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> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/business/worldbusiness/20cnd-toyota.html
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I forgot, NYT requires registration (which did not appear to increase SPAM).
Here's the first few paragraphs for those that prefer not to register:

Toyota, With 2006 Forecast, Challenges for Top Car Maker
By JAMES BROOKE
and MICHELINE MAYNARD
Published: December 20, 2005
NAGOYA, Japan -- The Toyota Motor Co. announced Tuesday that it planned to
make 9.06 million cars worldwide in 2006, a 10 percent increase that could
help it to snatch from General Motors the crown of world's largest carmaker,
a title GM has held for over 70 years.

Toyota's springboard would be an expected 9 percent growth in worldwide
sales in 2005, a surge that would help make Japan's largest carmaker the
world's most profitable. In 2005, Toyota expects to make 8.25 million cars
worldwide.

GM has not forecast its 2006 production. It had forecast that it will make
9.1 million cars in 2005, a 2 percent increase over last year. But it also
has announced that it will close three American car plants in 2006, part of
a plan to close a total 12 plants and shed 30 percent of its North American
capacity by 2008.

Toyota, in contrast is expanding in North America. Next year, the company is
to open a factory in Texas, capable of making 200,000 pickups a year. The
following year, a Subaru plant in Indiana is to start making 100,000 Toyotas
a year. In 2008, Toyota is to open a new factory in Ontario with a 100,000
vehicle capacity.

 

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"DH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "DH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]om...
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/business/worldbusiness/20cnd-toyota.html
>>
>
> I forgot, NYT requires registration (which did not appear to increase
> SPAM).
> Here's the first few paragraphs for those that prefer not to register:
>
> Toyota, With 2006 Forecast, Challenges for Top Car Maker
> By JAMES BROOKE
> and MICHELINE MAYNARD
> Published: December 20, 2005
> NAGOYA, Japan -- The Toyota Motor Co. announced Tuesday that it planned to
> make 9.06 million cars worldwide in 2006, a 10 percent increase that could
> help it to snatch from General Motors the crown of world's largest
> carmaker,
> a title GM has held for over 70 years.
>
> Toyota's springboard would be an expected 9 percent growth in worldwide
> sales in 2005, a surge that would help make Japan's largest carmaker the
> world's most profitable. In 2005, Toyota expects to make 8.25 million cars
> worldwide.
>
> GM has not forecast its 2006 production. It had forecast that it will make
> 9.1 million cars in 2005, a 2 percent increase over last year. But it also
> has announced that it will close three American car plants in 2006, part
> of
> a plan to close a total 12 plants and shed 30 percent of its North
> American
> capacity by 2008.
>
> Toyota, in contrast is expanding in North America. Next year, the company
> is
> to open a factory in Texas, capable of making 200,000 pickups a year. The
> following year, a Subaru plant in Indiana is to start making 100,000
> Toyotas
> a year. In 2008, Toyota is to open a new factory in Ontario with a 100,000
> vehicle capacity.
>
>

Toyotas rock! I just hope they dont start making cars in China. I heard
there is talk they may.

 

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"Dan J.S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "DH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "DH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]om...
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/business/worldbusiness/20cnd-toyota.html
>>>
>>
>> I forgot, NYT requires registration (which did not appear to increase
>> SPAM).
>> Here's the first few paragraphs for those that prefer not to register:
>>
>> Toyota, With 2006 Forecast, Challenges for Top Car Maker
>> By JAMES BROOKE
>> and MICHELINE MAYNARD
>> Published: December 20, 2005
>> NAGOYA, Japan -- The Toyota Motor Co. announced Tuesday that it planned
>> to
>> make 9.06 million cars worldwide in 2006, a 10 percent increase that
>> could
>> help it to snatch from General Motors the crown of world's largest
>> carmaker,
>> a title GM has held for over 70 years.
>>
>> Toyota's springboard would be an expected 9 percent growth in worldwide
>> sales in 2005, a surge that would help make Japan's largest carmaker the
>> world's most profitable. In 2005, Toyota expects to make 8.25 million
>> cars
>> worldwide.
>>
>> GM has not forecast its 2006 production. It had forecast that it will
>> make
>> 9.1 million cars in 2005, a 2 percent increase over last year. But it
>> also
>> has announced that it will close three American car plants in 2006, part
>> of
>> a plan to close a total 12 plants and shed 30 percent of its North
>> American
>> capacity by 2008.
>>
>> Toyota, in contrast is expanding in North America. Next year, the company
>> is
>> to open a factory in Texas, capable of making 200,000 pickups a year. The
>> following year, a Subaru plant in Indiana is to start making 100,000
>> Toyotas
>> a year. In 2008, Toyota is to open a new factory in Ontario with a
>> 100,000
>> vehicle capacity.
>>
>>
>
> Toyotas rock! I just hope they dont start making cars in China. I heard
> there is talk they may.
>

Toyota has been assembling cars in China as well as 25 other countries and
regions outside of Japan for a while. They currently make the Land Cruiser,
Camry, Coaster (small bus), Land Cruiser Prado, Corolla, Vios, and Crown in
China and recently announced plans to make the Prius there as well. I
believe all of those vehicles are for the Chinese market.

Check out Toyota Motor Corp's web page for info on overseas manufacturing:
http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/about_toyota/manufacturing/worldwide.html

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Ray O
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The operative word here is CARS, not vehicles. There is an average of
19,000,000 vehicles sold in the US annually and over half of all the
vehicles sold in the US today are light trucks including SUVs. GM like Ford
sells far more light trucks than cars. GM is number one in total vehicle
sales, Ford is number two, Chrysler number three and Toyota is fourth. GM
sells three times as many vehicles in the US as does Toyota, Ford twice as
many and Chrysler half again as many. Indeed Toyota sells more of a single
model car, the Camry, than any other manufacture in the US but GM sells far
more total cars than Toyota but with different model manes. The number one
selling vehicles in the US however is NOT a car, it is a truck, the Ford
F150. The number two selling vehicle is the Silverado and the number three
is the Dodge Ram truck. GM and Ford sells more Trucks alone than Toyota and
Lexus sells cars AND trucks combined. GM and Ford sell almost as many
vehicles in the US as ALL of the other manufactures combined.


mike hunt


"Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>> Toyota, With 2006 Forecast, Challenges for Top Car Maker
>>> By JAMES BROOKE
>>> and MICHELINE MAYNARD
>>> Published: December 20, 2005
>>> NAGOYA, Japan -- The Toyota Motor Co. announced Tuesday that it planned
>>> to
>>> make 9.06 million cars worldwide in 2006, a 10 percent increase that
>>> could
>>> help it to snatch from General Motors the crown of world's largest
>>> carmaker,
>>> a title GM has held for over 70 years.

 

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Toyota is building factories in China and Mexico to make cars and trucks to
sell in the US according to 'Automotive News'

mike hunt


"Dan J.S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> Toyota, in contrast is expanding in North America. Next year, the company
>> is
>> to open a factory in Texas, capable of making 200,000 pickups a year. The
>> following year, a Subaru plant in Indiana is to start making 100,000
>> Toyotas
>> a year. In 2008, Toyota is to open a new factory in Ontario with a
>> 100,000
>> vehicle capacity.
>>
>>
>
> Toyotas rock! I just hope they dont start making cars in China. I heard
> there is talk they may.
>

 

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Top-posting troll Mike Hunter wrote:

>GM sells three times as many vehicles in the US as does Toyota,

Idiot. "In the US" is not the issue. World-wide is the issue.

Your disingenuous arguments are more than obvious, top poster.

 

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"dizzy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Top-posting troll Mike Hunter wrote:
>
> >GM sells three times as many vehicles in the US as does Toyota,
>
> Idiot. "In the US" is not the issue. World-wide is the issue.
>
> Your disingenuous arguments are more than obvious, top poster.
>

True enough, Dizzy.

And MONEY is the ultimate issue and the relevant figures are Toyota has a
PROFIT of $2.6 billion in Q3 and GM posted a LOSS of $1.6 billion in Q3. It
doesn't matter how many cars you sold if you lost money doing it.

Still, maybe GM can turn it around. But when I look at a Rendezvous, I
think "not."

 

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"Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The operative word here is CARS, not vehicles. There is an average of
> 19,000,000 vehicles sold in the US annually and over half of all the
> vehicles sold in the US today are light trucks including SUVs. GM like
> Ford sells far more light trucks than cars. GM is number one in total
> vehicle sales, Ford is number two, Chrysler number three and Toyota is
> fourth. GM sells three times as many vehicles in the US as does Toyota,
> Ford twice as many and Chrysler half again as many. Indeed Toyota sells
> more of a single model car, the Camry, than any other manufacture in the
> US but GM sells far more total cars than Toyota but with different model
> manes. The number one selling vehicles in the US however is NOT a car, it
> is a truck, the Ford F150. The number two selling vehicle is the
> Silverado and the number three is the Dodge Ram truck. GM and Ford sells
> more Trucks alone than Toyota and Lexus sells cars AND trucks combined. GM
> and Ford sell almost as many vehicles in the US as ALL of the other
> manufactures combined.
>
>
> mike hunt
>

The press report said "cars" but according to TMC's web site, the 9.06
million figure is Toyota's worldwide production, including cars and trucks,
Daihatsu, & Hino.

It seems to me that an apples to apples comparison would be with GM, Ford,
Daimler Chrysler's worldwide sales, including cars, trucks, and other brands
like Saab, Jaguar, etc. under their umbrella.

Mike Hunt's post above is correct in regards to U.S. sales, however the
article that started the thread was referring to worldwide sales.

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"Mike Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Toyota is building factories in China and Mexico to make cars and trucks
> to sell in the US according to 'Automotive News'
>
> mike hunt
>

This is one way to bring reliability down. This may be the only thing that
will save the U.S. auto manufacturers.

 

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"dh" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"dizzy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> Top-posting troll Mike Hunter wrote:
>>
>> >GM sells three times as many vehicles in the US as does Toyota,
>>
>> Idiot. "In the US" is not the issue. World-wide is the issue.
>>
>> Your disingenuous arguments are more than obvious, top poster.
>>
>
>True enough, Dizzy.
>
>And MONEY is the ultimate issue and the relevant figures are Toyota has a
>PROFIT of $2.6 billion in Q3 and GM posted a LOSS of $1.6 billion in Q3. It
>doesn't matter how many cars you sold if you lost money doing it.
>
Who was it who said a few days ago on here (I think it was
'airline seats')..."Well, we may be losing a small amount on each
sale BUT we make it up in volume!..."
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