1) I can't answer don't know what TC uses?SCEXPLORER said:THought I'd throw this in from Scott at Camburg.
It's great to see so much interest in our Camburg products. I'm a little dissappointed that some mis-information is going around though.
Total Chaos makes great products, but here are the reasons why our upper arms are a better product and value than theirs.
1) We use a higher quality Aurora 1.00" teflonlined uniball. It is both made and assembled in the USA. The next best bearing is a mil-spec NHBB
that is about 4x the cost and no one supplies with a kit. In our little world we don't need anything stronger, unlike the aerospace industry.
2) We were the first to offer zerk grease fittings on the a-arm that are used in conjuction with thicker walled 7/8" CNC machined sleeves and energy
suspension polyurethane bushings. This offers less deflection in the arm and keeps the geometry more accurate.
3) We use a smaller 5/8" F-911 bolt compared to TC's 3/4". Since we're using a smaller diameter bolt we're able to get more mis-alignment out of the uniball. Strength is not compromised since we're using an aircraft grade F911 bolt. Your spindle will break way before that bolt does.
4) All our mis-alignment spacers are machined from 17-4 stainless steel. We use nothing but the best. One of the huge differences is how our lower uniball/spindle insert is. It is considerably stronger and costs a lot more to machine. TC and others do it as two pieces which isnt as strong and costs less to make. We have a ton more shear lateral strength because of our design.
5) We put more castor into the arms which gives better straightline stability both on and off-road.
6) The design and geometry TC has will cause the spindle to hit the frame/coil bucket on full compression. We have plenty of clearance. Sprindles or any suspension components coming into contact with anything is a design flaw and shouldnt take place.
7) We use a high-gloss steel gray powdercoat, not black. It holds up very well and we've had ZERO problems or complaints.
8) I'm not sure if TC supplies you with polyurethane grease, we do. We also supply you with zinc-plated washers, just like TC.
- Scott Zindroski
No sorry sorry the rep gave me a choice and agreed to help me get the TC's.SCEXPLORER said:Definitely Noted. I like you wished I went with TC over Camburgs. I only went with Camburgs cus I bought it used for a good price. I just wanted to include the facts from Camburg so people understand what their getting. I'm trying to find one from TC so that everyone can read both the company's and your opinion.
So does this mean you're not getting the replacement camburg UCA to measure for us poor folks who got camburg??
you will love the setup. I was originally going to go with Camburgs too but I researched and found out a number of people had problems with them.andygriffith said:I am glad that I went with the TC's the first time, I was going to go with the Camburg's initially!
Mine are going to go on next Wednesday. Same setup as Hans front and rear.