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I'm super excited. If you followed my other post from a few weeks ago titled "I'm torn", you'll understand my excitement a little better. But regardless, I was able to get a 17 se with moon roof package and entune premium with navigation.

My monthly payment did jump a little, but not so much where I was uncomfortable with it, and in my opinion having the upgraded audio makes it worth it. The moon roof isn't a complete necessity, but it was on the car so whatever.

Few things I like about 15-17's over my 14.5.
For starters they got rid of that annoying analog clock and I'll have a flat part on the dash where I can't put my phone mount. The center screen in the instrument cluster is a really nice improvement over my current camry. Also the 12v plug they moved to inside the arm rest instead of in that center change holder thing.

I'm pretty pumped. I pick it up Monday or Tuesday. The only thing I'm working on the dealer with is, my tires on my 14.5 are next to brand new and they're a 65k tire. I want to swap them onto the new camry since they're the same sizes. The sales lady said I could do this but it'd be expensive, to which I called her bs and told her it was part of my buying the car. We left it at her talking to the service dept and they'd (the service dept.) would have to make the final decision. I'm honestly surprised how difficult it was to try and convince them to do this. We're talking about swapping tires, not putting in a new transmission.

Anyway I'm excited.
 

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The only thing I'm working on the dealer with is, my tires on my 14.5 are next to brand new and they're a 65k tire. I want to swap them onto the new camry since they're the same sizes. The sales lady said I could do this but it'd be expensive, to which I called her bs and told her it was part of my buying the car. We left it at her talking to the service dept and they'd (the service dept.) would have to make the final decision. I'm honestly surprised how difficult it was to try and convince them to do this. We're talking about swapping tires, not putting in a new transmission.

Anyway I'm excited.
The SE comes with the tires that are designed to maximize comfort/handling for that suspension. If you really like your current tires, then go to Costco, Sears or wherever
and have the cheapest cheapest tires put on the 14.5, and you can save your almost new tires for when you need to the tires on the '17. Good luck with your new SE; they are nice.
 

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I really don't wanna buy a new set of tires when I just bought a brand new set 3 months ago. I actually called a few places to see what they'd charge me to do this, and at most it was $10 per tire. I don't know why the dealer is being difficult about it. They could litterally do it while I'm signing the paperwork
 

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I'm super excited. If you followed my other post from a few weeks ago titled "I'm torn", you'll understand my excitement a little better. But regardless, I was able to get a 17 se with moon roof package and entune premium with navigation.

My monthly payment did jump a little, but not so much where I was uncomfortable with it, and in my opinion having the upgraded audio makes it worth it. The moon roof isn't a complete necessity, but it was on the car so whatever.

Few things I like about 15-17's over my 14.5.
For starters they got rid of that annoying analog clock and I'll have a flat part on the dash where I can't put my phone mount. The center screen in the instrument cluster is a really nice improvement over my current camry. Also the 12v plug they moved to inside the arm rest instead of in that center change holder thing.

I'm pretty pumped. I pick it up Monday or Tuesday. The only thing I'm working on the dealer with is, my tires on my 14.5 are next to brand new and they're a 65k tire. I want to swap them onto the new camry since they're the same sizes. The sales lady said I could do this but it'd be expensive, to which I called her bs and told her it was part of my buying the car. We left it at her talking to the service dept and they'd (the service dept.) would have to make the final decision. I'm honestly surprised how difficult it was to try and convince them to do this. We're talking about swapping tires, not putting in a new transmission.

Anyway I'm excited.
Regardless, you are still stuck with a four banger. Why switch to a 17 model when the power train is nearly identical? I thought you wanted the awesome V6 power.
 

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I'm super excited. If you followed my other post from a few weeks ago titled "I'm torn", you'll understand my excitement a little better. But regardless, I was able to get a 17 se with moon roof package and entune premium with navigation.

My monthly payment did jump a little, but not so much where I was uncomfortable with it, and in my opinion having the upgraded audio makes it worth it. The moon roof isn't a complete necessity, but it was on the car so whatever.

Few things I like about 15-17's over my 14.5.
For starters they got rid of that annoying analog clock and I'll have a flat part on the dash where I can't put my phone mount. The center screen in the instrument cluster is a really nice improvement over my current camry. Also the 12v plug they moved to inside the arm rest instead of in that center change holder thing.

I'm pretty pumped. I pick it up Monday or Tuesday. The only thing I'm working on the dealer with is, my tires on my 14.5 are next to brand new and they're a 65k tire. I want to swap them onto the new camry since they're the same sizes. The sales lady said I could do this but it'd be expensive, to which I called her bs and told her it was part of my buying the car. We left it at her talking to the service dept and they'd (the service dept.) would have to make the final decision. I'm honestly surprised how difficult it was to try and convince them to do this. We're talking about swapping tires, not putting in a new transmission.

Anyway I'm excited.
Regardless, you are still stuck with a four banger. Why switch to a 17 model when the power train is nearly identical? I thought you wanted the awesome V6 power.
The V6 was an added bonus for me but wasn't a necessity. The 4 cylinder is alot more practical, especially since I drive 25 miles each way for work. Plus I couldn't live with going backwards in years. It just didn't sit right with me. Everything with the 17 camry was right. The financing, the options, it was everything I wanted so I made out great
 

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Dude, leave the tires on the old car on there. They're next to new, but the ones on the 2017 ARE new. You're coming out on top, let it go. Your buy and trading a Camry, not a Ferrari.

The ridiculous request aside, congrats on your new car. I followed your other thread as well, so a bit confused why you didn't get the V6 on it, but glad you are happy.
 

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Dude, leave the tires on the old car on there. They're next to new, but the ones on the 2017 ARE new. You're coming out on top, let it go. Your buy and trading a Camry, not a Ferrari.

The ridiculous request aside, congrats on your new car. I followed your other thread as well, so a bit confused why you didn't get the V6 on it, but glad you are happy.
I don't think it's all that ridiculous of a request. The turanza's are God awful tires and it's well documented on these boards. The tires I have on my 14 are a 65k tire and wernt cheap. I was able to squeak 26k miles out of the turanza's on my 14, which is just awful. Either way, yes you're right, they're new tires so I'll make out regardless but I'd much prefer the good years that are on my 14.

As far as the V6, yes it woulda been sweet, but not an absolute must. Plus, it would've been alot more money going with a new car and it wasn't worth the extra money in the end
 

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I don't think it's all that ridiculous of a request. The turanza's are God awful tires and it's well documented on these boards. The tires I have on my 14 are a 65k tire and wernt cheap. I was able to squeak 26k miles out of the turanza's on my 14, which is just awful. Either way, yes you're right, they're new tires so I'll make out regardless but I'd much prefer the good years that are on my 14.

As far as the V6, yes it woulda been sweet, but not an absolute must. Plus, it would've been alot more money going with a new car and it wasn't worth the extra money in the end
I could understand your sentiment about the tires. However, buying a 2017 instead of waiting for 2018 will get you in a same pickle. I could understand going from I4 to V6 but 2014.5 I4 to 2017 I4 makes no sense given the steep loss. Your monthly payment maybe the same, but you are paying two or three additional years. Don't you just get sick and tire of making monthly payments. I wait and buy when I have cash. I also think about will I be eating dog food when I retire or do something about it. $350 payment (instead of TMF) each month toward your 401K will go very far. I heard dog food tastes like chicken.
 

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I don't think it's all that ridiculous of a request. The turanza's are God awful tires and it's well documented on these boards. The tires I have on my 14 are a 65k tire and wernt cheap. I was able to squeak 26k miles out of the turanza's on my 14, which is just awful. Either way, yes you're right, they're new tires so I'll make out regardless but I'd much prefer the good years that are on my 14.

As far as the V6, yes it woulda been sweet, but not an absolute must. Plus, it would've been alot more money going with a new car and it wasn't worth the extra money in the end
I could understand your sentiment about the tires. However, buying a 2017 instead of waiting for 2018 will get you in a same pickle. I could understand going from I4 to V6 but 2014.5 I4 to 2017 I4 makes no sense given the steep loss. Your monthly payment maybe the same, but you are paying two or three additional years. Don't you just get sick and tire of making monthly payments. I wait and buy when I have cash. I also think about will I be eating dog food when I retire or do something about it. $350 payment (instead of TMF) each month toward your 401K will go very far. I heard dog food tastes like chicken.
Everyone's situations are different. All depends. Not to get off topic, but my wife and I really don't spend much money on anything besides bills. So everyone's situation is different
 

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I don't think it's all that ridiculous of a request. The turanza's are God awful tires and it's well documented on these boards. The tires I have on my 14 are a 65k tire and wernt cheap. I was able to squeak 26k miles out of the turanza's on my 14, which is just awful. Either way, yes you're right, they're new tires so I'll make out regardless but I'd much prefer the good years that are on my 14.

As far as the V6, yes it woulda been sweet, but not an absolute must. Plus, it would've been alot more money going with a new car and it wasn't worth the extra money in the end
IMO, a more realistic ask would have been for them to just put new tires on the new car and they take the Bstones. Not a big deal either way, worst they'll say is no to your request.

Yea, V6 when new adds a nice chunk of change, and only available on high trims, which adds another nice chunk. The less money spent on a Camry right now, due to horrible residual, the better.
 

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Id say the difference is apples to apples.. not apples to oranges.


Just a clock and center console worth losing the equity in the '14? Not to mention the tires.


IDK, everyones different I guess. I wouldve paid off the 14 and kept it. Isnt it the most reliable car in 'merica?



But its your money, your car, do what u like
 
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Id say the difference is apples to apples.. not apples to oranges.


Just a clock and center console worth losing the equity in the '14? Not to mention the tires.


IDK, everyones different I guess. I wouldve paid off the 14 and kept it. Isnt it the most reliable car in 'merica?



But its your money, your car, do what u like
I'd say to each their own really. The 17 has some things that were big improvements for me.

You make light of the clock not being there, but it was one of the first things I noticed because it's exactly where I want to mount my phone. It's where I mount my phone in my 14, but with the clock there it's very annoying and hard to reach due to that stupid analog clock.

Also, my 14 has the basic entune. The 17 has entune premium and that to me is a huge upgrade, as well as the siri eyes free. Plus the Moon roof is an added bonus. So it's all good. I'm happy
 

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I'd say to each their own really. The 17 has some things that were big improvements for me.

You make light of the clock not being there, but it was one of the first things I noticed because it's exactly where I want to mount my phone. It's where I mount my phone in my 14, but with the clock there it's very annoying and hard to reach due to that stupid analog clock.

Also, my 14 has the basic entune. The 17 has entune premium and that to me is a huge upgrade, as well as the siri eyes free. Plus the Moon roof is an added bonus. So it's all good. I'm happy
You did good ... the sixth gen looks better and the 7.5 functions better than anything in 7th gen configuration.

Xv 50 was a lame duck IMHO!
 

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See, thats where this is relative..


I get so many people who like the XV50 versions and hate the new styling of the camry. I get compliments all the time on mine.

The VX50 had chiseled body lines, nice front end. That all went to crap with the curved lines, big mouth bass front and whatever that black plastic thing is behind the passenger glass.


But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.



EDIT: The only thing I dont like on ALL camrys are how the rear wheels are sunk inches into the fender wells and the raised height.


If you look at the Avalon and Lexus's, they sit like normal cars. Not way up in the air like the Camry or Corolla
 
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See, thats where this is relative..


I get so many people who like the XV50 versions and hate the new styling of the camry. I get compliments all the time on mine.

The VX50 had chiseled body lines, nice front end. That all went to crap with the curved lines, big mouth bass front and whatever that black plastic thing is behind the passenger glass.


But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
It all boils down to what you like. For me the 12-14 camry SE is a very sharp looking car. However the other trims in that model year are absolute barf Imo.

For me it's more about what's inside the car than the actual look of the car. The 15-17 SE definitely doesnt have that same sporty youthfulness as my 14 does, but it doesnt bother me. The xse does have the sporty look , but that was out of my price range.

In the end I'm happy. I pick up the car tomorrow night. Also found out today it has the all weather floor liners and cargo tray. Kind of an added bonus for me.
 

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See, thats where this is relative..


I get so many people who like the XV50 versions and hate the new styling of the camry. I get compliments all the time on mine.

The VX50 had chiseled body lines, nice front end. That all went to crap with the curved lines, big mouth bass front and whatever that black plastic thing is behind the passenger glass.


But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
+1 beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know 4 ppl who were waiting for the 2015 restyle and went with either a used 2013-14 or other make and model cuz of 2015 exterior/interior. I see absolutely no reason to trade in the 14's and get into a new contract with higher payments and longer term for a practically an identical car.


EDIT: The only thing I dont like on ALL camrys are how the rear wheels are sunk inches into the fender wells and the raised height.


If you look at the Avalon and Lexus's, they sit like normal cars. Not way up in the air like the Camry or Corolla
imo the offset of the tires/wheels on the Camry, Avalon and Rolla is pretty much the same, but Camry's wheel wells a disproportionally big. Get some bigger 225/55/17 tires and 3-5mm spacers, that will fix the look.
 

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See, thats where this is relative..


I get so many people who like the XV50 versions and hate the new styling of the camry. I get compliments all the time on mine.

The VX50 had chiseled body lines, nice front end. That all went to crap with the curved lines, big mouth bass front and whatever that black plastic thing is behind the passenger glass.


But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
+1 beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know 4 ppl who were waiting for the 2015 restyle and went with either a used 2013-14 or other make and model cuz of 2015 exterior/interior. I see absolutely no reason to trade in the 14's and get into a new contract with higher payments and longer term for a practically an identical car.


Depends on what you consider identical. I mean for 20$ more a month would you upgrade to entune premium, a moonroof and some nicer features? Some would say no, I say yes.

I'm also at the dealer as we speak having the tires changed looking at both cars side by side, and I have zero issues with the look of the 15-17 camry se. It's a sharp car. To each there own
 
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