[scion2005tc]

Well the word on the street is that the new 06 Civic Si is fast...it dose the 1/4 mile in about 15.1 and that is stock....now the tC SUPERCHARGED dose the same thing....i dont know about you but that is pathetic....i wanted the S/C and i have race headers (alphawerk) and Axle Exhaust (Tusido)....i want a good time on the 1/4 mile, better then that....lot better and i need to hear what other supercharged tC's are runnin....is it true that that is it just a low 15.1 or dose it go in the 14's without the pulley (i will get the pulley too but want to kno what the S/C it self will do) help us out.......thanks

 

[white3ch0c0late]

What you don't seem to realize is that the Si is more expensive than the S/C tC. The MSRP for the lowest model Si is $20,540 MSRP. You can get a tC S/C'd for under $20,000. With that, the tC still puts out better numbers than the Si. The Si's stock weight is 2877 lbs. The tC weighs in at 2905 lbs. Stock, the Si has 197HP, but a measly 139 ft-lb of torque. The tC comes STOCK with 160HP and 163 ft-lb of torque. With the S/C, you're shooting the HP numbers up to at least 200-210, and the torque gets a nice jump as well to 184 ft-lb. That being said, the tC has a MAJOR advantage over the Si. At the line, a tC destroys it.

 

[scion2005tc]

ok well ya when you look at the price diff then ya but for me bottom line....i hate civic's (sry civic ppl) and to read that a stock civic runs almost as well as a S/C tC....it kills me cuz i dont wanna believe it and my friends abuse me.....truthfully i dont think that its true.....i think that the tC is much faster with the S/C....at least i hope it is and i really just need like the 1/4 mile time of a S/C tC to really kno i guess...and ya i agree wit the weight, hp, and tourque #'s and like i said i hope its faster lol........

 

[white3ch0c0late]

Yep. The ONLY advantage that the Civic has over the tC is that the tC comes equipped with a 5-speed tranny. The Si comes iwth a 6-speed sequential tranny. Also, the Si comes standard with a limited slip differential system, so it puts torque to use efficiently. But even with that, by sheer numbers, the tC SHOULD be faster than the Civic. I'm with you, man. Haha. Besides... the new Civic is pug fugly. :lol:

 

[scion2005tc]

Yep. The ONLY advantage that the Civic has over the tC is that the tC comes equipped with a 5-speed tranny. The Si comes iwth a 6-speed sequential tranny. Also, the Si comes standard with a limited slip differential system, so it puts torque to use efficiently. But even with that, by sheer numbers, the tC SHOULD be faster than the Civic. I'm with you, man. Haha. Besides... the new Civic is pug fugly. :lol:

actually the civic si wit the spoiler and what not aint that bad lookin......i hate the windshield wipers sooooooooo much.....its nasty.....and the way they have the speedometer....ya it dont hit my taste...... i kno about the LSD and im pretty sure they got 1 for the tC......what u gotta do to install that by the way.....and the 6-speed trans would b great if the tC had that......what do u see a S/C tC run in the 1/4 mile.......im still worried im paraniod lol

 

[19xx]

Planning to buy a sub 25,000 car, and I'm not convinced with the numbers either. whitecholocate's explanation is rather unrealistic because who buys a base model car with just a supercharger. Even then you'll plan to add accessories later in life. No moonroof? No aftermarket wheels? No CAI? No TRD exhaust? It'll be ridiculous. We will say $22,000 MSRP at the cheapest.

Even if I'm toyota-biased, unless I'm begging for a manual transmission and a coupe form, a 2007 camry 2GR will completely wipe it off the floor, with 33% more horsepower, more torque, better fuel economy in realistic terms (i.e. going uphill and initial acceleration), the benefit of using regular gas, with maybe costing a thousand more, or two with some options.

Reliability of a NA engine pretty much counters the turbo option for the TC with less maintainence in the long run. Did I also mention: No turbo timer? No A/F regulators? No need to remove parts to pass emission in CA? Power delivery all over the curve instead of past-3000rpm? Less heat? This can go on and on.

I haven't even talked about the Civic. In general I don't like how Honda make the doors too thin which is more suspectible to dents and scratches. Other than that it has ample power with a LSD to counter road imperfections while turning.

You can get an Impala LT if you can get past the import world, for the same price if not less BEFORE another employee discount strikes again. But too much plastic for me, no thanks!

19xx

 

[white3ch0c0late]

Planning to buy a sub 25,000 car, and I'm not convinced with the numbers either. whitecholocate's explanation is rather unrealistic because who buys a base model car with just a supercharger. Even then you'll plan to add accessories later in life. No moonroof? No aftermarket wheels? No CAI? No TRD exhaust? It'll be ridiculous. We will say $22,000 MSRP at the cheapest.

The tC comes stock with 17" alloys, dual moonroof, leather, the S/C'd tC comes with the TRD exhaust AND a CAI, and many other options as a base. There are only two versions: manual and auto. They both come with all the same options standard.

 

[scion2005tc]

well ya all these things come standard.......more things come wit this car at this price then any car in the price range but ya.....im still hopin that the S/C will but me in the mid to low 14's ya kno....any1 kno 4 sure if it will