lol, your ganna get jumped on now... hehe. but in a way i agree, people have to bitch to get xrunner tires replaced when damn near every xrunner tires starts seperating at VERY low millage. dont get me wrong, i love my toyota, but damn the dealers as such a pain in the ass, sometimes i woundure if its worth it to have to go to court to get something fixed that could cost me my life..........BrandonM7 said:
Be happy you didnt get the Ford. Yes they are recalling but they have alot more things going on that not alot of people know about. 97-03 for instance blow the spark plugs out of the heads. The manifolds crack over time,and alot of them have piston slap because the pistons arent big enough for the cylinders. You can hear them clicking till the motor warms up. Maybe every 2 out of 10 trucks built would blow out the plugs. Ford wants 3k to fix the problem and will not recall it. The 04 and up arent quite as bad but ive heard of 2 cases where the entire motor just crapped out. I knew one of them who needed a new motor at5000 miles and another that had a shattered piston at 36500. Out of warranty so now it sits waiting for another motor. I had an all black flareside 01 that was completely blacked out that i traded in on my 06 Taco. I loved the look of the truck but im not missing it.BrandonM7 said:
We had three Fords prior to getting a Highlander and Tacoma. The reliability stunk. One had cracked heads at 60k miles (bad castings). The other had a complete engine replacement at 30k miles due to piston slap and after 30k more miles the replacement engine had the same problem. These were at the dealer every month getting something replaced that should never have been broken in the first place. Stuff like driveshafts (THREE), clutch pilot bearings, A/C compressors, seat brackets, window regulators, electric mirrors, defective radios and multifunction switches. The dealer was great but I felt bad for them trying to keep customers happy with such a poor product. And I can't figure out why the bread and butter Ford engines consistently put out less hp/ci than any other manufacturer. Never again.BrandonM7 said:
I vaguely remember watching one of those car shows on TV a few years ago that did a comparison between the Tacoma and the Sporttrac in various off road obstacles. They showed each truck trying to creep up a steep hill that was mostly various sized rocks, boulders and rip-rap. The stock Tacoma just creeped up the hill with little or no slippage. The Ford 4wd system was slipping all over the place, the traction sucked, and the guys doing the show were laughing at how uneven the comparison was between the two trucks.rpmspeedyBlue said:
+1 It's been over a year with 16,700 miles on my truck. I should be fortunate that both my Toyota's have not given me any major problems.eyedoc said:
I know Toyota's have problems but fords are still having problems.cj99si said:
Good point but my neigbor is also having problems with the his dealer. It started out that the dealer promised his sport trac (special order) within a month and it ended up getting a the sport trac 6 months later and not the truck he ordered. The only reason he got this truck is that he complained and wrote to the corparate office and the BBB. I guess from reading all the problems w/Toyota they're on the way up like the big 3. Problems and all.BrandonM7 said:
i read that before u edited it and it said ford is to good, not coolviet2100 said:
just had to make sure, i was gonna tell u to go down to the damn ford dealership lolviet2100 said:
Fords recalls are for safety issues, because their vehicles are deadly dangerous. SAFETY recalls are FORCED by the nhtsa. Quality issues are handled through TSBs, which are hidden from the public as much as possible. The nhtsa doesn't force recalls for squeaky gas pedals.BrandonM7 said:
