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My Solara has the 2.2l engine. Toyota has offered to cover the engine 8
years from date of original purchase.

Now, i didn't notice any problems, and the oil looked nice and clean
(changed, obviously). If I had known there was a possibility for sludge I
would have checked more thouroughly.

It only has 38K on it, but I have heard of engines sludging before that.
It *looks* like it was taken caree of.

Couple questions: What's a quick way of looking for sludge (I didn't even
pull the oil filler cap...)

Does Toyota warranty this for the second owner? (the car was purchased
from Toyota Motor Credit, so it's a Repo or a lease)

What oil will help keep from sludging? I have used a mix of 3/4 Castrol
GTX with 1/4 Marvel Mystery oil and have gotten high mileage using this
combination. Would synthetic help to keep the engine from skudging?

If sludging has started, is there a quick, easy way to loosen and remove
it before it gets bad?

Thanks!

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I wouldn't worry about it too much, for every sludged 5SFE we see about 20
1MZs. There really isn't a quick way to look in the valve train besides
lifting the valve cover. Should be a 32mm nut around each sparkplug tube
securing the valvecover to the head.
 
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:08:11 -0500, "qslim" <[email protected]>
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>I wouldn't worry about it too much, for every sludged 5SFE we see about 20
>1MZs. There really isn't a quick way to look in the valve train besides
>lifting the valve cover. Should be a 32mm nut around each sparkplug tube
>securing the valvecover to the head.



Have 'any' of the sludged 1MZ's had the recommended oil changes?

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"Scott in Florida" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:08:11 -0500, "qslim" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>>I wouldn't worry about it too much, for every sludged 5SFE we see about 20
>>1MZs. There really isn't a quick way to look in the valve train besides
>>lifting the valve cover. Should be a 32mm nut around each sparkplug tube
>>securing the valvecover to the head.

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> Have 'any' of the sludged 1MZ's had the recommended oil changes?
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> Scott in Florida


Good question.

I'm not overly fanatical about changing my oil every three. I generally do;
but 3.5 or 4 is also common for me. Once in a while 5K slips through, but
not very often at all.

As far as the Castrol/Marvel, I have been doing this for a LONG time, and
have not had ANY oil-related problems with any of my cars. They have all
been high-mileage using this combination. The bodies wear out before the
engine shows wear!
 
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"Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:

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SNIP
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>If you have the 4 cylinder engine, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over
>sludge and just take care of your new ride!


Good advice I'd say...and I'd also say that a poster like this is
one that we hardly ever see...IMO any advice from Ray we can
pretty well take to the bank.

You're a real asset to these groups Ray...
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> "Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> SNIP
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>>If you have the 4 cylinder engine, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over
>>sludge and just take care of your new ride!

>
> Good advice I'd say...and I'd also say that a poster like this is
> one that we hardly ever see...IMO any advice from Ray we can
> pretty well take to the bank.
>
> You're a real asset to these groups Ray...
> --
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> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)


Thanks for the vote of confidence! I'm not always right, like I missed the
leaking T-chain tensioners on Corollas, but I do try to give good advice.
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"Gord Beaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> SNIP
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>>If you have the 4 cylinder engine, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over
>>sludge and just take care of your new ride!

>
> Good advice I'd say...and I'd also say that a poster like this is
> one that we hardly ever see...IMO any advice from Ray we can
> pretty well take to the bank.
>
> You're a real asset to these groups Ray...


Yeah! Me also!

The thing was started when I went looking for info on my 'new' car; of
course, I didn't look at the hood sticker (I did look to make sure it wasn't
a crasher...how bad can a Toy with 38K be?!?!)

I ran across a site that said Toyota has extended the warranty on the 3.0L
V-6 and the 5FSE 2.2L 4 to cover sludge in the engine for 8 years from date
of purchase. Now, i had never heard of a sludge problem with a four
cylinder!

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Well, one point that bring up (and often get jumped on for by these nut
dicks out there) is that I nor the dealer I work for (a major dealership
in the D.C. area) have seen a documented case of any vehicle with a
service history of consistent 7500 mile service intervals or less that has
oil gel accumulation.
 
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qslim wrote:
> I wouldn't worry about it too much, for every sludged 5SFE we see about 20
> 1MZs. There really isn't a quick way to look in the valve train besides
> lifting the valve cover. Should be a 32mm nut around each sparkplug tube
> securing the valvecover to the head.


30mm, qslim.

BTW, long time, no contribute! (on my part)

Toyota MDT in MO
 
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The Maintenance Guide that came with my 2006 J-Vin
silver Camry says to change the oil and filter every
5,000 miles or 6 months.

Is 5,000 miles really a good idea?
 
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> The Maintenance Guide that came with my 2006 J-Vin
> silver Camry says to change the oil and filter every
> 5,000 miles or 6 months.
>
> Is 5,000 miles really a good idea?


The maintenance guide for a particular model is not VIN-specific. In other
words, it will be the same whether the vehicle's final assembly plant is in
Japan or in North America.

Note that there are different oil change intervals for "normal" and "severe"
operating conditions. It is a good idea to follow the correct schedule for
the type of driving conditions you encounter.
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:28:40 -0800, Comboverfish wrote:

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> qslim wrote:
>> I wouldn't worry about it too much, for every sludged 5SFE we see about 20
>> 1MZs. There really isn't a quick way to look in the valve train besides
>> lifting the valve cover. Should be a 32mm nut around each sparkplug tube
>> securing the valvecover to the head.

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> 30mm, qslim.
>
> BTW, long time, no contribute! (on my part)
>
> Toyota MDT in MO


Yeah, we know!

Nice to see you again!

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"Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>"Gord Beaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>

>> SNIP
>>>
>>>If you have the 4 cylinder engine, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over
>>>sludge and just take care of your new ride!

>>
>> Good advice I'd say...and I'd also say that a poster like this is
>> one that we hardly ever see...IMO any advice from Ray we can
>> pretty well take to the bank.
>>
>> You're a real asset to these groups Ray...
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)

>
>Thanks for the vote of confidence! I'm not always right, like I missed the
>leaking T-chain tensioners on Corollas, but I do try to give good advice.


And what's even better you temper your answers with 'I think' and
'IMO' when you're not certain...this attribute alone gives you
great credibility, something we all should strive for, (IMO) :)
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Gord Beaman wrote:
> "Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:
> SNIP
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>> If you have the 4 cylinder engine, I wouldn't lose too much sleep
>> over sludge and just take care of your new ride!

>
> Good advice I'd say...and I'd also say that a poster like this is
> one that we hardly ever see...IMO any advice from Ray we can
> pretty well take to the bank.
>
> You're a real asset to these groups Ray...


I'd like to agree with Gord, thanks Ray, from an Avalon Grande owner in
Australia.
Regards,
Jacko:)
 
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"Gord Beaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>"Gord Beaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]
>>> "Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> SNIP
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>>>>If you have the 4 cylinder engine, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over
>>>>sludge and just take care of your new ride!
>>>
>>> Good advice I'd say...and I'd also say that a poster like this is
>>> one that we hardly ever see...IMO any advice from Ray we can
>>> pretty well take to the bank.
>>>
>>> You're a real asset to these groups Ray...
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Gord.
>>> (use gordon in email)

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>>Thanks for the vote of confidence! I'm not always right, like I missed
>>the
>>leaking T-chain tensioners on Corollas, but I do try to give good advice.

>
> And what's even better you temper your answers with 'I think' anYou d
> 'IMO' when you're not certain...this attribute alone gives you
> great credibility, something we all should strive for, (IMO) :)
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)


You guys are gonna make my head swell! I'll try not to let you down!
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"Jacko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Gord Beaman wrote:
>> "Ray O" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> SNIP
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>>> If you have the 4 cylinder engine, I wouldn't lose too much sleep
>>> over sludge and just take care of your new ride!

>>
>> Good advice I'd say...and I'd also say that a poster like this is
>> one that we hardly ever see...IMO any advice from Ray we can
>> pretty well take to the bank.
>>
>> You're a real asset to these groups Ray...

>
> I'd like to agree with Gord, thanks Ray, from an Avalon Grande owner in
> Australia.
> Regards,
> Jacko:)
>


You're very welcome! Just be understanding if I make a mistake here and
there.
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The dealer I purchased my 2005 Corolla recommends the 5000 mile oil
change. Who would have thunk. I go to 4000 miles because of low
mileage. About 9000 miles per year.

Ron
 
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Ray, I also appreciate your helpful advice a lot. But
don't worry, I won't let your head swell too
much :) [chuckle]. See below.

In response to my Maintenance Guide question about
the Camry's Guide recommending 5,000 mile oil change
intervals, you wrote:

> Note that there are different oil change intervals
> for "normal" and "severe" operating conditions.


Actually, though, the Guide recommends oil changes
at 5,000 miles or 6 months for all driving conditions,
including severe. It's just that for the
severe (what the guide calls "special operating conditions"),
the mechanic is suppose to check 7 or 8 extra things at the
time of the oil change like
"Inspect ball joints and dust covers,"
"Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis," etc.

The special/severe conditions the Guide mentions
are "Driving in desert or on dirt roads" and "Driving
while towing."

I wouldn't bring this little trivia up except
you mentioned to me once that the Hayward dealership is not
in San Francisco, which I knew. But you are correct, I shoulda
wrote the Hayward dealership, *near* San Fran. [chuckle]

But seriously, I do very much appreciate your helpful
advice :)

You are an asset to the Usenet, and I wouldn't mind
PayPal'ing you a few dollars for your help. If you'd ask, I'm
sure many people would pay.

This is just a small, minor case of the student correcting
the teacher. :)

Wow, I've had my Camry for 3 weeks now, but I've only put
350 miles on it. And it has that many miles only because I'm
deliberately driving to out-of-the-way places to put a quick
thousand miles on the car to help "break it in," whatever that means.

For example, if I need to go to Super Walmart, I don't go
to my Columbia, Missouri's Super Walmart. Instead I'm driving
30 miles south to Jefferson City's Super Walmart, or 20 miles
east to Fulton's Walmart. But I drive so little, it's taking
a whole lotta time to rack up those first thousand miles. I hope
this is okay for my car, which I love so much. Kiss Kiss Camry.
 
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"Built_Well" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ray, I also appreciate your helpful advice a lot. But
> don't worry, I won't let your head swell too
> much :) [chuckle]. See below.
>
> In response to my Maintenance Guide question about
> the Camry's Guide recommending 5,000 mile oil change
> intervals, you wrote:
>
>> Note that there are different oil change intervals
>> for "normal" and "severe" operating conditions.

>
> Actually, though, the Guide recommends oil changes
> at 5,000 miles or 6 months for all driving conditions,
> including severe. It's just that for the
> severe (what the guide calls "special operating conditions"),
> the mechanic is suppose to check 7 or 8 extra things at the
> time of the oil change like
> "Inspect ball joints and dust covers,"
> "Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis," etc.
>
> The special/severe conditions the Guide mentions
> are "Driving in desert or on dirt roads" and "Driving
> while towing."


When in doubt, it never hurts to follow the severe or special driving
conditions maintenance/inspection schedule.

>
> I wouldn't bring this little trivia up except
> you mentioned to me once that the Hayward dealership is not
> in San Francisco, which I knew. But you are correct, I shoulda
> wrote the Hayward dealership, *near* San Fran. [chuckle]


I worked in Benicia, South San Francisco, and San Ramon from 1978 to 1983
and so I was familiar with a lot of the dealerships.

>
> But seriously, I do very much appreciate your helpful
> advice :)


Cars fascinate me and I used to watch my dad work on cars on weekends. I
started taking stuff apart as a kid, got most of it back together. I
remember an unsuccessful attempt to fix the recoil starter on our Lawn Boy
when I was in 6th or 7th grade, my dad ended up putting it back together.

>
> You are an asset to the Usenet, and I wouldn't mind
> PayPal'ing you a few dollars for your help. If you'd ask, I'm
> sure many people would pay.
>


Other than when it was part of my job, I've never been paid for working on
cars. I am a volunteer with our local Boy Scout Council, which is in the
process of raising $4.3 million for dining halls at its camps and for a new
volunteer service center. If someone is so inclined, I'd appreciate a
donation to our councicl so I don't have to spend so much time
fundraising.;-)

> This is just a small, minor case of the student correcting
> the teacher. :)


I had a teacher who used to say "if you want to become old and wise, learn
somethine new every day; otherwise, you'll just get old." That advice
stuck, so I'm always willing to learn something new!

>
> Wow, I've had my Camry for 3 weeks now, but I've only put
> 350 miles on it. And it has that many miles only because I'm
> deliberately driving to out-of-the-way places to put a quick
> thousand miles on the car to help "break it in," whatever that means.
>
> For example, if I need to go to Super Walmart, I don't go
> to my Columbia, Missouri's Super Walmart. Instead I'm driving
> 30 miles south to Jefferson City's Super Walmart, or 20 miles
> east to Fulton's Walmart. But I drive so little, it's taking
> a whole lotta time to rack up those first thousand miles. I hope
> this is okay for my car, which I love so much. Kiss Kiss Camry.


Many people probably disagree with this advice, but I'll give it anyway. If
you want a "loose" engine, then drive it hard when breaking it in. If you
want a "tight" engine, then baby it when breaking it in. I've broken in 60
or 70 new cars, always drove them hard right out of the port of entry. Many
friends purchased my company cars and ran them for 200k miles without
problems.

Enjoy your new ride!
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Ray O wrote:
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> If someone is so inclined, I'd appreciate a
> donation to our [Scouting] council so I don't have
> to spend so much time fundraising.;-)



Mike, you got all the money. Why don't you send
a few nickels Ray's way ;-)
 
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