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97' 4WD T100, 210k miles. I pulled a stump out of the ground couple months ago, jerked the truck too much. Trany noises, moaning, gargling, etc. ever since. Got worse, this morning awful, metal noises on the way to work, now it's on the side of the road. It will go into neutral and roll just fine. Can't crank it cause it makes terrible metal noises. So how to tell if it's torque converter or the transmission? Don't think it's worth fixing if it's the transmission. Can torque converter be replaced?
 

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97' 4WD T100, 210k miles. I pulled a stump out of the ground couple months ago, jerked the truck too much. Trany noises, moaning, gargling, etc. ever since. Got worse, this morning awful, metal noises on the way to work, now it's on the side of the road. It will go into neutral and roll just fine. Can't crank it cause it makes terrible metal noises. So how to tell if it's torque converter or the transmission? Don't think it's worth fixing if it's the transmission. Can torque converter be replaced?
Yes...the torque converter can be replaced. :D

It could be the flexplate. Yes...that can be replaced as well. But if it is the flexplate...it's most likely taken out the torque converter, too. :(

Did you check the ATF at all? Is it burnt? How many miles do you have on the ATF?

Where are you in Texas? If yer gonna sell it...send me a PM. ;)
 

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Part number fer the flexplate is 32101-35010.

From www.toyotapartsales.com

3210135010 $253.22 $0.00 $182.68
Automatic transmission - Drive plate
Drive plate, t100, 6 cylinder 1995 - 1998

I would not recommend gitting a used flexplate. It's not worth the risk... ;)

However...you can git a used torque converter... :D

Here's 2 in Tennesee...

Year
Part
Model Description Part
Grade Stock# US
Price Dealer Info
1995
Transmission Torque Converter
Toyota T100 6929 $35 Hilltop Auto Salvage USA-TN(Nashville) E-mail 1-615-262-0461
1996
Transmission Torque Converter
Toyota T100 6 Cyl (5VZFE eng)-AT A 6063 $35 Hilltop Auto Salvage USA-TN(Nashville) E-mail 1-615-262-0461

Here's some used transmissions...

Year
Part
Model Description Miles Part
Grade Stock# US
Price Dealer Info
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 3.4L,AUTO TRANS UL10 $450 Dons Auto and Truck Salvage USA-IA(Des-Moines) Request_Quote 1-800-372-6000 Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 6 Cyl, 4X4- 180,000 A 252713 $450 Al's Foreign Car USA-MO(St.-Louis) Request_Quote 1-888-453-1858 Request_Insurance_Quote
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 NOF $450 Anderson Used Auto Parts, Inc. USA-SC(Belton) Request_Quote 1-800-327-2736 Request_Insurance_Quote
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 SK6274 $450 D and S Light Truck USA-WA(Longview) Request_Quote 1-877-575-1676 Request_Insurance_Quote
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 107K ON SHELF J065T028 $450 American Pickup Salvage USA-AR(Paragould) Request_Quote 1-870-236-8392 Request_Insurance_Quote
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 89K DROVE OUT FINE ON SHELF H0111T027 $450 American Pickup Salvage USA-AR(Paragould) Request_Quote 1-870-236-8392 Request_Insurance_Quote
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 247,000 C I90228 $450 Rock Rimmon Auto Parts USA-MA(Chicopee) E-mail 1-413-592-5565
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 red x-cab.runs+drives 112k shifts perfect 112,118 A $450 Route 7 Auto USA-NY(Hoosick-Falls) Request_Quote 1-518-663-5735 Request_Insurance_Quote
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 6cyl.,AT,4x4,Column 060088 $450 Imports Of Lavergne Auto Salvage USA-TN(Lavergne) E-mail 1-800-966-3720
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 3.4,AT,4x4 Good 070187 $450 Imports Of Lavergne Auto Salvage USA-TN(Lavergne) E-mail 1-800-966-3720
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 3.4L,4X4,SHIFTED GOOD 042657 $450 Shelby and Sons, Inc. USA-IL(West-Frankfort) E-mail 1-800-241-7278
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 4X4,3.4L DOHC,COL,OD,12-96 024431 $429.96 Abco Fridley Auto Parts USA-MN(Fridley) E-mail 1-800-784-8890 1-763-784-8890
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 at,6cly,4x4 167,100 A Y10157 $415 Mendoza's Automotive, Inc. USA-WA(Prosser) E-mail 1-509-882-0500
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 ,W-412,100MILES,OK,NO TOR.,NTS HC4535 $400 Carney Auto Parts USA-IA(Ames) Request_Quote 1-888-262-3808 Please Call Ahead Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 1-95,4X4,3.4L,AUTO,COLUMN 070089 $400 Sunset Beach Auto Parts USA-IA(Des-Moines) E-mail 1-800-383-5201
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 AT,3.4L,4X4,COL,SR5 107,000 A 1S021 $400 A + Auto Recycling USA-OR(Portland) E-mail 800-701-7991 and 503-286-5861
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 3.4L,AT,COL. 197,000 B 040709 $400 B and M Salvage USA-MS(Verona) E-mail 1-800-530-7418
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 164,000 A I90135 $400 Rock Rimmon Auto Parts USA-MA(Chicopee) E-mail 1-413-592-5565

Transmission
#VB000633, $400 McDonough Used Auto Parts South USA-GA(Forsyth) E-mail 1-478-992-9934
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 AUTO 6 Cyl, 4X4,3.4L,AUTO TRANS 152,000 A 90086 $400 Bridgewater Recycling USA-MA(Bridgewater) E-mail 508-697-8733
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 -205000 205,000 C 0022317 $400 Twin Ports Auto Parts Inc. USA-WI(Superior) E-mail 715-392-4728
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 A.T., 6 cyl, 4x4,SWB,STOCK NO. 000327034 000327034 $400 Greg's Core Supply Inc. USA-VA(Woodlawn) Request_Quote 276-238-0779 Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 AT, 6 Cyl, 4X4-295K-295K C 070611 $395 Foreign Auto Salvage - Gold Seal,ARAPro, KATRA USA-KY(Ft.-Wright) Request_Quote 1-800-545-1920 / 1-859-341-1920 Request_Insurance_Quote
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 3.4L,AOD CC0008 $395 Country Boy East, Inc. USA-WI(South-Range) E-mail 1-715-398-6235 / 888-263-0592
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 AT 4X4 AA8145 $375 Rockford Auto Parts USA-IL(Rockford) E-mail 1-815-964-3396 / 800-392-5595
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 AT 160,000 8J0652 $355 Bay Auto Parts - QRP Partner, URG, CARWI, ARA Gold Seal USA-WI(Green-Bay) Request_Quote 1-800-229-2886 Request_Insurance_Quote
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 12-95,4WD,3.4L DOHC,CATO,SR5, NOTE 133,915 A 2C2767 $350 P and D Automotive USA-NC(Pelham) Request_Quote 1-800-292-3428 Request_Insurance_Quote
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 SR5,3.4L,CATO,4X4,COL,1-97 NOTE 97,937 A 5H4194 $350 P and D Automotive USA-NC(Pelham) Request_Quote 1-800-292-3428 Request_Insurance_Quote
1998
Transmission
Toyota T100 101081 $350 Appleton Auto Recyclers- RP+ Member USA-WI(Appleton) E-mail 1-800-352-1055
1998
Transmission
Toyota T100 AOD,3.4 V-6 183,555 B 091065 $350 Hwy. 5 Auto Salvage USA-AR(Little-Rock) E-mail 1-866-525-5520
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 6 Cyl, 4X4- 230,000 C W171 $350 AAA Auto Salvage USA-NC(High-Point) Request_Quote 1-336-886-5076 1-800-672-5810 Request_Insurance_Quote
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 7-96,4X4,3400,AOD,COL,YARD DRIVES 165,877 A 171616 $350 West Edge Auto Salvage USA-IA(Independence) E-mail 1-888-484-9344 / 1-319-334-2048
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 97K,AT,4X4,3.4,STOCK NO. 070630017 070630017 $350 Interior Auto Salvage USA-AK(Fairbanks) E-mail 1-866-837-2787
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 [400-60267] NOF $330 Cars and Parts USA-IN(Columbus) E-mail 1-800-225-9025
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 AT,3.4 6CYL,4X4 279,832 N-313 $325 Harbor Auto Used Part Division USA-MA(Lynn) E-mail 1-781-593-3344
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 73 $300 East End Auto Parts USA-PA(Altoona) Request_Quote 814-943-8821 Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Toyota T100 10-94,4X4,3.4,CAT,DX,CORE,CORE,S N 191,000 A 090568 $250 Newville Auto Salvage, Inc. USA-WI(Edgerton) Request_Quote 1-866-884-3115 Request_Insurance_Quote
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 3.4,AT,4x4,Tilt, cruise,Column 157,000 1559 $250 Rocki Top Auto Salvage USA-WI(Glen-Flora) E-mail 1-715-322-5774
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 LCL,306K, TEST DRIVEN 306,000 C 080504 $150 Landot Used Auto Parts, Inc. USA-OH(Athens) Request_Quote 1-866-781-7272 Request_Insurance_Quote

Here's the ones in Texas only...

Year
Part
Model Description Miles Part
Grade Stock# US
Price Dealer Info
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 6 CYL, 4X4 AT,STOCK NO. 079141034 122,000 079141034 $Call Big Four Auto Parts USA-TX(Austin) Request_Quote 1-800-445-3404 Request_Insurance_Quote
1996
Transmission
Toyota T100 8-95,4X4,3.4,A0D 006216 $Call A Plus Auto Parts USA-TX(Pasadena) E-mail 1-866-278-7055 / 1-713-477-1000
1997
Transmission
Toyota T100 3011 $Call A-Plaza Auto Parts USA-TX(Houston) E-mail 281-820-0022
 

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what's difference in the flexplate and torque converter? do you have to remove the trany to replace those? if so not sure i want to spend that amount of time. i hate to give up on it, had it since 2000, and the engine is immaculate. i'm close to sherman north of dallas.
 

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what's difference in the flexplate and torque converter? do you have to remove the trany to replace those? if so not sure i want to spend that amount of time. i hate to give up on it, had it since 2000, and the engine is immaculate. i'm close to sherman north of dallas.
Flexplate = flywheel (this is what the starter engages to start the engine
Torque converter = power transfer from engine to transmission (like a liquid clutch)

Yes...you'll have to pull the transmission to replace both of those. PM me a price if you really want to part with yer T-100. I'd hate to see that happen but if yer really set on it... ;)

RockAuto has an aftermarket flexplate...fer $122 plus shipping.

DORMAN Part # 04592 {#3210135010} Teeth 120 / Pitch 10 / O.D. 12.036" w/AT

 

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A bad flexplate won't damage a Torque Converter or viceversa. A cracked flex plate will make a heck of a racket too. When it totally breaks it could strand you.

TC's normally don't fail on their own. But if a TC fails it can damage the trans and viceversa. Metal pieces of one in the ATF can ruin the other.
The key factor here would be the trans fluid. Not just the color and smell, but is there any metal particles in it ?
A bad TC can be rebuilt or replaced, but you'd also need to flush the trans.

But it's easy enough to check the flex plate.
Get the truck up in the air and pull the flywheel cover, and the flexplate and TC will be right in front of you.

Looks something like this -

 

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I'll drain the fluid and see what comes out. Are you sure there is a flywheel cover on this model? Can't seem to see that from the haynes manual. Seems like you have to back the trany up some to get in there. I saw a post where some long bolts were used to back up the trany without removing it.
 

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I don't know fer sure if the auto transmission has an inspection plate or not. I do know that the manual transmission has one... ;)
 

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The automatics do have an inspection plate, held in place by 4 bolts IIRC. You can also pull the starter to get a peak at the flex plate.
 

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Looks like it is the flexplate. Took off the cover and can see it is cracked. Drained the trans fluid and it was a chocolate red color but no metal shavings at all. I'm going to get a quote on getting the flexplate replaced. Can the torque converter be tested? If not I'll probably have it replaced too. If it's not too bad I'll probably have it done, not sure I want to tackle the job myself, although it would be interesting, I just don't have that kind of time, I'm borrowing a vehicle right now.

At least now I'm pretty sure it's not the transmisstion.
Thanks for the assistance.
 

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Glad it's not something too expensive! ;)

Hopefully the mechanic you use will torque the flexplate bolts in the proper order and to spec. ;)

Are you gonna order the flexplate from ToyotaPartSales.com or from ToyotaPartsMan here on the forums? ;)

Just click that "Thanks" button if you don't mind... :D
 
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Where is the link for the toyota parts man and what is it?
Can the torque converter be tested? Also I have not been able to find one online yet, any ideas?
How are you able to get 21 mpg? I can only get 18 if I'm lucky. I have a flowmaster muffler and a k&n filter, that's about it.
 

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ToyotaPartsMan... ;)

The highest I ever got was about 28mpg...that was with my aero mods and the outside mirrors folded in. ;)

Not sure how to test the torque converter. :( You could ask TransDude aka John of IPT and see what he sez... ;)

I guess you didn't see the 2 torque converters I linked in post #3?

However...you can git a used torque converter...

Here's 2 in Tennesee...

Year
Part
Model Description Part
Grade Stock# US
Price Dealer Info
1995
Transmission Torque Converter
Toyota T100 6929 $35 Hilltop Auto Salvage USA-TN(Nashville) E-mail 1-615-262-0461
1996
Transmission Torque Converter
Toyota T100 6 Cyl (5VZFE eng)-AT A 6063 $35 Hilltop Auto Salvage USA-TN(Nashville) E-mail 1-615-262-0461
 
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Where is the link for the toyota parts man and what is it?
Can the torque converter be tested? Also I have not been able to find one online yet, any ideas?
How are you able to get 21 mpg? I can only get 18 if I'm lucky. I have a flowmaster muffler and a k&n filter, that's about it.

To test the torque converter, you'll need to do a "Stall Speed" test. Google or get a copy of the FSM for details as it needs to be done quickly and safely.

18mpg in your T100? I get that towing my enclosed trailer cross country. I'll get 21-22 easy unloaded, 24 if the winds are still. I'll get into the low 30's drafting a big rig.

Also, watch your K&N filter - I let the mice eat mine as it did nothing but coat my throttle body and sensors with oil and *gulp* lots of dirt.
 
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To git better MPG fer yer 4WD...you might want to consider putting in some manual Aisin hubs... :D
 

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To test the torque converter, you'll need to do a "Stall Speed" test. Google or get a copy of the FSM for details as it needs to be done quickly and safely.
He can't...he's got a cracked flexplate. :(
 

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I was thinking I would go with a new TC and couldn't find an online place to buy one.

Mine is 4WD, maybe that's why I can't get any better than 18. I mean are there some things you have done that you can attribute the extra mpg's to?
 

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Part number fer the torque converter is 32000-35140.

From ToyotaPartSales.com

Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
3200035140 $920.16 $0.00 $663.84

CONVERTER ASSY, TORQ

I think ToyotaPartsMan will git you a better deal. Shipping from ToyotaPartSales is about $100. No way... :(

Fer a custom torque converter, you might look at IPT's Toyota A340 Series Custom High Stall Torque Converter fer $539 plus shipping. Add in $200 fer a core charge if yer not sending in yer torque converter. ;)

IPT is able to custom modify your converter to suit the characteristics of your vehicle. Improved bearings, lock up clutch material and furnace braised fins yield a tremendous increase in strength and durability.
I think my MPG gains were from being a 2WD, driving around 65mph, max tire pressures on LT tires (50PSI), camper top, grill block, Roadmaster Active Suspension (RAS), belly pan, side skirts, Auto-RX'd (engine, trans, and power steering), synthetic engine oil (Supertech/Walmart), synthetic gear oil in the differential, dropped front air dam, cleaned the MAF and reset the ECU. I did try a RAM air mod on the air intake but took it off fer some rework. Some of those won't make sense fer you if yer doing any kind of off-roading. But you can give a few of them a try after you git yer T-100 back up to snuff. I've got a few threads here documenting what I've done. ;)

I know that my AT tires didn't help at all with my MPG. Thinking about going to some normal tires soon to see if I can up my MPGs even more. :D

Something that I'm not sure if it contributes to my MPG gains or not...but my engine does seem to run hotter than the other T-100s here on the forums. My coolant temps usually run between 204°F and 208°F. I did replace the fan clutch with a new one but it didn't make any difference. When I blocked my grill 66% and had the front belly pan as well as the full belly pan on, my temps did drop down in the 191°F-195°F range...even when I was driving through the desert with ambient outside temps in the 116°F range... ;)
 

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Bam - have you been able to verify your water temp? I am not able to break 198 unless I'm towing up Vail Pass in Colorado.


I don't know of any way to test the torque converter without being able to get it in gear. However, if a broken flexplate did any damage, I'd think it would be very apparent when the trans is pulled away from the engine. There is a good chance that you'll see fluid leakage as well.

Regarding the mpg I get - my truck is very much stock, except for a fiberglass topper (actually dropped my mpg's by 1). I run Denso O2 sensors, Denso dual ground spark plugs, Toyota spark plug wires (don't even think about the Bosch wires - 2/3 broke on me leaving me stranded on a corner in Winslow, AZ - NO JOKE!), and a Fram air filter and fuel filter.
 
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