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Re: Rotor/Brake Job Question

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:36:07 -0700, bill730 wrote:

> I just had my 2003 Camry in for 60k service at the dealer and was told
> that it needed a brake job. I have ~61k miles on the car and I had a
> brake job done exactly 1 year and 1 week ago at the dealer at ~47k miles.
> I was told that the pads still had plently of life left on them (as
> expected), but the rotors need another resurfacing. They were resurfaced
> (or at least I was told they were) at the 47k brake job. There is a
> shaking in the steering wheel when the brakes are applied. The cost for a
> standard brake job (new pads and rotor resurfacing) is $169 at the dealer.
> I told them no, considering I had the job done not that long ago. I am
> questioning their work and wondering if I should try going somewhere else,
> or see if I can get the rotors replaced without getting new pads. Since I
> got 47k out of my first set of pads, I am reluctant to change them out so
> soon. Is it possible (or logical) to replace the rotors without replacing
> the pads? I am kind of reluctant to have them resurfaced again if this
> problem were to return. I am also reluctant to go back to the same
> place...not really trusting their work. What is my best option? Any idea
> on the cost just to replace the rotors?
>
> Thanks



Wow...some interesting questions today.

When you did the brakes, did you use Toyota parts, or did Meineke or Midas
do it. Meienke and Midas are profit oriented, so they probably used
Chinese rotors unless you specified others. If you resurfaced them and are
getting a pulsing through the brake pedal, this is an indication the
rotors are warped. Don't resurface them, chances are the warping will be
back in a few hundred miles.

If this is a TOYOTA dealer quoting $169, ask them how much for new rotors,
and the TOYOTA ones, not the aftermarket ones. Chinese rotora and pads are
fine for an '85 Celica with 254,000 miles on it if you do your own work
:), but for an '03 Camry with 60K, I'd pony up either for better rotors
and pads elsewhere, or have Toyota do it with the OEM spec parts.
 
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Re: Rotor/Brake Job Question

On Mar 14, 1:14 pm, Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ロク <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:36:07 -0700, bill730 wrote:
> > I just had my 2003 Camry in for 60k service at the dealer and was told
> > that it needed a brake job.  I have ~61k miles on the car and I had a
> > brake job done exactly 1 year and 1 week ago at the dealer at ~47k miles.
> > I was told that the pads still had plently of life left on them (as
> > expected), but the rotors need another resurfacing.  They were resurfaced
> > (or at least I was told they were) at the 47k brake job.  There isa
> > shaking in the steering wheel when the brakes are applied.  The cost for a
> > standard brake job (new pads and rotor resurfacing) is $169 at the dealer.
> >  I told them no, considering I had the job done not that long ago. I am
> > questioning their work and wondering if I should try going somewhere else,
> > or see if I can get the rotors replaced without getting new pads.  Since I
> > got 47k out of my first set of pads, I am reluctant to change them out so
> > soon.  Is it possible (or logical) to replace the rotors without replacing
> > the pads?  I am kind of reluctant to have them resurfaced again ifthis
> > problem were to return.  I am also reluctant to go back to the same
> > place...not really trusting their work.  What is my best option?  Any idea
> > on the cost just to replace the rotors?

>
> > Thanks

>
> Wow...some interesting questions today.
>
> When you did the brakes, did you use Toyota parts, or did Meineke or Midas
> do it. Meienke and Midas are profit oriented, so they probably used
> Chinese rotors unless you specified others. If you resurfaced them and are
> getting a pulsing through the brake pedal, this is an indication the
> rotors are warped. Don't resurface them, chances are the warping will be
> back in a few hundred miles.
>
> If this is a TOYOTA dealer quoting $169, ask them how much for new rotors,
> and the TOYOTA ones, not the aftermarket ones. Chinese rotora and pads are
> fine for an '85 Celica with 254,000 miles on it if you do your own work
> :), but for an '03 Camry with 60K, I'd pony up either for better rotors
> and pads elsewhere, or have Toyota do it with the OEM spec parts.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


The job was done by a Toyota dealer. This is the same dealer wanting
me to have the same work performed again. I may see what the cost
would be to get new rotors installed. Again, could (or should) this
be done without changing the pads. Since it was a Toyota dealer that
did the work, they should be Toyota pads.

Thanks
 
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Re: Rotor/Brake Job Question

"Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ロク" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:36:07 -0700, bill730 wrote:
>
>> I just had my 2003 Camry in for 60k service at the dealer and was told
>> that it needed a brake job. I have ~61k miles on the car and I had a
>> brake job done exactly 1 year and 1 week ago at the dealer at ~47k miles.
>> I was told that the pads still had plently of life left on them (as
>> expected), but the rotors need another resurfacing. They were resurfaced
>> (or at least I was told they were) at the 47k brake job. There is a
>> shaking in the steering wheel when the brakes are applied. The cost for
>> a
>> standard brake job (new pads and rotor resurfacing) is $169 at the
>> dealer.
>> I told them no, considering I had the job done not that long ago. I am
>> questioning their work and wondering if I should try going somewhere
>> else,
>> or see if I can get the rotors replaced without getting new pads. Since
>> I
>> got 47k out of my first set of pads, I am reluctant to change them out so
>> soon. Is it possible (or logical) to replace the rotors without
>> replacing
>> the pads? I am kind of reluctant to have them resurfaced again if this
>> problem were to return. I am also reluctant to go back to the same
>> place...not really trusting their work. What is my best option? Any
>> idea
>> on the cost just to replace the rotors?
>>
>> Thanks

>
>
> Wow...some interesting questions today.
>
> When you did the brakes, did you use Toyota parts, or did Meineke or Midas
> do it. Meienke and Midas are profit oriented, so they probably used
> Chinese rotors unless you specified others.


And Toyota is a non-profit.

> If you resurfaced them and are
> getting a pulsing through the brake pedal, this is an indication the
> rotors are warped. Don't resurface them, chances are the warping will be
> back in a few hundred miles.
>
> If this is a TOYOTA dealer quoting $169, ask them how much for new rotors,
> and the TOYOTA ones, not the aftermarket ones. Chinese rotora and pads are
> fine for an '85 Celica with 254,000 miles on it if you do your own work
> :), but for an '03 Camry with 60K, I'd pony up either for better rotors
> and pads elsewhere, or have Toyota do it with the OEM spec parts.
>
 
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Re: Rotor/Brake Job Question

On Mar 14, 6:55 pm, Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ロク <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:58:16 -0700, bill730 wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 1:14 pm, Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ロク<[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:36:07 -0700, bill730 wrote:
> >> > I just had my 2003 Camry in for 60k service at the dealer and was told
> >> > that it needed a brake job.  I have ~61k miles on the car and Ihad a
> >> > brake job done exactly 1 year and 1 week ago at the dealer at ~47k
> >> > miles. I was told that the pads still had plently of life left on them
> >> > (as expected), but the rotors need another resurfacing.  They were
> >> > resurfaced (or at least I was told they were) at the 47k brake job.
> >> >  There is a shaking in the steering wheel when the brakes are
> >> > applied.  The cost for a standard brake job (new pads and rotor
> >> > resurfacing) is $169 at the dealer.  I told them no, considering I
> >> > had the job done not that long ago.  I am questioning their work and
> >> > wondering if I should try going somewhere else, or see if I can get
> >> > the rotors replaced without getting new pads.  Since I got 47k out of
> >> > my first set of pads, I am reluctant to change them out so soon.  Is
> >> > it possible (or logical) to replace the rotors without replacing the
> >> > pads?  I am kind of reluctant to have them resurfaced again if this
> >> > problem were to return.  I am also reluctant to go back to the same
> >> > place...not really trusting their work.  What is my best option?
> >> >  Any idea on the cost just to replace the rotors?

>
> >> > Thanks

>
> >> Wow...some interesting questions today.

>
> >> When you did the brakes, did you use Toyota parts, or did Meineke or
> >> Midas do it. Meienke and Midas are profit oriented, so they probably
> >> used Chinese rotors unless you specified others. If you resurfaced them
> >> and are getting a pulsing through the brake pedal, this is an indication
> >> the rotors are warped. Don't resurface them, chances are the warping
> >> will be back in a few hundred miles.

>
> >> If this is a TOYOTA dealer quoting $169, ask them how much for new
> >> rotors, and the TOYOTA ones, not the aftermarket ones. Chinese rotora
> >> and pads are fine for an '85 Celica with 254,000 miles on it if you do
> >> your own work
> >> :), but for an '03 Camry with 60K, I'd pony up either for better rotors
> >> and pads elsewhere, or have Toyota do it with the OEM spec parts.- Hide
> >> quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > The job was done by a Toyota dealer.  This is the same dealer wanting me
> > to have the same work performed again.  I may see what the cost would be
> > to get new rotors installed.  Again, could (or should) this be done
> > without changing the pads.  Since it was a Toyota dealer that did the
> > work, they should be Toyota pads.

>
> > Thanks

>
> Nah, don't resurface them again. Go with new rotors, if you can afford it.
> I mean, they could be resurfaced, but as someone else mentioned, this will
> remove even more meat and cause further warping. But what REALLY surprizes
> me is they even offered to resurface them! Where is this dealer...I want
> to bring my car there!!!!
>
> Rotors are (were) about $55 each from Toyota, and pads are about $30. Too
> bad you haven't mentioned doing the job yourself, if you can. They're
> really easy. Toyota brake design is really good, and easy to work on.
>
> And, I'd ask if they had lifetime on the pads (Ray?) sometimes pads are
> warranteed for life.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I am intrigued by your brake problems. I have a 2003 Camry SE with
67,000 mi. At last oil change (65,000) the brakes still looked great
and they perform as new. The SE has discs both front and rear and I
don't know if they differ from LE's or XLE's.

We live in the mountains of Siskiyou County in far northern
California, so our brakes get a pretty good workout. I had
significant problems with disc warpage on a previous 91 Ford Contour,
but have been very happy with the Camry.

Anyone have any related thoughts?

Incidentally, our Camry has seen the inside of a Toyota dealership
only to have an inxplicably shattered moonroof replaced under warranty
and to purchase an exorbitantly priced replacement remote entry
transducer that I lost.
 
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