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ok well this is how i look at it but i could be wrong. the rippmods is around 3k, yikes. plus building bottom end= go rob a bank.

for 3k though i could make my own homemadeturbo setup with manifold/turbo, everything for around 1.2k maybe. Then building the bottom end with importperformanceparts 5sfe engine kit with forged pistons/rodsbearings.

can anyone give their advice on the supercharger vs. the hmt setup ?

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the stage1 Rippmods SDS setup is for 5psi and goes for $3200 and you dont need to build bottom end for that setup but keep in mind this kit is totally complete including fuelpump,injectors,boost sensitive regulator and even electronics. The home made turbo kit project could come out less but are you including everything needed and will it be as safe as a kit that was already designed for the engine and tuning that was already done and tested ?. If you want turbo you should atleast check out Burien Toyota Performance's turbo kit for our 5Sfe's :).. even their kit doesnt come with everything that the Rippmods SDS kit comes with but atleast it was designed,tuned and tested on the engine :)

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well obviously the supercharger is going to be guaranteed to work, and some will say superchargers require less maintenance (you also wont have to build the kit yourself). on the other hand, turbos are much easier to upgrade, and better hp/$$ ratio imho.

personally i thought i was set on supercharging- but turbo seems to be the best bang-for-the-buck. i will say its all a matter of how much power you want to have out of your camry. each one of those setups has its own good/bad points to it.

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shook said:
the stage1 Rippmods SDS setup is for 5psi and goes for $3200 and you dont need to build bottom end for that setup but keep in mind this kit is totally complete including fuelpump,injectors,boost sensitive regulator and even electronics. The home made turbo kit project could come out less but are you including everything needed and will it be as safe as a kit that was already designed for the engine and tuning that was already done and tested.

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exactly, if you arent totally sure you can build a kit yourself, id recommend SDS.

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yeah =\ i just cant see dishing 3 biguns for one tho =X Ill look into both hard, thanx guys
 

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Your not going to be able to build a custom turbo set-up for that cheap bro. Unless they make all the piping already. Otherwise everything is going to need to be made custom. Which as you can ask Wraith or Tony, will blow your wallet.

Superchargers are always a good by. Instant power with nice torque gains. But most of the ones made for Camrys a pretty weak. But the up side is you don't need to build your engine for them.

I'd go Supercharge anyday :thumbup:
 

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Turbos rule over superchargers... our engines cant afford more parasitic drain like that of a pulley from a SC
 

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First off, IMO the $3K Ripp is asking is fair. If I had a 4 banger and wanted hassle free boost, I wouldn't hesitate.

As for the age old dilema of SC vs Turbo...you'll never get a straight answer. There are too many variables to account for to be able to say that one is superior than the other. Obviously ecomonics plays a huge role, but there are other factors to consider aswell (availabiltiy, driveabilty, maintanence, supporting peripherals)

I personally love my SC. I got it for a great price. The pwr is linear and predictable and perfect for zipping around in the city. Easy install. Maintanence free - in stock trim. Essentially, it's street friendly and can be driven daily without any concerns. If I was looking for pure speed though, SC wouldn't be my first choice.

Here are some great past discussions
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39194&perpage=15&highlight=parasitic&pagenumber=1
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18548&perpage=15&highlight=parasitic&pagenumber=1
 

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Your not going to be able to build a custom turbo set-up for that cheap bro. Unless they make all the piping already. Otherwise everything is going to need to be made custom. Which as you can ask Wraith or Tony, will blow your wallet.

A budget turbo system is far cheaper...

If you get all the parts, such as complete fuel system upgrades (pump, injectors, lines), complete engine management, accessories, etc... it would be expensive.

But for a budget turbo setup, the key is to use all factory components. When I first had my turbo setup running, it only cost about $1200 USD to get the car running and lay down 268 WHP/TQ.

The setup consisted of a used CT-26, an intercooler, piping and fluid connections, an SAFC and a blow off valve. Fuel system was stock, and the only management was an Apexi SAFC.

Of course, the power wasn't enough for me so I went for a full blown turbo setup. That, in reality, gets expensive fast :)
 

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does anybody know what you could do to upgrade the rippmods s/c and what is the biggest hp gain that you might be able to get from it.
 

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I heard 50% but I could be wrong. I am also lookin but going the route of supercharging if and when available for my 3vzfe
 

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The only problem with S/C is that we have Camrys. They don't make any decent Superchargers for Camrys.

Now if you look at a Company like KenneBell. They have superchargers that will give you 14psi across the board. 'Blowzilla' will boost a stock Mustang Cobra (290hp without the suprercharger) to 650hp at the wheels. They put down some insane power.


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SmokingTiresV6 said:

Now if you look at a Company like KenneBell. They have superchargers that will give you 14psi across the board. 'Blowzilla' will boost a stock Mustang Cobra (290hp without the suprercharger) to 650hp at the wheels. They put down some insane power.


displacement + forced induction = :thumbup:
 

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yeah, tony, i have a ct-26h and a mkiii fmic as well... kinda wanted a single turbo setup for temporary, just so i can smoke the local rice boys and stangers, then get the SC TT stage 3 once thats out
 

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SmokingTiresV6 said:
Unless they make all the piping already. Otherwise everything is going to need to be made custom. Which as you can ask Wraith or Tony, will blow your wallet.

or put you in the po'house like me ... stuck eating cup'o noodle soup for days on end...
 

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displacement + forced induction = :thumbup:
There's a 1.7L difference in displacement yes. But if you notice I also gave the HP change. It was massive, beyond what displacement could have done. It's just the design of the charger.

Procharger also makes ones for Mustangs that don't come near those kinds of results. It's called a quality product :)
 

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A budget turbo system is far cheaper...

If you get all the parts, such as complete fuel system upgrades (pump, injectors, lines), complete engine management, accessories, etc... it would be expensive.

But for a budget turbo setup, the key is to use all factory components. When I first had my turbo setup running, it only cost about $1200 USD to get the car running and lay down 268 WHP/TQ.

The setup consisted of a used CT-26, an intercooler, piping and fluid connections, an SAFC and a blow off valve. Fuel system was stock, and the only management was an Apexi SAFC.

Of course, the power wasn't enough for me so I went for a full blown turbo setup. That, in reality, gets expensive fast :)
the thing is too i have almost free manderal bending and welding by my dad's friend in exchange for some yardwark so i can get pipes. I think im going with turbo guys, l8er

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does anybody know what you could do to upgrade the rippmods s/c and what is the biggest hp gain that you might be able to get from it.


Well stage1 is 5psi and you can easily get 8psi just from changing the drive shaft pulley, add the oversize crank pulley + stage1 5psi pulley and you get 11psi which is what im running now, replace the 5psi pulley with the 8psi pulley and using the oversized crank you can get anywhere from 14 - 17psi. As long as your motor and your trans can handle the Vortech blower thats used in the Rippmods SDS kit can push out an extra 500+ hp and 25psi (correct me if im wrong Ross) :)

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