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'20 Highlander Hybrid likely to overheat towing max load through mountains in middle of summer?

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As this question - towing and hitches - will be asked routinely, all of them will be now in one merged thread.


Has anyone had an OEM hitch receiver installed on the 2020 Limited or Platinum yet? The hands-free liftgate is apparently an issue. Last I heard, Toyota was trying to figure out a work-around. Thanks!
 

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Recent articles sound like Toyota knows about it but hasn't come up with a fix. Current pandemic is causing them issues in Japan too. Likely update is said to be coming out in Early May. So my local dealer says,FWIW.
 

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In terms of a factory solution, I think what @sdspeed said is right. Some people have had the Toyota hitch fitted by dealers who replaced the bumper fascia with that of a lower trim, which deletes the kick sensor hardware.

In terms of an aftermarket solution, there is a thread going in the non-hybrid forum where someone had success with the Curt 13453. It sits immediately below the existing fascia and the kick sensor still works (they posted a video).
 

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Has anyone had experience with the hybrid system overheating, prompting the driver to pull over and stop to wait for it to cool down?

I would like to know how likely it is for the 2020 Highlander Hybrid to overheat while towing near maximum load (3,500 lb) throughout the Rocky Mountains in Colorado and Wyoming in the middle of summer. Would I be better off getting the gas model for this purpose?

This is not a one-time journey, I'll be spending a lot of time driving around in the mountains.
 

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I'm not going to vote because I think you're asking the wrong question. My gut feel is if you're going to be hauling a trailer up to maximum weight through the mountains you'd be well served to get a vehicle better suited for towing - and that ain't a hybrid. Any fuel savings you're envisioning by having the hybrid will evaporate quickly as soon as that 4 cylinder engine tries hauling a load uphill - and yes, that will cause it to run hotter, whether it would be dangerously hot only experience will tell.
 

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+1 on towing 3,500 lbs with a hybrid/4 cyl engine. V-6 with a good transmission cooler is a must.

Another question that has to be asked, what kind of trailer are we talking about? I towed a 3,500 lb pop up camper all over the US from the mid west including Yellowstone and Southern California going to San Diego from Yuma, AZ which was actually more challenging than Yellowstone. The huge advantage of the low profile camper was almost no drag from wind at highway speed because the trailer had a lower profile than the van and I could run 70-75 mph on flat ground easily, but when I rented a U-Haul trailer at half the weight that was taller than the van it really struggled to hold 65 on flat ground. It isn't just about weight. If you are talking 3,500 lbs and a taller profile that is an unworkable situation even for the V-6 for anything beyond local towing.
 
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+1 on towing 3,500 lbs with a hybrid/4 cyl engine. V-6 with a good transmission cooler is a must.

Another question that has to be asked, what kind of trailer are we talking about? I towed a 3,500 lb pop up camper all over the US from the mid west including Yellowstone and Southern California going to San Diego from Yuma, AZ which was actually more challenging than Yellowstone. The huge advantage of the low profile camper was almost no drag from wind at highway speed because the trailer had a lower profile than the van and I could run 70-75 mph on flat ground easily, but when I rented a U-Haul trailer at half the weight that was taller than the van it really struggled to hold 65 on flat ground. It isn't just about weight. If you are talking 3,500 lbs and a taller profile that is an unworkable situation even for the V-6 for anything beyond local towing.
Can you be more specific on what you mean by "it struggled to hold 65 mph on flat ground"?

Do you mean vehicle stability was an issue, or it was revving consistently high?

The trailer is about 30 inches taller than the Highlander.
 

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Can you be more specific on what you mean by "it struggled to hold 65 mph on flat ground"?

Do you mean vehicle stability was an issue, or it was revving consistently high?

The trailer is about 30 inches taller than the Highlander.
Meaning I could tow my low profile trailer at 70 mph in O/D or final gear, but the taller trailer above 65 mph it wanted to shift down. The U-Haul was only about 12" taller than my van and only about as wide as the van with rounded corners to be more aerodynamic. if you are talking about a camping trailer that is 30" above the Highlander and 8' or 8.5' wide you are going to be very disappointed. That's why I was asking the trailer type. Research how speed increases wind resistance on the order of 4X to understand how much harder it is to go 70 mph than 60 mph and you'll get the picture of how big a part frontal area plays in calculating what you can reasonably tow. Trust me, most RV salesman will not guide you properly and most car salesmen don't know enough to be of any help.
 
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Meaning I could tow my low profile trailer at 70 mph in O/D or final gear, but the taller trailer above 65 mph it wanted to shift down. The U-Haul was only about 12" taller than my van and only about as wide as the van with rounded corners to be more aerodynamic. if you are talking about a camping trailer that is 30" above the Highlander and 8' or 8.5' wide you are going to be very disappointed. That's why I was asking the trailer type. Research how speed increases wind resistance on the order of 4X to understand how much harder it is to go 70 mph than 60 mph and you'll get the picture of how big a part frontal area plays in calculating what you can reasonably tow. Trust me, most RV salesman will not guide you properly and most car salesmen don't know enough to be of any help.
It's an enclosed cargo trailer with the same width as the Highlander, slight V-front, and 30" taller. Not rounded corners.

Could you explain more how the car behaved towing the u-haul at 70 mph? It wanted to drive in the second to final gear continuously, or kept downshifting and upshifting throughout the ride?
Also what Highlander are you referring to specifically, the 2020 gas model?
 

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It's an enclosed cargo trailer with the same width as the Highlander, slight V-front, and 30" taller. Not rounded corners.

Could you explain more how the car behaved towing the u-haul at 70 mph? It wanted to drive in the second to final gear continuously, or kept downshifting and upshifting throughout the ride?
Also what Highlander are you referring to specifically, the 2020 gas model?
My van wanted to hunt above 65 mph. It would shift down then shift back up. I suppose if I had the ability to lock it in 4th gear (5 speed) maybe I could have lived with that, but remember that trailer only weighed 1,750 lbs, not 3,500. The additional weight and extra 18" of height will change the dynamic significantly. IMO the hybrid is out completely and I would seriously question whether or not the V6 is up to the task. Granted it has the advantage of 50 more HP and the shiftable 8 speed which will allow you to lock into the best gear, but I wouldn't be shocked if flat ground has you feeling like you are working the crap out of it to run 60 mph. If you do it the addition of the largest transmission fluid cooler is an absolute must.

Back when we spent a bunch of time camping I would occasionally see someone roll in with a Honda Pilot, Ridgeline or Odyssey pulling a 3,500 full height camper. Toying with the idea of upgrading the camper, but not wanting to change the tow vehicle for a hand full of weekends a year I would engage the people and ask questions. Without a single exception they all said it wasn't working and they were already shopping for a different tow vehicle. I was getting 16-18 mpg pulling my pop up at 70 mph (2,200 rpm), 23-25 mpg not towing, and they were reporting single digits with the lowest one I heard at 5.5 mpg and they were limited to 55 mph and sticking to 3rd gear so they were running 3,500 rpm to do it. Naturally the rest of the traffic is running 70 mph+ including semis and they felt like they were sitting ducks on the highway as everyone blew by.

I realize that a 2020 Highlander V6 is not a 2007 Honda Odyssey, but quite frankly the platforms aren't that different. In fact the van (the Sienna would also) has the advantage of a lower center of gravity, longer wheelbase, and wider track, all of which contribute to more stability.

PS Make sure you understand ALL of Toyota's towing specs. Being a recent Toyota buyer I am not as familiar yet with all the ins and outs, but with Honda the 3,500 lb rating is only good with a 150 lb driver and fuel. No additional passengers and no cargo. For every pound of passengers or cargo added to the vehicle the tow rating reduces by the same pound.
 

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@Pkrface I really appreciate your input on this. Thanks!!
No problem. This is a really common issue among these mid-sized V6 min van or crossover platforms. The 3,500 lb tow capacity is very deceiving. People pulling pop ups and small boats get by just fine and they often hit that 3,000 -3,500 lb range. It really takes a V8 Tundra or Sequoia to handle what you want to do comfortably.
 

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No problem. This is a really common issue among these mid-sized V6 min van or crossover platforms. The 3,500 lb tow capacity is very deceiving. People pulling pop ups and small boats get by just fine and they often hit that 3,000 -3,500 lb range. It really takes a V8 Tundra or Sequoia to handle what you want to do comfortably.
I really wish Toyota’s current gen V8s had Toyota Safety Sense 2.0. That suite of features is irreplaceable to me, it makes the driving experience so much better. Even Lexuses don’t have it, but 2019-2020 RAV4 and the 2020 Highlander do. You don’t know what you’re missing until you try it, but then once you do, there’s no going back.
 

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On Hybrids you cannot add any bigger transmission cooler. The transmission fluid is not cooled and neither is the rear high voltage motor in the rear diff. I think you mean transmission fluid whenyou mean overheating and not engine coolant
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the Hybrid, doesn't the inverter coolant also cool the CVT?
 

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Yes you are right. It goes inside the teansmission through 1 inlet and 1 outlet hose and you cannot actually modify or increase the cooling of it. Perhaps you could add in series another cooler external but have not seen a company make one yet. Not sure if i would take a chance in case a line pops and leaks out with an aftermarket kit

That is for the front cvt transmission and its motors built inside. In the rear you also have a Hybrid electric motor called MR inside the rear differential. That has no cooling. Its just basicly a sealed unit. That could overheat....


With a regular transmission you can add a bigger cooler behind the bumper (kind of like a radiator) to increase the transmission cooling of the fluid
 

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Odd that the reviewer on etrailer says "Kicker tailgate will not work in any position after installation" but there is at least one person here who installed the same hitch and the motion sensor is working for them.
 
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