[Ragusaucy]

I agree, nothing beats snow tires for snow. However driving in 90+ degree heat on snow tires will wear them bald in an extremely short period and they perform very poorly in warm weather. The OP asked for all season tires for his father, perhaps he doesn't have the room to store a 2nd set of wheels/tires or just doesn't desire to change them back and forth seasonally or won't get them changed out in time or a myriad of other reasons. Hell, I have a whole different car I drive in the winter...with all season tires because I also drive it in the summer when the weather is poor or I just don't feel like spending on premium fuel.

I justified the Cross Climate 2s' extra costs by the fact that it's going to be safer, they are mandatory in my area, and the fact that I'd need to store them (inconvenient and may cost otherwise) and then have them either in a separate set of extra rims, or have them reinstalled every change of fall to winter, then winter to spring.

One set to rule them all

Did I mention they look sick AF?

All-Weather tires rule (not all seasons). Unless you get heavy snow, even then I'd still reconsider depending if you live in a city or rural area

 

[Bitter]

I justified the Cross Climate 2s' extra costs by the fact that it's going to be safer, they are mandatory in my area, and the fact that I'd need to store them (inconvenient and may cost otherwise) and then have them either in a separate set of extra rims, or have them reinstalled every change of fall to winter, then winter to spring.

One set to rule them all

Did I mention they look sick AF?

All-Weather tires rule (not all seasons). Unless you get heavy snow, even then I'd still reconsider depending if you live in a city or rural area

Hows the braking performance with them? I was less than impressed with a set on a late Mazda CX-3, they felt very squirmy under hard braking and seemed to easily go into ABS/VSC intervention during a panic stop type braking event.

 

[Ragusaucy]

Hows the braking performance with them? I was less than impressed with a set on a late Mazda CX-3, they felt very squirmy under hard braking and seemed to easily go into ABS/VSC intervention during a panic stop type braking event.

For me they stop on a whim. As per the feel, if you really push them super hard you can definitely feel them edging towards ABS or engaging it at times (I'm talking -25°C with snowing/ice type scenarios), although that's not necessarily bad since peak performance happens right before locking up so that just means they are giving it their all. I've never locked them up fully during hard braking outside of my testing scenarios

 

[underthehood51]

Hows the braking performance with them? I was less than impressed with a set on a late Mazda CX-3, they felt very squirmy under hard braking and seemed to easily go into ABS/VSC intervention during a panic stop type braking event.

Them what?

 

[Tripplec]

I agree, nothing beats snow tires for snow. However driving in 90+ degree heat on snow tires will wear them bald in an extremely short period and they perform very poorly in warm weather. The OP asked for all season tires for his father, perhaps he doesn't have the room to store a 2nd set of wheels/tires or just doesn't desire to change them back and forth seasonally or won't get them changed out in time or a myriad of other reasons. Hell, I have a whole different car I drive in the winter...with all season tires because I also drive it in the summer when the weather is poor or I just don't feel like spending on premium fuel.

There are ALL WEATHER TIRES, engineered for year round use. Nokian came out with them first. Originals were fantastic but their multithread design was horrrible after a year cupping wit horrific noise. I had to dump them. Other companies are making them now. Do some reasure on them and you won't have to swap over. Still not as good as true snows but close and gets you going where an all season it useless.

 

[Bitter]

There are ALL WEATHER TIRES, engineered for year round use. Nokian came out with them first. Originals were fantastic but their multithread design was horrrible after a year cupping wit horrific noise. I had to dump them. Other companies are making them now. Do some reasure on them and you won't have to swap over. Still not as good as true snows but close and gets you going where an all season it useless.

I'm well aware given that selling and installing tires is part of my job. I personally like a more performant tire and run Continental DWS on my daily driver. Good enough in the snow if you drive responsibly, better than most all season tires in the snow actually, while having excellent wet and good dry performance all year long. I'll give up a little snow traction and tread life for higher braking and cornering grip. All weather tires are like any all season tire a compromise but one more geared toward winter and snow traction.

 

[baumann6263]

Fair point, I'll keep that in mind. I was looking at those, I'm glad you recomended them.

I second these tires. Lved in MN my entire adult life and never have had AWD/4WD or true winter tires. These tires are easily the best tires in the snow I’ve had. I dive a 2010 Avalon

 

[nhighlander]

I justified the Cross Climate 2s' extra costs by the fact that it's going to be safer, they are mandatory in my area, and the fact that I'd need to store them (inconvenient and may cost otherwise) and then have them either in a separate set of extra rims, or have them reinstalled every change of fall to winter, then winter to spring.

One set to rule them all

Did I mention they look sick AF?

All-Weather tires rule (not all seasons). Unless you get heavy snow, even then I'd still reconsider depending if you live in a city or rural area

It's funny you mention it being looking slick as my fiancee just got her and she's happy how cool it looks and she's not into cars lol.

 

[Ragusaucy]

It's funny you mention it being looking slick as my fiancee just got her and she's happy how cool it looks and she's not into cars lol.

Well then, I can see why she is the Fiancee then 😎

 

[2VZ-FE]

I can't wait to get rid the the CrossClimate2 on my car. The snow performance is a big disappointment to me. Out where I am, the snow is wet and heavy, and in fresh snow, the CC2 has serious trouble with traction.

I am biased, since I had Nokian WR G3 and WR G4 SUV that did much better in the wet/heavy snow, as expected the legendary CC2 to equal the Nokians I had in the past.

The only good thing about the CC2 in the winter is they are great on packed snow, such as after the plows come through.

Busting a U-turn after being stuck in traffic in this mountain snow... got 3 wheels slipping trying to turn around!!!

 

[Tripplec]

Southern Ontario got more snow than usual this winter in a few bigger dumps. Although not near what the east coast or prairies get. So many are stuck on paved roads in cities and towns where grades exit with most running on all season tire (really, they're summer tires only !!!). That term is a joke and should be eliminated from the industry. For those folks being stuck who went from little traction to almost none on all seasons. Pushing etc is a futile job and when I see someone in trouble with them I don't bother even getting out or risking my tender back from damage. They block roads, ramps imbeded with snow as the ramps are last to be cleared and many street. Many with snow tire would get through. A stuck AWD or 4WD is even harder to move if in well stuck situation especially hung up in snow under the bellie/frame. Been there myself caught in too deep drifting snow in my driveway. Two days to free it....but not the point.

If you want traction and not want to get in trouble in the winter. You have to have tires engineered for the task and those bear the SnowFlake Mountain Symbol !!! Sure some are better than others but unlike Quebec who mandate by law all vehicle have snow tires over the winter period. There rest of the snow covered country doesn't move in bad weather and shouldn't even venture out until everything is totally cleared by crews days later. I am retired but have snows on wheels for all my vehicles (son's included run GSI-6 Toyo's, excellent product IMO). I don't have much roads with even a grade but its the safety factor as well. Traction also works to get Stopped as well as get going. Too many dumb ass driver out there as it is in all weather.

Just do it as no substitute for Winter rated Rubber and why that symbol is important.

 

[nhighlander]

Well ya...you'll want winter tires in areas that aren't treated often or don't get enough plow service. Most high-performance seasons are fine in most areas around here that are constantly plowed, brined ahead, etc etc.

I do miss having snow tires on my WRX. So much fun with more control.