[CovertCamry]

This hose has been broken off for a very long time but I recently was given the car and I want to put it in the best shape possible.

http://imgur.com/XpgawX1

The hose is one of two that is coming off of this particular part:

http://imgur.com/qk5fOjR

This is the view that includes the air filter with the broken hose being all the way at the bottom.

http://imgur.com/gy1wbRa

I'm guessing this has something to do with a very old post on this forum but the referenced solution is no longer active, the page leads to a 404 error here: Broke one of the vacuum hose connections on the air...

 

[sdspeed]

This one?
Worked fine for me?

Broke one of the vacuum hose connections on the air...

I accidentally broke one of the vacuum hose connections located on the air assembly cover (the one closest to the front of the vehicle and by itself) while changing the air filter today. I'm having a hard time locating a new one, let alone a used one. Can someone help me with a part number...

www.toyotanation.com

 

[CovertCamry]

This one?
Worked fine for me?

Broke one of the vacuum hose connections on the air...

I accidentally broke one of the vacuum hose connections located on the air assembly cover (the one closest to the front of the vehicle and by itself) while changing the air filter today. I'm having a hard time locating a new one, let alone a used one. Can someone help me with a part number...

www.toyotanation.com

All of the images from the OP are deleted, as well as this link that was the solution: http://robofitinc.thomasnet.com/category/barb-fittings?

is broken my guy.

 

[sdspeed]

The images were stored by a 3rd party server so not surprising.
Here's the web page to the company that sells barbed fittings that can be inserted into the box for the hose.

http://www.robo-fit.com/index.html

 

[CovertCamry]

That helps, I was more trying to find the guide that was posted on that website of how to drill it, and exactly which parts would fit. All information that was lost there.

Moreover I'm really interested to find out what this disconnected hose has impacted? It's been off for years at this point and what does not having it connected do to my car?

Many thanks!

 

[sdspeed]

Maybe?
P/N 17330-0A010 Air Control Valve
I'm confused now, is this the valve with the broken connection on your's?

 

[CovertCamry]

From what I've gathered so far from reading through countless threads for hours: I believe the part you linked is what has the broken connection, yes.

It seems that the VSV is supposed to have two connections to complete the vacuum in the hoses seen here in this diagram, the broken connection is to the Air Control Valve.

http://imgur.com/MMHtMf1

I'm trying to figure out why I've been able to drive with the broken connection to the Air Control Valve for years and if that's making me have less horsepower or just wasting gas? I also was confused because I thought the part that has the nipple on it is the Actuator because of the diagram as well. I didn't know the actuator was simply a part of the Air Control Valve.

 

[sdspeed]

Sorry my p/n was for a 2005 but close. I agree, confusing.
Local salvage yards probably have what ya need, doubt thats a high demand part even though new isn't terribly expensive.
Check car-part.com for a yard near you.

 

[CovertCamry]

Yeah since it's literally just the rubber vacuum hose I'm going to try and just tie something around it so it doesn't slip off the nipple. Do you have any idea what having it disconnected has been doing? Poor performance perhaps?

 

[sdspeed]

I've been trying to figure that out. Not really familiar with that VSV but assuming the canister the hose connects to has a diaphragm in it that may operate the valve with pressure changes like an accordion. Perhaps emissions related, haven't looked up that particular VSV. Probably more efficiency than power related. Should be interesting once you get it secure and drive it a bit. If it throws a code go back and dis-connect it. lol

 

[guyslp]

Do you have any idea what having it disconnected has been doing?

Quite possibly nothing or very nearly nothing. This could be particularly true if compensatory adjustments (whatever those might be) were made years ago.

As @sdspeed implied, it will not come as a shock to many of us if, after the repair is done, a code ends up being thrown.

 

[Riick]

First...you might be able to use an uncompressed rivet, or two, stacked, as the hose barb.

Iirc, those vac hoses control whether car pulls air from near road surface beneath the car, or from the top. Vaguely remember it had something to do with rain??

 

[CovertCamry]

Quite possibly nothing or very nearly nothing. This could be particularly true if compensatory adjustments (whatever those might be) were made years ago.

As @sdspeed implied, it will not come as a shock to many of us if, after the repair is done, a code ends up being thrown.

Would it throw a code because something is wrong with it connected or because maybe the sensor will be tripped again after years of it being "ignored" lol

 

[CovertCamry]

First...you might be able to use an uncompressed rivet, or two, stacked, as the hose barb.

Iirc, those vac hoses control whether car pulls air from near road surface beneath the car, or from the top. Vaguely remember it had something to do with rain??

I was VERY much hoping that this would result in some dramatic jump in my MPG because potentially the engine was getting so much air even when it didn't need it (at idle) and then this will fix that. Sure would be a great surprise but I'm not getting my hopes up yet. Appreciate commenting!

 

[Donald E George]

I've been trying to figure that out. Not really familiar with that VSV but assuming the canister the hose connects to has a diaphragm in it that may operate the valve with pressure changes like an accordion. Perhaps emissions related, haven't looked up that particular VSV. Probably more efficiency than power related. Should be interesting once you get it secure and drive it a bit. If it throws a code go back and dis-connect it. lol

That is a vacuum actuator which opens to provide more air when power demands increase. It is just a second supply of air for the throttle body. The solenoid actuator opens/closes the lower air inlet duct. At higher engine RPMs, the engine will be starved for air to match the increase in fuel from the injectors. I haven't checked a price for that component, but you can be sure TMC thinks it's $$$. Regards

 

[sdspeed]

Interesting!
The one I checked was around $130 bucks from Toyota which I thought wasn't too bad.
Lots of them in local salvage yards for less.
Wonder if OP will notice a difference when it's corrected.

 

[CovertCamry]

That is a vacuum actuator which opens to provide more air when power demands increase. It is just a second supply of air for the throttle body. The solenoid actuator opens/closes the lower air inlet duct. At higher engine RPMs, the engine will be starved for air to match the increase in fuel from the injectors. I haven't checked a price for that component, but you can be sure TMC thinks it's $$$. Regards

Interesting, so with it currently being disconnected, the engine has as much air as it needs to perform at high RPMs? Or because it's disconnected it's getting bottle-necked and wasting gas?

Also what is TMC?

Thanks!

 

[CovertCamry]

Wonder if OP will notice a difference when it's corrected.

Honestly not going to lie I'm quite nervous to trill into the actuator nipple because I'm worried I'll break something. I want to know if it'll throw a code when connected again but now I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble.

 

[sdspeed]

Is there enough of that nipple left to glue the tubing on? If things improve then go grab the assembly from a salvage yard.
Also, it must have been connected at least visually for emissions testing over the years.

 

[CovertCamry]

Is there enough of that nipple left to glue the tubing on? If things improve then go grab the assembly from a salvage yard.
Also, it must have been connected at least visually for emissions testing over the years.

Well, it's an extremely small nipple. It's been attempted to be glued on in the past and you can see the clearance is super close.