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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq at one
point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k. Please tell
me you guys knew that.

Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30, and the
addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you knew that
as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.





"ToMh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm supporting the Pres this time. First time I felt that they are
> being upfront about things and are finally willing to admit mistakes
> and change the course. We can't let Iraq slip into Iranian and Syrian
> control.
> Having Iran control the 2nd largest oil reserve would be devastating.
> Even though I feel they probably screwed it up beyond repair, we should
> support this last effort.
>
> They need to have more troops to be able to actually keep the
> insurgents out. The way it's been is just like VietNam. They chase the
> enemy away, then move on, only to have them come right back. The other
> thing they need to do is to actually build back up the infrustructure,
> so that people can have services, safety and not feel the need to join
> these millitias for protection.
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
:
> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq at one
> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k. Please tell
> me you guys knew that.
>
> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30, and the
> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you knew that
> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.


Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Re: {OT} What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

larry moe 'n curly, 1/12/2007,12:33:11 AM, wrote:

>
> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
> :
> > Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq
> > at one point than we will have after upping the current count by
> > 20k. Please tell me you guys knew that.
> >
> > Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30,
> > and the addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and
> > that you knew that as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k
> > troops.

>
> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?


It means the additional troops won't work unless the rules of
engagement are changed.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
> :
>> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq at
>> one
>> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k. Please
>> tell
>> me you guys knew that.
>>
>> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30, and
>> the
>> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you knew
>> that
>> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.

>
> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>


No, that is not what it means.

It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]


>> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>>

>
> No, that is not what it means.
>
> It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.


Unless... it still doesn't work & even more troops are killed.

Cathy

>
>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
>> :
>>> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq at
>>> one
>>> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k. Please
>>> tell
>>> me you guys knew that.
>>>
>>> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30, and
>>> the
>>> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you knew
>>> that
>>> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.

>>
>> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>>

>
> No, that is not what it means.
>
> It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.



If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing to
complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human beings
as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

In article <[email protected]>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > "larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> >>
> >> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
> >> :
> >>> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq at
> >>> one
> >>> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k. Please
> >>> tell
> >>> me you guys knew that.
> >>>
> >>> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30, and
> >>> the
> >>> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you knew
> >>> that
> >>> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.
> >>
> >> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
> >>

> >
> > No, that is not what it means.
> >
> > It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.

>
>
> If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing to
> complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human beings
> as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.


We're in a war with islamic terrorists. I don't share your opinion.
--
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

" dbu," <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:D[email protected].
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> >
>> > "larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
>> >> :
>> >>> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq
>> >>> at
>> >>> one
>> >>> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k. Please
>> >>> tell
>> >>> me you guys knew that.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30,
>> >>> and
>> >>> the
>> >>> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you knew
>> >>> that
>> >>> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.
>> >>
>> >> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>> >>
>> >
>> > No, that is not what it means.
>> >
>> > It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.

>>
>>
>> If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing
>> to
>> complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human
>> beings
>> as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing
>> it.

>
> We're in a war with islamic terrorists. I don't share your opinion.
> --
>


Nobody's doubting there's a problem with Islamic terrorists. The issue is
that Bush thinks soldiers are toys, not humans.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Re: {OT} What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

JoeSpareBedroom, 1/12/2007,6:30:44 PM, wrote:

> > > If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's
> > > nothing to complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a
> > > felony to use human beings as part of an ill-conceived
> > > experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.

> >
> > We're in a war with islamic terrorists. I don't share your opinion.
> > --

>
> Nobody's doubting there's a problem with Islamic terrorists. The
> issue is that Bush thinks soldiers are toys, not humans.


No, that's not the issue. The issue is we are in a war with Islamic
terrorists.
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

dbu, wrote:

>> >> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>> >
>> > No, that is not what it means.
>> >
>> > It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.

>>
>> If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing to
>> complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human beings
>> as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.

>
>We're in a war with islamic terrorists.


What's that got to do with what is being discussed, which is Iraq,
idiot?
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

dizzy <[email protected]> wrote:
> dbu, wrote:
>
>>> >> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>>> >
>>> > No, that is not what it means.
>>> >
>>> > It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.
>>>
>>> If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing to
>>> complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human beings
>>> as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.

>>
>>We're in a war with islamic terrorists.

>
> What's that got to do with what is being discussed, which is Iraq,
> idiot?


Idiot? Why is Iraq being discussed in a Toyota newsgroup?

Idiot, indeed.

cordially, as always,

rm
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Re: {OT} What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> JoeSpareBedroom, 1/12/2007,6:30:44 PM, wrote:
>
>> > > If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's
>> > > nothing to complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a
>> > > felony to use human beings as part of an ill-conceived
>> > > experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.
>> >
>> > We're in a war with islamic terrorists. I don't share your opinion.
>> > --

>>
>> Nobody's doubting there's a problem with Islamic terrorists. The
>> issue is that Bush thinks soldiers are toys, not humans.

>
> No, that's not the issue. The issue is we are in a war with Islamic
> terrorists.



Are you drunk, too? Are you and dbu in the same bar this evening?
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:16:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>>
>> "larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>>
>>> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
>>> :
>>>> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq at
>>>> one
>>>> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k. Please
>>>> tell
>>>> me you guys knew that.
>>>>
>>>> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30, and
>>>> the
>>>> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you knew
>>>> that
>>>> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.
>>>
>>> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>>>

>>
>> No, that is not what it means.
>>
>> It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.

>
>
>If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing to
>complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human beings
>as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.
>


Talk about an ill conceived experiment....

How about the 'war on poverty'?

How about welfare?

You lefties have RUINED a whole generation of people trying to Hep
them....


--

Scott in Florida
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:47:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>JoeSpareBedroom <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's
>> nothing to

>
>Is a "Soldier" a new kind of Toyota? Made of plastic?
>
>> complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use
>> human beings as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did
>> that. Bush is doing it.

>
>Did Hitler and does Bush post to Toyota newsgroups?
>
>cordially, as always,
>
>rm


Fuck you.....

cordially, as always.....


--

Scott in Florida
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"Scott in Florida" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:16:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]
>>>
>>> "larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
>>>> :
>>>>> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq at
>>>>> one
>>>>> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k. Please
>>>>> tell
>>>>> me you guys knew that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30,
>>>>> and
>>>>> the
>>>>> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you knew
>>>>> that
>>>>> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.
>>>>
>>>> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, that is not what it means.
>>>
>>> It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.

>>
>>
>>If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing to
>>complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human
>>beings
>>as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.
>>

>
> Talk about an ill conceived experiment....
>
> How about the 'war on poverty'?
>
> How about welfare?
>
> You lefties have RUINED a whole generation of people trying to Hep
> them....



Drunk again?
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"JoeSpareBedroom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>" dbu," <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:D[email protected].
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>> >
>>> > "larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> > news:[email protected]
>>> >>
>>> >> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
>>> >> :
>>> >>> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq
>>> >>> at
>>> >>> one
>>> >>> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k.
>>> >>> Please
>>> >>> tell
>>> >>> me you guys knew that.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30,
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you
>>> >>> knew
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.
>>> >>
>>> >> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > No, that is not what it means.
>>> >
>>> > It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing
>>> to
>>> complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human
>>> beings
>>> as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing
>>> it.

>>
>> We're in a war with islamic terrorists. I don't share your opinion.
>> --
>>

>
> Nobody's doubting there's a problem with Islamic terrorists. The issue is
> that Bush thinks soldiers are toys, not humans.


Huh. This sort of tallies w/ my impression from the beginning of tthe war in
Iraq: that GWB sees this whole thing as some sort of board game.

Cathy

>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"Scott in Florida" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:30:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Nobody's doubting there's a problem with Islamic terrorists. The issue is
>>that Bush thinks soldiers are toys, not humans.
>>

>
> You make a LOT of idiotic statements....but this takes the cake!
>
> You truly are a legend in your own mine...
>
> This proves it!
> Scott in Florida
>



"in your own mine" ? Drunk again?
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"Cathy F." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>" dbu," <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:D[email protected].
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]
>>>> >
>>>> > "larry moe 'n curly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> > news:[email protected]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jeff Strickland wrote to ToMh:
>>>> >> :
>>>> >>> Please tell me that all of you KNEW we had even more troops in Iraq
>>>> >>> at
>>>> >>> one
>>>> >>> point than we will have after upping the current count by 20k.
>>>> >>> Please
>>>> >>> tell
>>>> >>> me you guys knew that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Please tell me you know that we had 140k troops in Iraq on Nov. 30,
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> addition of 20k more will push that number to 160k, and that you
>>>> >>> knew
>>>> >>> that
>>>> >>> as recently as mid-2005 we had more than 160k troops.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Does that mean the new surge of about 20K won't work either?
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > No, that is not what it means.
>>>> >
>>>> > It only means that increasing by 20K is nothing to complain about.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's nothing
>>>> to
>>>> complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a felony to use human
>>>> beings
>>>> as part of an ill-conceived experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> We're in a war with islamic terrorists. I don't share your opinion.
>>> --
>>>

>>
>> Nobody's doubting there's a problem with Islamic terrorists. The issue is
>> that Bush thinks soldiers are toys, not humans.

>
> Huh. This sort of tallies w/ my impression from the beginning of tthe war
> in Iraq: that GWB sees this whole thing as some sort of board game.
>
> Cathy


Well, he DID say, during his first campaign, that he spent an hour or so a
day playing video games. That's not appropriate for a person in his
position. He also said he rarely read much other than newspapers. So, he
thinks the world is a video game, and he doesn't read history, which anyone
sane knows is a fatal error.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
Re: What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

"Scott in Florida" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:49:43 GMT, dizzy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>We're in a war with islamic terrorists.

>>
>>What's that got to do with what is being discussed, which is Iraq,
>>idiot?

>
> We are fighting Islamic terrorists in Iraq....idiot....


We are fighting in Iraq. We are *supposedly* fighting Islamic terrorism, in
general - triggered by 9-11, when terrorism Middle Eastern style finally
ignored the oceans & "came home" to Americans. The two don't fit together
all that well. (How many of the terrorists responsible for 9-11 were
Iraqis?) But it sure does fit with what GWB - who was hell-bent on getting
Saddam & waging a war - wanted us to believe.

Cathy


>
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>
 
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Re: {OT} What no comments on Bush's new iraq Plan?

JoeSpareBedroom, 1/12/2007,8:41:30 PM, wrote:

> "badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > JoeSpareBedroom, 1/12/2007,6:30:44 PM, wrote:
> >
> >>> > If you think soldiers are objects made of plastic, than there's
> >>> > nothing to complain about. In my mind, it's equivalent to a
> >>> > felony to use human beings as part of an ill-conceived
> >>> > experiment. Hitler did that. Bush is doing it.
> > > >
> >>> We're in a war with islamic terrorists. I don't share your

> opinion. >>> --
> > >
> > > Nobody's doubting there's a problem with Islamic terrorists. The
> > > issue is that Bush thinks soldiers are toys, not humans.

> >
> > No, that's not the issue. The issue is we are in a war with Islamic
> > terrorists.

>
>
> Are you drunk, too? Are you and dbu in the same bar this evening?


Sorry, Joe. I don't drink alcohol anymore. How about you, are you
lucid?
 
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