Joe Blow" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>It's completely reasonable for intelligent people to despise jocks
>
> You're obviously not intelligent or you'd no there's no reasonable
> reason to despise anyone. I bet you're a right-wing christian
> nutcase.

YOU, OTOH, are just a plain ole garden variety NUT CASE.


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