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I think Toyota gave the North American market to Subaru in a silver platter. The styling is much more aggressive on the Subaru version...
more aggressive? they both look identical except for the lower front treatment, which i think the fr-s looks more unique, and taillights.
 

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more aggressive? they both look identical except for the lower front treatment, which i think the fr-s looks more unique, and taillights.
No their lights and lower valence is completely different:

 

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"Since then, Toyota has established a long history of producing exciting, driver-focused sports cars with a front-engine, rear-wheel drive format that have proved as popular with the public as they have been successful in competition."



:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

A badged up Corolla doesn't count.
Sorry that just got to me. Sure Toyota has created sports cars in the past but ummm that's not what they are known for.


Anyway, that was then, this is now. Good looking car. I wonder if it will be successful overseas but i NA not as much?? I'm not wishing that, just saying cause its not under the Toyota name in NA. We'll see. I'm guessing the Subie might be a little more successful. Regardless great cars, look very promising.
 

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I take the criticism of the sound back. I think it sounds fantastic in this video

 

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Toyota takes fun to the masses with 200-hp Scion FR-S

Toyota takes fun to the masses with 200-hp Scion FR-S

Akio Toyoda -- clad in a red-and-black racing suit -- introduced the car himself by flooring the a bright vermillion 86 down the straightaway at the Fuji Speedway.

OYAMA, Japan -- Toyota President Akio Toyoda unveiled his company's new 200-horsepower rear-wheel-drive sporty car before thousands of fans at a Formula One race track today in his bid to spice up a brand better known for bland but utilitarian offerings such as the Corolla and Camry.

The car, to be called the Toyota 86 in Japan and sold as the Scion FR-S in the United States, has been in the works for five years and received close scrutiny from Toyoda, who is banking on the car as an affordable halo model to burnish the company's performance credentials.

The 86 hits a top speed of 142 mph and can do 0-62 in six seconds. But raw speed is not the goal, says chief engineer Tetsuya Tada. The model's true mission is multifold:

• Achieve a low price point that can lure recent college graduates.

• Strive for fun-to-drive handling with a low center of gravity.

• Strip out fancy electronic control systems and turbochargers.

• Deliver a ride that can be easily customized and tuned by car buffs.

Toyota hasn't disclosed a price or gas-mileage estimates. But the company has said it is targeting a sticker around 2 million yen ($26,000). Tada said the goal is to price the car in a range that would be affordable to recent college graduates.

Going low-tech

"A lot of cars these days are controlled by computer chips, and that leads to a sense of the car driving you, instead of you driving the car," Tada said after the 86's introduction today at the Toyota-owned Fuji Speedway outside Tokyo near the base of snow-capped Mount Fuji.

"We decided to use as few computer controls as possible. We wanted to go back to basics."

The 86 was jointly developed with Subaru, which debuts its version -- the BRZ -- at this week's Tokyo Motor Show. Toyota did the styling, while Subaru provided the four-cylinder horizontally opposed boxer engine. Subaru will build both versions at its factory in Gumma, Japan.

Toyoda -- clad in a red-and-black racing suit -- introduced the car himself by flooring a bright vermillion 86 down the straightaway at the Fuji Speedway, where some 20,000 car buffs gathered to witness the debut and participate in the annual Toyota Gazoo Racing Festival.

The car's name in Japan -- 86 -- is a nod to the popular AE86 line of Corolla-based sports cars that Toyota rolled out in the 1980s. Toyota evoked its sporty roots at the tuner festival with a parade of vintage sports cars that included Toyota fan club members driving their original 86s, 2000 GTs, Sport 800s from the 1960s and a sampling of souped up Supras.

The 86 first appeared as a candy-apple red FT-86 concept at the 2009 Tokyo Motor Show. In Japan, the production version drops the "FT," nomenclature for concepts that means "Future Toyota." In Europe, the car will be sold as the Toyota GT 86.


The new Toyota 86/Scion FR-S gets a 2.0-liter four cylinder, DOHC boxer engine from Subaru equipped with Toyota’s D-4S fuel injection system.

Photo credit: Hans Greimel
No design by committee

Tada admits the car won't satisfy everyone, and he's fine with that. Toyota broke with a long tradition of designing by committee to deliver a car rendered by sports car enthusiasts assembled from within the company, he said. They focused on driving feel, not on numbers.

"When you show a sports car to the board of directors, the first thing they ask is how fast it is, what is the lap time, how does its speed compare with rivals. Marketing initially opposed the concept, saying it's not fast enough and didn't have enough new technology," Tada said.

"But what is unique about this car is that we didn't target numerical performance goals. We ignored the traditional Toyota development pattern," Tada said. "And the only reason we could do that is because there is a man on the board of directors named Akio Toyoda."

Toyoda, a racing fanatic, was especially hands on in flavoring the 86 -- checking in monthly on the car's development. He often test drove the 86 and gave orders on what to fix.

The new Toyota 86 gets a 2.0-liter four cylinder, DOHC boxer engine from Subaru equipped with Toyota's D-4S fuel injection system. It comes mated to either a six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission, while delivering 200 horsepower and topping out at 7,000 RPM.

The fuel injection system has twin injectors for both direct and port injection.

The car enters production next spring, and goes on sale next year in the United States.

Nimble, customizable

During a test drive for journalists on Fuji's short circuit, the 86 demonstrated lively pick-up, good balance and nimble handling -- all with the distinctive growling rumble of Subaru's boxer power plant. More-punishing journalists had a field day screeching and drifting through the turns.

Handling is improved by the boxer engine's low center of gravity.

The interior styling reflects what Tada calls "neo functionalism." It is a no-frills, utilitarian look focusing on old-school dials and switches -- with the meter cluster built around the tachometer.

Some paneling is simply shiny black plastic, while other trim gets a faux carbon fiber texture. The deep bucket seats have sporty red stitching with ample side bolstering.

The steering wheel is the smallest in the Toyota lineup with a diameter of 365 millimeters (14 inches). Toyota says this provides optimal steering performance and grip.

The 86 seats four with very cramped rear leg room. But the back seats fold down to provide space for luggage or -- as Toyota pitches it -- racing tires and tool kits.

Toyota envisions the car as being popular with the tuner crowd and aims to promote that use by making the car easily upgradeable with a plethora of accessories and add-ons.



http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111127/OEM04/111129934/1291
 

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Looks nothing like I remember from a few years ago... looks more domesticated. I hate the new look. I was seriously thinking of getting this, but now that it looks like the target audience is female, I do not want it. Might get it for the wife, though...
 

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That flat-4 engine sounds pretty darn good. Can never hate Subaru's engineering in engine sounds.
 

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Toyota FT-86 finally debuts as GT-86

The much-hyped Toyota FT-86 has finally been revealed, except that the marketeers have decided to rename the production version as the Toyota GT 86, after spending millions marketing the FT-86 name. Toyota’s new GT 86, with its name derived from the AE86-code Toyota Corolla GT-S of the 1980s, makes its world debut at the Tokyo Motor Show on November 30. The compact 2+2 model will go on sale in Europe in June 2012, but is also slated to come to the Middle East.
The 2013 Toyota GT 86 was a joint development with Subaru, who will have their own nearly-identical version, and thus will be powered by a Subaru-supplied 2.0-litre “boxer” 4-cylinder engine. The motor is good for 197 hp at 7,000 rpm and maximum torque of 205 Nm at 6,600 rpm. Apparently they were trying to emulate Honda Type-R cars and their driving “purity” and ended up with output similar to what Honda already managed a decade ago.
Toyota claims the GT 86 also has the “world’s most compact four-seat design” to create a car that “benefits from light weight, low inertia and a low centre of gravity to achieve the best possible power-to-weight ratio.” The car has a 53:47 front-to-rear weight distribution. The GT 86 measures 4,240 mm long, 1,285 mm high and 2,570 mm wide, dimensions which supposedly make it the most compact four-seater sports car available today, much smaller than a Hyundai Genesis but slightly larger than a Mazda MX-5 Miata
We expect the rear seats to be useless though, and the interior, while somewhat pretty in the pictures, probably consists of hard plastics to bring down the price.
The GT 86 is described as “light” but the official figure remains to be seen. The suspension features MacPherson struts at the front and double wishbones at the rear. The car rides on 17-inch wheels and is fitted with ventilated disc brakes fore and aft. There is a choice of 6-speed manual or automatic transmissions. A limited-slip differential is standard, while ABS and switchable vehicle stability control systems have been tuned specifically to minimise electronic intervention.

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You can definitely tell Toyota designed the interior. Everything about it is Toyota - the font used on the buttons, the ignition button, and of course, our little iconic digital clock :lol:
 

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The Image official launched todays says "GT86". So this chapter is finally settled.:lol:
 
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