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Compression ratio is pushing it already.
Exactly! These are high compression engines by design. Additional turbo pressure would destroy the engine block and pistons.

NOSx could be the answer, but I don`t think it`s worth it.
Some ECU/TCM tunes would make this car a bit more fun, but remember, this is still a family sedan regardless of its look.

You know, he can also do a LS swap :)
 

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We are years away from 500 bar GDI

350 bar GDI is finally beginning to show.

Toyota was smart to allow the automakers to do the junk R&D. 200 bar DI is lame and just tolerable with D4S or equivalent combination injection... mpfi+gdi


 

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Today's sophisticated engines are extremely complex. And they require the entire engine to be designed and built around a turbocharging system. It's not just something that you can, "bolt on and go". At least not, and expect to have any type of appreciable engine life. There are plenty of You Tube Dyno disaster videos out there. That are posted by guys who thought they knew more than the factory engineers.
 

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Today's sophisticated engines are extremely complex. And they require the entire engine to be designed and built around a turbocharging system. It's not just something that you can, "bolt on and go". At least not, and expect to have any type of appreciable engine life. There are plenty of You Tube Dyno disaster videos out there. That are posted by guys who thought they knew more than the factory engineers.
How do the Toyota v6's used by lotus differ from ours?
Beefed up internals?
 

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How do the Toyota v6's used by lotus differ from ours?
Beefed up internals?
I would be willing to bet they are, "beefed up" in many ways. I can all but guarantee you they simply are not taking a stock V-6, normally aspirated engine, and bolting a turbo system on it.

Even with factory turbocharged engines, the 2 rules of thumb are, never buy a used one. And never buy one that is out of warranty. Because they are a financial nightmare to repair or replace. Remember, the factory tests these engines for literally millions of miles. They know precisely how long these engines will live. And set the boost so the engine will live past the warranty period. Yet still deliver noticeable performance. Or else they won't be able to sell it.

I have never understood the logic of these turbocharged 4-Cylinder engines. If you compare for example, the Camry with a V-6, to the new Honda 4-Cylinder Turbo, they get identical EPA fuel economy ratings. But BOTH the Toyota V-6 AND THE 4-Cylinder have more horsepower, without all the complexity and cost of the turbo system. And it costs less to purchase. And no one is going to tell me that BOTH the Toyota V-6, and the normally aspirated 4-cylinder won't live longer if properly driven and maintained.

2020 Honda Accord2020 Toyota CamryDifference
Standard engine1.5-liter turbo 4-cyl2.5-liter 4-cyl
Horsepower192 hp at 5,500 rpm203 to 206 hp at 6,600 rpm-14 to -11 hp
Torque192 lb-ft at 1,600 to 5,000 rpm184 to 186 lb-ft at 5,000 rpm+6 to +8 hp
Standard transmissionCVT8-spd automatic
Optional transmission6-spd manual (Sport)
DrivelineFWDFWD
0-60 time7.3 seconds7.6 seconds-0.3 seconds
MPG City26 to 30 mpg27 to 29 mpg-3 to +3 mpg
MPG Highway35 to 38 mpg38 to 41 mpg-6 to +0 mpg
MPG Combined30 to 33 mpg31 to 34 mpg-4 to +2 mpg
Optional engine2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl3.5-liter V-6
Horsepower252 hp at 6,500 rpm301 hp at 6,600 rpm-49 hp
Torque273 lb-ft at 1,500 to 4,000 rpm267 lb-ft at 4,700 rpm+6 lb-ft
Standard transmission6-spd manual (Sport)8-spd automatic
Optional transmission10-spd automatic
DrivelineFWDFWD
0-60 time6.2 seconds (manual) / 5.7 seconds (automatic)5.8 seconds-0.1 to +0.4 seconds
MPG City22 to 23 mpg22 mpg-0 to +1 mpg
MPG Highway32 to 34 mpg31 to 33 mpg-1 to +3 mpg
MPG Combined26 to 27 mpg25 to 26 mpg+0 to +2 mpg
 

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Turbos are here because they're cheaper for manufacturers to make since NA, and they meet emissions standards easier. They definitely require a little more maintenance. If you just drive and go, and maybe skip a maintenance, don't get one. It is mostly enthusiasts that like turbos, so if you're not one, just splurge for the V6.

I remember TRD used to offer superchargers for many of their vehicles, then didn't.
 
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