I have an '09 S. I normally avoid automated car washes at all costs. However this winter was particularly "salty" in my area and I had to run it through a soft brushless car wash to remove all the salt. Now I've been noticing some really annoying swirls in the paint. Can anyone reccomend a good glazing compound to remove them and do I need to do the whole vehicle or just the affected areas ?
Swirls
1 - 20 of 25 Posts
Joined
·
225 Posts
Just about any liquid polish will take out the swirel marks, I use Mothers brand wax and polish. If you polish it with a random orbitol buffer it would do a realy good job of taking the swirels out. The buffer is a good investment and you will have it for a long time to keep your car(s) looking good.
Joined
·
2,208 Posts
mothers is a good brand but u really need an orbital polisher. go to the mother's website and they have all the things you need with the kind of job that you plan to do.
now here is the take... if you have never polished your car before with an orbital polisher and you plan to do patches of polishing only, you will notice later on that some parts are more shiny than other parts. so you have to decide what you want to do. make sure you have the patience and time if you want to do the whole car.
i just dont know but maybe i am just too meticulous when it comes to shining my car. because for me a brand new car that is not that shiny is an ugly car.
i use the powerball 4paint with an electric drill and fx synwax, both from mothers. look at my avatar.
now here is the take... if you have never polished your car before with an orbital polisher and you plan to do patches of polishing only, you will notice later on that some parts are more shiny than other parts. so you have to decide what you want to do. make sure you have the patience and time if you want to do the whole car.
i just dont know but maybe i am just too meticulous when it comes to shining my car. because for me a brand new car that is not that shiny is an ugly car.
i use the powerball 4paint with an electric drill and fx synwax, both from mothers. look at my avatar.
I have had a random orbitol polisher for years, it does a fantastic job. All you have to do is start with one panel and you will see the difference it makes. You will not want to stop there and have one panel looking realy good and the other ones with a dull finish. Wait till you have a chance to do the job right and do the whole car.
buy a PC7424 detailing kit and do some reading over at autopia
The Porter Cable is the best
I have the Porter Cable Random orbital polisher and use it with the Mother's and Mequires products (The Mother's "Power Polish" is well suited to the 1st step.
Then I use the Mequires 3 step process. The PC cuts the work load better than by half and it has been worth the investment thru the years. The PC is made in China but it seems to have better craftsmanship than most
After that job, I use a claybar, and then Mequires Gold paste wax...comes out great! Luckily I only claybar once a year because you do not use the PC with claybar..
For polishing and paste waxing, you can't beat the PC. To be honest, this is the 3rd auto I have used the PC on. It is a sturdy unit and is worth the money IMHO! The PC + the Mothers power polish is fantastic with swirl marks!:thumbsup:
I have the Porter Cable Random orbital polisher and use it with the Mother's and Mequires products (The Mother's "Power Polish" is well suited to the 1st step.
Then I use the Mequires 3 step process. The PC cuts the work load better than by half and it has been worth the investment thru the years. The PC is made in China but it seems to have better craftsmanship than most
After that job, I use a claybar, and then Mequires Gold paste wax...comes out great! Luckily I only claybar once a year because you do not use the PC with claybar..
For polishing and paste waxing, you can't beat the PC. To be honest, this is the 3rd auto I have used the PC on. It is a sturdy unit and is worth the money IMHO! The PC + the Mothers power polish is fantastic with swirl marks!:thumbsup:
I've yet to find one person who can use a buffer well enough to keep me from seeing minor scratch marks. I prefer hand waxing and polishing and using the right cloth to ensure there are no scratch marks. I never use anything other than an electric blower to dry the car as this eliminates any scratches or water spots. I never have any issues with swirl marks.
Joined
·
2,208 Posts
have you guys ever tried the paint 4 ball yet? im satisfied with it. although i only use it when i see light scratches/single lines that is a bit visible in certain light or angles.
Joined
·
225 Posts
There are 2 devices, a polisher and a random orbitol polisher. You would have to apply a lot of preasure on the random orbitol polisher to make swirel marks.
Pic of Random orbitol polisher: http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/731/vector10RandomOrbitalPolisher.jpg
Pic of car polisher : http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00MBTtVIrsClcdM/7-Car-Polisher-DP1802-.jpg
Pic of Random orbitol polisher: http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/731/vector10RandomOrbitalPolisher.jpg
Pic of car polisher : http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00MBTtVIrsClcdM/7-Car-Polisher-DP1802-.jpg
Joined
·
2,208 Posts
please tell us the difference between the 2 polishers.
Think there's more to it than what you say.
The grinder type is used by professionals. Needs some experience to use. Generates quite a bit of heat and gives great results fast. In the hand of a newbie it can take out the paint.
The random orbital polisher is much easier to use. Rotates slower at random orbits. Hence the name. Takes much more time.
Both definitely gives better results than elbow grease.
Joined
·
2,208 Posts
i have no idea about the porter cable orbital polisher coz i have never used one. what i use is the paint 4ball by mothers. what my car has is a clear coat that toyota uses on Blue Streak Metallic plus 2 more layers of clear coats on top of that. whenever i see a slight scratch or a swirl mark i use my paint 4ball and my car is scratch/swirl free.
so if you say that a lot of wrong information is in this thread i say that is untrue. shining and waxing a car to a perfect shine is 99% skill/patience and 1% tools/materials.
if u have the tools and materials but dont have the skill and patience then it is no good.
Joined
·
728 Posts
You are trying to justify you point by saying that tools are 1% of the equation .
You are wrong. I guarantee I can make any car look about 10 times better with a PC , the correct pads, the proper chemicals and my skill than you ever will with a paint 4ball and some over the counter polish.
Joined
·
2,208 Posts
one thing i dont like in circular buffers is that it cannot go into small spaces or right angles or corners as compared to powerball 4paint. like i have mentioned earlier in this thread as far as im concerned buffing or shining only patches or portions of the car is very unslghtly for me. we have different tastes in how shiny we want our cars to be. and we have different ways in shining our cars.
like i was watching the porter cable detailing video. showed 4 steps on how to remove swirls. the person started with a really nasty portion of swirls on the back end of the vehicle. he did the the back of the vehicle from steps 1 and 2 only. on steps 3 and 4 the video was showing the hood part of the same vehicle which was already very shiny even before steps 3 and 4. i was laughing out loudly and said to myself if i missed anything on the video. hahahaha
very unconvincing way to advertise a product.
like i was watching the porter cable detailing video. showed 4 steps on how to remove swirls. the person started with a really nasty portion of swirls on the back end of the vehicle. he did the the back of the vehicle from steps 1 and 2 only. on steps 3 and 4 the video was showing the hood part of the same vehicle which was already very shiny even before steps 3 and 4. i was laughing out loudly and said to myself if i missed anything on the video. hahahaha
very unconvincing way to advertise a product.
Joined
·
2,208 Posts
OkSlim i am not questioning or doubting your waxing skills or anyone's skill. what i am trying to point out here is that car owner's can easily buy a buffer tool and the needed polishers, waxes, cloths etc. question is do they know how to start using them? which polishing pad and compound to use? how about how much pressure they have to put into the tool while gliding it onto the paint?
now comes the patience and time you have to spend in using those tools. imagine how many kinds of polishing pads you have to keep interchanging with porter cable? there is even the lambswool pad. and the spraying liquid before applying wax or buffing compound. for an ordinary guy who wants to easily shine a car in less time, the porter cable set is just too complicated.
you also said you can make any car look about 10 times better with a PC , the correct pads, the proper chemicals and my skill than you ever will with a paint 4ball. you are very wrong. a car paint finish with more layers of clear coat will always outshine another with 1 layer or none.
1 - 20 of 25 Posts
