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I installed new rims and winter tires today with TPMS sensors. I expected the TPMS warning light to come on but it did not. I called the dealership and asked if it is possible that the TPMS computer recognized the new sensors but the guy I talked to cannot give me an answer. He actually told me that since the warning light did not come on, then it's a good thing. My concern is that the TPMS in my Venza might not be working at all. Any thoughts?

Btw, I installed Goodyear Ultra Grip, 245/65R17.

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I installed new rims and winter tires today with TPMS sensors. I expected the TPMS warning light to come on but it did not. I called the dealership and asked if it is possible that the TPMS computer recognized the new sensors but the guy I talked to cannot give me an answer. He actually told me that since the warning light did not come on, then it's a good thing. My concern is that the TPMS in my Venza might not be working at all. Any thoughts?

Btw, I installed Goodyear Ultra Grip, 245/65R17.

I will try to post some pics in the albums.
I'm confused....(not surprising!) I've been reading a lot about the Venza lately and recently joined this forum. I'm looking at a 2010. Are the tires that come on the Venza not adequate for winter driving? I know the tires are larger than "normal." I really don't want to be switching tires. I live in Michigan and can have brutal winters.
 

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I installed new rims and winter tires today with TPMS sensors. I expected the TPMS warning light to come on but it did not. I called the dealership and asked if it is possible that the TPMS computer recognized the new sensors but the guy I talked to cannot give me an answer. He actually told me that since the warning light did not come on, then it's a good thing. My concern is that the TPMS in my Venza might not be working at all. Any thoughts?

Btw, I installed Goodyear Ultra Grip, 245/65R17.

I will try to post some pics in the albums.
Did you mean WITHOUT TPMS? If that's the case, the light will come on. It just takes a while. I drove for a few days before the light came on after I installed my winter tires without TPMS.
 

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I'm confused....(not surprising!) I've been reading a lot about the Venza lately and recently joined this forum. I'm looking at a 2010. Are the tires that come on the Venza not adequate for winter driving? I know the tires are larger than "normal." I really don't want to be switching tires. I live in Michigan and can have brutal winters.
You can check out this tread...if you have the patience: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303172

The short answer is winter tires are always better than all seasons in cold temps (because of the softer compound). You may be able to get by with the OEM tires, but winter rubber will give much better traction on ice, snow and even simply cold pavement. Especially important when you need to stop in a hurry.
 

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Are the tires that come on the Venza not adequate for winter driving? I know the tires are larger than "normal." I really don't want to be switching tires. I live in Michigan and can have brutal winters.
Many of the Venza owners discussing snow tires live in places, like Quebec, where it may be required by local law to drive with snow tires after a certain date. Others prefer the added safety of snow tires in a climate with harsh winter conditions.

If you read other threads you will find differing reports on the competence in snow of the Venza with the standard tires. Some Venza owners have had reported good experiences in snow and others encountered problems on OE tires. I made a point of buying a V6 AWD Venza with the Michelin Latitude tires because these reportedly are better in snow than the Goodyear RSA tires. I do not plan to switch to winter tires, but have no prior experience with my Venza in snow.
 

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Did you mean WITHOUT TPMS? If that's the case, the light will come on. It just takes a while. I drove for a few days before the light came on after I installed my winter tires without TPMS.
I don't understand. Why would it take a few days for the light to come on? Is it suppose to work that way? Does that mean you can drive on low air for a few days before the light comes on? On my Camry the sensor turned on right away when I was leaking air.
 

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I don't understand. Why would it take a few days for the light to come on? Is it suppose to work that way? Does that mean you can drive on low air for a few days before the light comes on? On my Camry the sensor turned on right away when I was leaking air.
You're comparing no TPMS vs. TPMS and low air pressure. Those are two different situations.

Maybe it takes a few miles in case you need to drive on the spare for a while. It gives you a chance to get the tire fixed before turning on the warning light. Just a guess.
 

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I posted in the winter wheels/tire thread. But mine came on after about 20-30km drive. And it starts flashing for about 30sec then stays lit. It is very random, and somedays it's on right away sometimes it's not on at all. I hope it is normal, I had the same concern you did thinking maybe something is wrong with my venza. But looks like the computer doesnt' check for TPMS all the time.
 

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You're comparing no TPMS vs. TPMS and low air pressure. Those are two different situations.

Maybe it takes a few miles in case you need to drive on the spare for a while. It gives you a chance to get the tire fixed before turning on the warning light. Just a guess.
Nice!! Toyota technology is awesome. I'm always underestimating the genius of Toyota. :thumbsup:
 

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Did you mean WITHOUT TPMS? If that's the case, the light will come on. It just takes a while. I drove for a few days before the light came on after I installed my winter tires without TPMS.
I had TPMS installed with the new tires/rims. I guess I will just wait until I have driven a few kilometers/days to find out. I just thought that the warning light will come on right away. If it does come on after a few kilometers/days, then I will have to go to Toyota to have it re-programmed. I was qouted Cdn $100.00.
 

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When the TPMS light does turn on is it very bright? Can I cover it with a piece of black tape so it won't drive me crazy!!! I will probaly go with the 18" steels without the sensors, I'm just concerned about the light. My Murano used to give the info ion the Nav screen.
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I had TPMS installed with the new tires/rims. I guess I will just wait until I have driven a few kilometers/days to find out. I just thought that the warning light will come on right away. If it does come on after a few kilometers/days, then I will have to go to Toyota to have it re-programmed. I was qouted Cdn $100.00.
So if your running the TPMS and are concerned about it working, why not just let some air out of a rear tire down to say 25lbs and drive a mile or 2 and see if its detected? It should give you the warning. Simply inflate to proper pressure after checking.
 

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When the TPMS light does turn on is it very bright? Can I cover it with a piece of black tape so it won't drive me crazy!!! I will probaly go with the 18" steels without the sensors, I'm just concerned about the light. My Murano used to give the info ion the Nav screen.
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You could, but it probably wouldn't look that good . It's in the middle of the left half of the...er...thing on either side of the "info center". I find it very easy to ignore. Besides, I usually have TC and VSC off, so they also light up.
 

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Update re: TPMS

After driving for about 25 kms, the TPMS warning light came on and stayed lit. I stopped for coffee and when I turned the engine on, the warning light did not come on anymore. I drove for about another 50 kms and it did not come on again ever. Is it possible that the TPMS has recognized the new sensors?

This afternoon, I called another dealership and the guy told me that since the sensor has already been installed in the new rims, they have to take it out again to see the "special" number in it so they can program/register it with the TPMS in my Venza. The qoute was $110 for unmounting and remounting the tires plus $52 for the programming.

I will wait till the warning light comes on again and have it programmed.
Had I only known......:confused:
 

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I'm confused....(not surprising!) I've been reading a lot about the Venza lately and recently joined this forum. I'm looking at a 2010. Are the tires that come on the Venza not adequate for winter driving? I know the tires are larger than "normal." I really don't want to be switching tires. I live in Michigan and can have brutal winters.
It's all a question of: do you HAVE to get out when the weather is bad. In Quebec they made it the law to have winter tires because A) it doesn't make sense to use 4 seasons when temperature is below 0C or 32F. B)people who don't have winter tires will cause accidents or drive so slow that it cause harm to everybody.

I don't know about Michigan Weather, but last time I went to Florida around Chrismas, there was some ice down to Virgina. In that state, for a stretch of something like 10 miles, there was about 20 cars in the ditch PER MILE. Maybe that night was the only night of the year that happens. Maybe it was the once-in-the-century storm. (I know those, they follow me. I was in Orlando when there was snow about 20 years ago...) But otherwize, if you see snow on the road, do you want to be stuck at home? Or do you want to eventually scrap the 35k$ car in an accident?

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Tpms ?

Interesting stuff re TPMS. We pick up our new Venza (V6 AWD Touring Classic silver) tomorrow but are still waiting for the winter wheels. Macpek 18" with Toyo GO2, tires come highly recommended. I spoke with mechanic today and he said that Toyota TPMS requires dealer reprogramming each time you swap off the wheels. Proprietary Toyota computer hookup and software, not much chance that anyone apart from the dealer would invest that type of $$ for Toyota specific tool. :headbang: I will speak with the dealer tomorrow for further details. BTW where did you get your sensors and what was the cost.
 

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Interesting stuff re TPMS. We pick up our new Venza (V6 AWD Touring Classic silver) tomorrow but are still waiting for the winter wheels. Macpek 18" with Toyo GO2, tires come highly recommended. I spoke with mechanic today and he said that Toyota TPMS requires dealer reprogramming each time you swap off the wheels. Proprietary Toyota computer hookup and software, not much chance that anyone apart from the dealer would invest that type of $$ for Toyota specific tool. :headbang: I will speak with the dealer tomorrow for further details. BTW where did you get your sensors and what was the cost.

I agree about re-programming and only a Toyota dealership can do it. I don't know why my TMPS warning came one after a while and went off after, until now. If ever it comes on again, I will have it re-programmed. I ordered the sensors from Toyota for about Cdn $79.00 each.
 

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http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=120

The link to tirerack.com makes the case for snow tires in severe winter conditions. I would not drive without snow tires for my RWD BMW during the winter. On the other hand, some all season tires on an AWD vehicle perform fairly well in snow at least when new. My Acura MDX with Michelin Cross Terrain tires was better in deep or packed snow than my BMW with Michelin X-Ice tires. I expect the Venza to perform much like my MDX did in snow with all season tires.
 

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On the other hand, some all season tires on an AWD vehicle perform fairly well in snow at least when new. My Acura MDX with Michelin Cross Terrain tires was better in deep or packed snow than my BMW with Michelin X-Ice tires. I expect the Venza to perform much like my MDX did in snow with all season tires.
You just mentionned it: Michelin X-Ice tires are good on ICE. It is normal that they will not perform so wheel in snow. Ice tires try to grip on as much ice surface as possible with various technologies. Observe G02+ use nut scaps, Yokohamas use micro-fibers, and so on. But a SNOW tire will have large gripping treads to evatuate the snow as it turns. Larger are the groves, more snow it can evacuate.

So most, if not all, winter tire will be a compromise between the 2. You're not the first one to say that the Michelin are not so good in the snow. It's because is it more a ice tire than you need. Maybe some snow tires would be better in your area/utilization.

But with a 4 seasons tire, you can get good snow evacuation, better than with a ice tire, but when you get out of the deep snow and into a spot of ice, the 4season tire will get so hard and you will slide...

Don't forget that will a 4WD, you get twice the traction when accelerating, but you don't get more braking than with a 2WD. That's where you'll get into a crash which will cost you more in repair/insurance than the set of snow tires. (I did that when I was a poor student with a 800$ car and I did crash it. When you are running at 90 km/h and then the car flips 180 degrees and you are going at 90 km/h BACKWARD, that is not funny. I also scrapped a wheel on a pickup at 30 km/h... Because it couldn't brake. In the last 11 year I used winter tires, never had a crash...)
 
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