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I'm willin' to pay the 8.99 a quart for this motor oil but I need to know if we have Toyo users that can vouch for the oil being WORTH my monies.
 

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it depends. royal purple is some quality oil and if your going to make it well worth it, then it should be worth your monies. if your just driving around the town and getting around, then i would say its not worth it. fully syn. is good enough for me =|
 

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oil has been covered before use the search

if u want to use ur money on royal purple do so..u wont push ur car anywhere close enough to jusifying $50 for motor oil alone

most people will agree to mobil1 fully synthetic
or someone like me with 260000MILES using regular 5W-30 and a quality filter from wix
 

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02_SLE_6 said:
it depends. royal purple is some quality oil and if your going to make it well worth it, then it should be worth your monies. if your just driving around the town and getting around, then i would say its not worth it. fully syn. is good enough for me =|
:D

I would stick with Mobil 1 synthetic from Wal Mart for $20 for a 5 quart container.
 

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Valvoline Max Life. I love it, and it coats very well. here's a shot of 10w-40 after a month and 1,500 miles. We get it locally for $17 a gallon.

 

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Lord_Anarchy said:
I'm willin' to pay the 8.99 a quart for this motor oil but I need to know if we have Toyo users that can vouch for the oil being WORTH my monies.
4 Road Racing Championships:D ZERO engine problems.

Royal Purple is THE BEST imo:)

Jeff Watson
Houston,Tx.
 

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Some of the Supra owners run royal purple with great results (if you can call it that...nothing's ever had a problem with it anyhow). It's a pure synth like redline, but a little less common. Amsoil is another choice for pure synth oil, that's a little cheaper and trusted by some of our local supra owners.

Bob
 

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Since I'm more of the older-motor guy, Castrol GTX does it here... just about the best dino oil you can get?
 

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Re: Re: Royal Purple

JWatson said:
4 Road Racing Championships:D ZERO engine problems.

Royal Purple is THE BEST imo:)

Jeff Watson
Houston,Tx.
Royal Purple has a habit of thinning below grade during a normal use interval. Whether or not this might be harmful to any particular user during in their application is another matter.

One of my very favorite internet sites is Bobistheoilguy.com. It's great because not only does it have a wide variety of sections in which members can test their impressions and opinions against one another, it also has a Used Oil Analysis results section, where you can see the objective results of tests done on oil after it has been used (there's also a section for posting results of testing of virgin oil). The main forum page can be found here: BITOG FORUMS . The UOA (used oil analysis) section is here: Used Oil Analysis Section .

Try the UOA section, and check on RP, and you'll see what I mean. There are some good reports, but also the troubling thinning trend is apparent.

Be careful of BITOG -- it's horrendously addictive for motorheads. . .
 

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Do you guys think that an oil can be too good for a car?

Example:

The guy across the street has an Escort that is totally stock with the exception of a K&N air filter. He said he doesn't like dino oil because it "isn't tough enough." He's also the type of guy who doesn't know jack crap about cars but he likes to tinker with them. So he changes his oil at 2000 miles because he has nothing else to do and he uses synthetic oil.

Is that just a waste of money or what?:(
 

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Lord_Anarchy said:
I'm willin' to pay the 8.99 a quart for this motor oil but I need to know if we have Toyo users that can vouch for the oil being WORTH my monies.
Please see my prior post, above. RP turns in pretty good overall performance, with the exception of the trend toward thinning during use. The other problem I see is that the UOAs clearly show equal or clearly better performance from other synthetics that cost substantially less. I'd recommend that you peruse and search the BITOG UOA section looking for engine/vehicle combos like or similar to yours and see what oils produced the best results. Look particularly for gross wear products (iron, aluminum, chromium, etc.) and bearing material (lead, tin, aluminum, depending upon your bearing compostion). Chances are you'll find an oil that equals or beats RP for less money.
 

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Edmond said:
Do you guys think that an oil can be too good for a car?

Example:

The guy across the street has an Escort that is totally stock with the exception of a K&N air filter. He said he doesn't like dino oil because it "isn't tough enough." He's also the type of guy who doesn't know jack crap about cars but he likes to tinker with them. So he changes his oil at 2000 miles because he has nothing else to do and he uses synthetic oil.

Is that just a waste of money or what?:(
Probably a total waste. I know I sound like a broken record, but again, look at those UOAs (UOA section, again) . You'll see good syns in healthy engines routinely going 7500 to 10000 miles, no problem. Ironically, the KN may cause an increase in dirt contamination, which will show up as silicon in the UOA. This is ironic because with an improperly handled KN, he may be getting enough dirt in there to warrant very short change intervals. But if that's the case, the syn is also a waste of money. The test results also show that good dinos can do a fine job, just not for as long as a syn. This was a surprise to me, but facts are facts, and I've changed my "assumptions" having seen the proof myself.
 

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ekpolk I'm on bob's forum also. IMHO that's a great place for oil anylasys, but don't forget a lot of those say as much about the engine as they do the oil.

Edmond 2000 and 3000 mile oil changes are BS on a good engine with dino oil.

I'm 21, does anyone 25 or older not remember that the "change the oil every 3,000 miles" crap didn't start until around 20 years ago?
 

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I'd stick w/ Mobil one. look @ the site Ekpolk posted. people are going 10K + w/ Mobil with no problem.
 

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Toysrme said:
ekpolk I'm on bob's forum also. IMHO that's a great place for oil anylasys, but don't forget a lot of those say as much about the engine as they do the oil.

Edmond 2000 and 3000 mile oil changes are BS on a good engine with dino oil.

I'm 21, does anyone 25 or older not remember that the "change the oil every 3,000 miles" crap didn't start until around 20 years ago?
It's true that you must consider the engine-oil-use pattern triangle as a whole. That said, RP, which I've tried myself once with fine results, does seem to have that thinning tendency in several different settings, thus my statement to that effect, pointing to the oil.

Having messed with a KN myself once, I realized that it's not as easy as it seems to use the thing properly. Too much oil, and you'll mess up your TB and airflow sensor with oil, which will hold on to dirt, and too little and the thing won't filter right. Having been very careful with my KN, I still found a light coating of dust on the inside of the intake tube upstream of my supercharger :eek: and immediately decided that was the end of KN for me. Generally, you're right about 2-3k oil changes being BS, but if you've got poor air filtration for whatever reason, it may be a different story.

I'm 43 and can remember hearing various entities touting 3/3 oil changes since I became aware of cars as something more than a tool my Mom used to drive me to hockey games. That would be 30-something years. I've heard of higher and lower recommendations (500 miles is the shortest I've ever heard of, from the 1920s), but yeah, the silly 3/3 has taken hold with a vengance. Actually, it was probably not a bad idea when early multi-vis oils, with poor, sludge-prone vis index improvers first became widely prescribed for use in mainstream cars (mid-60s to mid-70s). Nowadays -- BS.
 

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Gotta wonder if they were just dumping in crude oil in the 1920's tho LoL! I agree tho, any modern oil, dino or not, in a good condition engine has no excuse not to go 4500m.

Funny my grand dad, who was a master oiler @ the gadsten goodyear plant said they didn't start that to the late 70's. Dad said he had never heard of it until the early 80's. Well atleast I spotted myself 4 years then.
 

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It's not the oil that fails as much as it is the oil filter that fails. I'm part of an online Corvette forum and there are folks there who use the synthetic for 10-15 thousand miles. They change the oil filter every 3,000 and fill the oil back to the required level. When they reach the 10-15 thousand miles mark, they change the oil and the filter.
 

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Yeah. A good *true* high quality synthetic that starts with a high quality stock in a good engine should get atleast 7,500 miles. 10,000 to 15,000 now a days is common.

Amisol really can go 30,000 miles in a good engine with a filter change @ 15,000 miles.

I do the 7,500 mile thing... I've done 10,000 and 12,000 and that is just too long for my tastes.
 
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