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Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high priced
part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that thieves are
stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them to
unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost of
replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all four
doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the thieves.
The Highlander doors are even more expensive.


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> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high priced
> part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that thieves are
> stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them to
> unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost of
> replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all four
> doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the thieves.
> The Highlander doors are even more expensive.


$5,200 per door? Times 4 = $20,800. Now you know wutz the rest of yer car's
worth. LOL
 
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"Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high priced
> part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that thieves are
> stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them to
> unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost of
> replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all four
> doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the thieves.
> The Highlander doors are even more expensive.


I think you need to check the facts on this one. I just took a quick look at
the prices for Camry door parts at
http://www.toyota-parts-dealer.com/parts.htm and if you bought every single
part in the door separately, you wouldn't be anywhere near $5,200. The
total cost of all new parts, from this Toyota dealer would be less than
$1800 for a front door. I realize some assembly would be required, but I
also realize that some of the parts are available from alternate sources for
lower prices (and probably lower quality as well). I would guess a junk yard
should be willing to sell you a door for under $1200. Now I suppose stealing
4 doors off a Camry might net a thief a few thousand dollars. However, if
you have the time to steal four doors, why not just take the whole car? I am
confident it would be faster to load the car on a rollback than removing
four doors from a parked car (and less obvious).

Any insurance company that is paying $5200 per Toyota door deserves to go
out of business.

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The figure given was what the insurance agent said they paid the body shop
as the cost of replacing the rear door on the vehicle. If the Tribune
Newspapers report was faulty, tell them, or at least call the insurance
company and tell them YOU will do it for less LOL

mike hunt


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> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them
>> to unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost
>> of replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all
>> four doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the
>> thieves. The Highlander doors are even more expensive.

>
> I think you need to check the facts on this one. I just took a quick look
> at the prices for Camry door parts at
> http://www.toyota-parts-dealer.com/parts.htm and if you bought every
> single part in the door separately, you wouldn't be anywhere near $5,200.
> The total cost of all new parts, from this Toyota dealer would be less
> than $1800 for a front door. I realize some assembly would be required,
> but I also realize that some of the parts are available from alternate
> sources for lower prices (and probably lower quality as well). I would
> guess a junk yard should be willing to sell you a door for under $1200.
> Now I suppose stealing 4 doors off a Camry might net a thief a few
> thousand dollars. However, if you have the time to steal four doors, why
> not just take the whole car? I am confident it would be faster to load the
> car on a rollback than removing four doors from a parked car (and less
> obvious).
>
> Any insurance company that is paying $5200 per Toyota door deserves to go
> out of business.
>
> Ed
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I suppose the insurance company would total a four year old Camry that lost
four doors. Again like air bags the cost of replacement is why one sees so
many late model cars in salvage yards that look like they are not badly
damaged. ;)

mike hunt


"Bassplayer12" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them
>> to unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost
>> of replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all
>> four doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the
>> thieves. The Highlander doors are even more expensive.

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> $5,200 per door? Times 4 = $20,800. Now you know wutz the rest of yer
> car's worth. LOL
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Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires, wheels and
rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A driver's side door
with the power switches could easily approach and exceed $2000. I carry
comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel taken. Just a cost of
living in a city.

"Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high priced
> part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that thieves are
> stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them to
 
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"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires, wheels
> and rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A driver's side
> door with the power switches could easily approach and exceed $2000. I
> carry comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel taken. Just a
> cost of living in a city.


Well, I carry a $1000 deductible on the collision insurance and a $500
deductible on the comprehensive--this keeps premiums relatively low.

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> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them
>> to

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High deductibles on collision coverage can indeed save one a lot of money in
premiums but you might want to check with your insurance agent. I believe
you will be surprised to find how small the difference is in premium is
between $500 deductible comprehensive and $50, or even zero deductible. In
my case it is only $27, per vehicle, more a year for zero deductible

mike hunt


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> "Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires, wheels
>> and rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A driver's
>> side door with the power switches could easily approach and exceed $2000.
>> I carry comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel taken. Just a
>> cost of living in a city.

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> Well, I carry a $1000 deductible on the collision insurance and a $500
> deductible on the comprehensive--this keeps premiums relatively low.
>
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>> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling
>>> them to

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>>

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"Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The figure given was what the insurance agent said they paid the body shop
> as the cost of replacing the rear door on the vehicle. If the Tribune
> Newspapers report was faulty, tell them, or at least call the insurance
> company and tell them YOU will do it for less LOL
>
> mike hunt


I posted here because you are the one reporting it to this group and you did
not provide a reference for the figure. Didn't you think it sounded
unbelievable? I can believe it cost $5200 for a body shop to replace a rear
door but I am sure that figure also included other work (painting, fixing
related damage, etc). Replacing one door might have cost $5200, but I doubt
that replacing four doors would have cost $5200 each ($20,800). The actual
cost of the "door part" was probably only a fraction of the total $5200.

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"Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I suppose the insurance company would total a four year old Camry that lost
>four doors. Again like air bags the cost of replacement is why one sees
>so many late model cars in salvage yards that look like they are not badly
>damaged. ;)
>
> mike hunt


it don't have to be a 4 year old Camry

I saw a new 1997 Ford Escort at the Ford dealer in Manhattan, KS (ford
rent-a-car) that had 600 miles on it, minimal damage to the bumper, both
airbags blown, and windshield wiped out

totalled due to dashboard/airbag/windshield damage
 
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True, anytime any vehicles is damage up to the retail value the insurance
company can total the car. In a case like that one can always choose to
accept a check for the value, less the salvage and fix their car themselves.
Contrary to what many believe there is no law requiring an individual owner
to repair their car to its original condition or to repair it at all for
that matter ;)


mike hunt


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> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>I suppose the insurance company would total a four year old Camry that
>>lost four doors. Again like air bags the cost of replacement is why one
>>sees so many late model cars in salvage yards that look like they are not
>>badly damaged. ;)
>>
>> mike hunt

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> it don't have to be a 4 year old Camry
>
> I saw a new 1997 Ford Escort at the Ford dealer in Manhattan, KS (ford
> rent-a-car) that had 600 miles on it, minimal damage to the bumper, both
> airbags blown, and windshield wiped out
>
> totalled due to dashboard/airbag/windshield damage
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The fact is one can not buy a complete door. You need to buy the door, the
hinges, the latch, the locks, the window mechanism, the glass, the interior
panel and arm rest as well as all of the related switches and/or cranks and
the other doodads one finds on or in a door plus the cost of assembling and
mounting of all that stuff, but I guess one can always choose to leave the
doors unpainted or do without the interior panel to same $1,000 or so. LOL

mike hunt


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> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> The figure given was what the insurance agent said they paid the body
>> shop as the cost of replacing the rear door on the vehicle. If the
>> Tribune Newspapers report was faulty, tell them, or at least call the
>> insurance company and tell them YOU will do it for less LOL
>>
>> mike hunt

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> I posted here because you are the one reporting it to this group and you
> did not provide a reference for the figure. Didn't you think it sounded
> unbelievable? I can believe it cost $5200 for a body shop to replace a
> rear door but I am sure that figure also included other work (painting,
> fixing related damage, etc). Replacing one door might have cost $5200, but
> I doubt that replacing four doors would have cost $5200 each ($20,800).
> The actual cost of the "door part" was probably only a fraction of the
> total $5200.
>
> Ed
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OUT HERE ... when the damage exceeds approx 2/3rds of the car's current
market value ... the vehicle is totaled out. That's why it's so easy to
total out a 3-4 year old vehicle largely do to air bag deployment.

"Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> True, anytime any vehicles is damage up to the retail value the insurance
> company can total the car. In a case like that one can always choose to
> accept a check for the value, less the salvage and fix their car
> themselves. Contrary to what many believe there is no law requiring an
> individual owner to repair their car to its original condition or to
> repair it at all for that matter ;)
>
>
> mike hunt
>
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>> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>I suppose the insurance company would total a four year old Camry that
>>>lost four doors. Again like air bags the cost of replacement is why one
>>>sees so many late model cars in salvage yards that look like they are not
>>>badly damaged. ;)
>>>
>>> mike hunt

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>> it don't have to be a 4 year old Camry
>>
>> I saw a new 1997 Ford Escort at the Ford dealer in Manhattan, KS (ford
>> rent-a-car) that had 600 miles on it, minimal damage to the bumper, both
>> airbags blown, and windshield wiped out
>>
>> totalled due to dashboard/airbag/windshield damage
>>
>>

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Who is your insurance company? With State Farm last chance I check it was
at least $100 difference.


"Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> High deductibles on collision coverage can indeed save one a lot of money
> in premiums but you might want to check with your insurance agent. I
> believe you will be surprised to find how small the difference is in
> premium is between $500 deductible comprehensive and $50, or even zero
> deductible. In my case it is only $27, per vehicle, more a year for zero
> deductible
>
> mike hunt
>
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> "Sharx35" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires, wheels
>>> and rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A driver's
>>> side door with the power switches could easily approach and exceed
>>> $2000. I carry comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel taken.
>>> Just a cost of living in a city.

>>
>> Well, I carry a $1000 deductible on the collision insurance and a $500
>> deductible on the comprehensive--this keeps premiums relatively low.
>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>>>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>>>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling
>>>> them to
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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I have my coverage with All State as well. You are apparently rated
differently than I. What is your annual premium? I will be 80 years old in
March and my wife is shall we say over 65 as well. My total annual
premium for a million dollar policy, no fault, limited tort, stacked
underinsured, uninsured, with $1,000 collision ded and zero comp ded
coverage on a 2005 Mustang GT convertible and a 20006 Lincoln Zephyr is
$1,200.40


mike hunt


"Art" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Who is your insurance company? With State Farm last chance I check it was
> at least $100 difference.
>
>
> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> High deductibles on collision coverage can indeed save one a lot of money
>> in premiums but you might want to check with your insurance agent. I
>> believe you will be surprised to find how small the difference is in
>> premium is between $500 deductible comprehensive and $50, or even zero
>> deductible. In my case it is only $27, per vehicle, more a year for
>> zero deductible
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Sharx35" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> "Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>>> Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires,
>>>> wheels and rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A
>>>> driver's side door with the power switches could easily approach and
>>>> exceed $2000. I carry comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel
>>>> taken. Just a cost of living in a city.
>>>
>>> Well, I carry a $1000 deductible on the collision insurance and a $500
>>> deductible on the comprehensive--this keeps premiums relatively low.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]
>>>>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>>>>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>>>>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling
>>>>> them to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: Talk about expensive parts. ouch

Group: alt.autos.toyota Date: Mon, Jan 2, 2006, 2:56pm From:
[email protected] (Mike Hunter)
I have my coverage with All State as well. You are apparently rated
differently than I. What is your annual premium? I will be 80 years old
in March and my wife is shall we say over 65 as well.   My total
annual premium for a million dollar policy, no fault, limited tort,
stacked underinsured, uninsured, with $1,000 collision ded and zero comp
ded coverage on a 2005 Mustang GT convertible and a 20006 Lincoln Zephyr
is $1,200.40
mike hunt

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Munt,

They figure you can't drive more than 35 MPH at your age..

But you old geezers cause the rest of us to pay higher premiums..

CP
 
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it don't have to be a 4 year old Camry
I saw a new 1997 Ford Escort at the Ford dealer in Manhattan, KS (ford
rent-a-car) that had 600 miles on it, minimal damage to the bumper, both
airbags blown, and windshield wiped out
totalled due to dashboard/airbag/windshield damage
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A '97 Escort???? LMAO...

I think that car at that age is already totaled out...You probably had
to write THEM a check after they wrote it off..
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[email protected] (Charles Pisano) wrote:
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>They figure you can't drive more than 35 MPH at your age..
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>But you old geezers cause the rest of us to pay higher premiums..
>
>CP


Well, if everyone drove at 35 like you accuse us 'old geezers' of
doing then we'd all be paying pennies for insurance, so looks
like you 'young careless children' are causing us mature folks to
'pay higher premiums' eh?...
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-Gord.
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I've been driving since I was 15, and have never had an at fault accident..
The only time I see 35 is on the was up to 70 or 80 and back. LOL

mike hunt


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Re: Talk about expensive parts. ouch

Group: alt.autos.toyota Date: Mon, Jan 2, 2006, 2:56pm From:
[email protected] (Mike Hunter)
I have my coverage with All State as well. You are apparently rated
differently than I. What is your annual premium? I will be 80 years old
in March and my wife is shall we say over 65 as well. My total
annual premium for a million dollar policy, no fault, limited tort,
stacked underinsured, uninsured, with $1,000 collision ded and zero comp
ded coverage on a 2005 Mustang GT convertible and a 20006 Lincoln Zephyr
is $1,200.40
mike hunt

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Munt,

They figure you can't drive more than 35 MPH at your age..

But you old geezers cause the rest of us to pay higher premiums..

CP
 
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