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Are there more than one housing tools?
I have two but this one seems best



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Are there more than one housing tools?
I have two but this one seems best
I don't know if there are different styles of wrenches to remove this type of filter housing. I tried several of what I already had on hand, none worked. I had picked up an inexpensive one from O'Reilly's anticipating that what I owned would NOT work.(First oil change on new to me 07 Sienna)The freaking filter was on so tight it took a 1/2" breaker bar 2 feet long to get it broke loose! Afterwards I looked over the wrench; one or 2 of the "teeth were bent, and the hex nut area was deformed as well. Since I only tighten by hand, I can remove by hand. I returned the wrench and was refunded my $ As with anything, quality is usually related to price.


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well after 35+ years of oil changes, it happened. I broke it.

In the process of wrenching that plastic housing off, with a 1/2" breaker bar, a fin snapped off. enough to make the housing leak. I am incensed.

I have to remove it and compare it to the one from the RAV4, since I replaced that with an aluminum housing.

Thanks schaumburg toyota /S
 

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ultimately the 3/8" drive hole in aluminum was mangled, and yes it was fully engaged...
I went to a 1/2" drive socket for that 1" looking hex. Next up, aluminum housing.

The RAV4 housing was in fact a match
 

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25Nm, about 18 foot pounds.

Maybe they didn't lube the o-ring?
 

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25Nm, about 18 foot pounds.

Maybe they didn't lube the o-ring?
With the plastic type oil canister housing, when we are tighening the canister, the purpose is to get the O-Ring to be sealed, not the canister itself. Whom ever did the job previously over torqued it.
 

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With the plastic type oil canister housing, when we are tighening the canister, the purpose is to get the O-Ring to be sealed, not the canister itself. Whom ever did the job previously over torqued it.
I'm a little dubious about this statement, since the canister has 25 Newton meters molded into it.....
 

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I'm a little dubious about this statement, since the canister has 25 Newton meters molded into it.....
Check out TheCarCareNut channel, as he explains it in detail. That is someone with Credibility.
 

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With the plastic type oil canister housing, when we are tighening the canister, the purpose is to get the O-Ring to be sealed, not the canister itself. Whom ever did the job previously over torqued it.
From my experience trying to help folks with oil changes, some dealers/shops WAY over-torque those. I sent one person I was trying to help to the dealer as the dealer had done the last oil change and told her to have them break it lose - that way if it broke it was their issue and not mine. I changed the oil for her, but made them loosen it as it was flexing like a mofo and I KNEW I would break it. Was kind of surprised they did not!
 

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With the plastic type oil canister housing, when we are tighening the canister, the purpose is to get the O-Ring to be sealed, not the canister itself. Whom ever did the job previously over torqued it.
Thats not quite what he says. He said the surface making contact are not the seal , but the o-ring in the bore. HOWever, he does, without a torque wrench, tighten until the surfaces make contact, then a tiny little snug. He also advises you can use a torque wrench if you like.

I would not tighten until the or-ing goes in there and leave it with a gap between the housing and the block.

regardless, 18 foot pounds would not have necessitated a 1/2" breaker bar and both arms. I imagine they didnt lube it AND over tightened.

and I am getting an aluminum housing, as it works well on the RAV
 

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Thats not quite what he says. He said the surface making contact are not the seal , but the o-ring in the bore. HOWever, he does, without a torque wrench, tighten until the surfaces make contact, then a tiny little snug. He also advises you can use a torque wrench if you like.

I would not tighten until the or-ing goes in there and leave it with a gap between the housing and the block.

regardless, 18 foot pounds would not have necessitated a 1/2" breaker bar and both arms. I imagine they didnt lube it AND over tightened.

and I am getting an aluminum housing, as it works well on the RAV
Aluminum housing is a good choice. I definitely agree with you someone over torqued it.
 

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Those oil filter wrenches suck because they always slip off or they don't have enough torque bite.

Now these aren't a joke. Just using standard long 1/2 ratchet and 6 inch 1/2 extension can still break loose the most seized up filters. When they get stuck on the canister; they come right off when you tighten the new filter on.
 

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well after 35+ years of oil changes, it happened. I broke it.

In the process of wrenching that plastic housing off, with a 1/2" breaker bar, a fin snapped off. enough to make the housing leak. I am incensed.

I have to remove it and compare it to the one from the RAV4, since I replaced that with an aluminum housing.

Thanks schaumburg toyota /S
You say it was a plastic housing; right? Plastic becomes brittle over time, especially with heat cycles. The Car Care Nut advises replacing a plastic housing with metal.
 

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You say it was a plastic housing; right? Plastic becomes brittle over time, especially with heat cycles. The Car Care Nut advises replacing a plastic housing with metal.
Which video was this? He actually said otherwise, they last a very long time if handle and torqued properly.
 

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You say it was a plastic housing; right? Plastic becomes brittle over time, especially with heat cycles. The Car Care Nut advises replacing a plastic housing with metal.
I misquoted the CCN He says the plastic is high grade and will last a long time if not over torqued.
 
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