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My cousin just found out something i think its really cool., its that if u want to warn up yur car n leave the car. u know u cant lock the car with the running. So my cousin try this n it work, this is a good way for pp live in the cold n dont have to worry about the car get stolen. Here is a way to lock yur car from the outside

1-Start the car(adjust the temp,whatever,radio...)
2-Take yur spare key(which normal we get 3totals)
3-Lock it from the outside using the spare key into the lock, which mean using yur key locking put into the KEY HOLE(old fashion way:naughty::naughty::naughty:) not pushing the button(bc pushing the button wont work i tried)
4-Now yur car is lock, running n getting warn no worry that pp will stole yur car or wait to watching yur car.
5-Now use that key to unlock yur car n get to where u wanna go
6-Enjoy n the warm up car-i like
 

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I did that before, the manual key lock doesn't seem to trigger the "unlock". But I got tired of it cause I have to carry 2 fat keys.

But for the keyless, this might be a good idea.
 

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Thanks. I suggest we leave this as is. We do not need to clutter the STICKY section but will please this in the general sticky thread.

Although door is locked, if someone really wanted to steal your car and sees the key in the ignition, they'll break your window and drive off.

However this would do me no good for me as I have a custom keyhole plug and remote start.
 

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I agree.. a thief can and will just break the window and take it if they really want it. The best way to get around this is to just get a remote start. Also, 99% of all remote starts will even let you remote start it while the car is running. Example: I pull into the local mini-mart. I hit the remote start while it is running. I can then take the key out of the ignition and the car will stay running. Run into the store, buy my *insert "My wife desperately needs this" item*, and hop back into the car without ever turning it off. Car stays nice and warm.
 
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i know we can get remote start but this is just a share for pp that dont have remote start yet. its safer then have the car running without locking. i keep saying ill get a remote start but i kept spending it on something else
 

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might as well leave your car unlocked. because when if you recover the car one less item needs to be replaced. the window.

remote start is highly recommended.
 

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I agree.. a thief can and will just break the window and take it if they really want it. The best way to get around this is to just get a remote start. Also, 99% of all remote starts will even let you remote start it while the car is running. Example: I pull into the local mini-mart. I hit the remote start while it is running. I can then take the key out of the ignition and the car will stay running. Run into the store, buy my *insert "My wife desperately needs this" item*, and hop back into the car without ever turning it off. Car stays nice and warm.
Not only that but you also wasted gas. With gas prices we currently have I only use my remote start in the morning to warm up my car since its been all night in the cold. However I dont think car goes back to Cold in less than an hour while your getting some groceries. It might get cold inside but as soon as you turn your heat back on it will throw out warm air since it hasnt been that long.
 
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what i am trying to say is if u dont have remote start so this will help rather then nt, also for pp warm there car without locking the door
 

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i usually dont warm up my car besides letting it sit for a minute or so and then turning on the heated seats and going. but i do have a awesome alternative solution to remote start.... send someone outside, have them start it, and then lock the door. pretty much same as remote start :lol:
 
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^never heard that be4. so dont close pls. like Radar is illegal in my state not other place, this is just for share
 

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I know in NYC, its illegal to idle you car in front of schools due to pollution.

"There is no federal anti-idling law, but about 30 states and dozens of municipalities have their own measures, typically limiting time to around three to five minutes. New York City's three-minute law has been in place citywide since 1971, but advocates say it is rarely enforced or advertised." - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29258343/


http://bloviatingzeppelin.blogspot.com/2009/07/illegal-to-idle-your-car.html

In Nashville, its illegal to idle you car with keys in the ignition due to what I mentioned before...theft.

In Minnesota, idling the car for more than 3 mins (except in traffic) is illegal.

"Idling uses more gas every 10 seconds than restarting your car. An average car burns almost a gallon of gas for every hour of idling. Today’s engines warm up in less than 30 seconds. Excessive idling can damage your engine components, including cylinders, spark plugs and exhaust systems" - http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/airquality/docs/No_IdlingFlyer_08.pdf
 

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Additional info...

"Approximately 15 states and dozens of local counties have promulgated laws that restrict the amount of time that a vehicle can idle its main engine. In April 2006, EPA compiled a list of state and local anti-idling laws (PDF) (102 pp, 506K) (EPA420-B-06-004, April 2006). Since the publication of this document, new state and local anti-idling laws may have been passed, and existing laws may have been modified. For a continually updated list of state and local laws, see the American Transportation Research Institute's (ATRI's) current list of state and local laws." - http://www.epa.gov/otaq/smartway/transport/what-smartway/idling-reduction-state-laws.htm

"When the temperatures become bitter cold, many people start their vehicles to warm up the engine before hitting the road.

While letting your car run unattended in your own driveway is legal, public property laws are a different matter. Galesburg Police Chief Dave Christensen said Illinois has a law that makes leaving an unattended vehicle running on public property illegal.

“The law is intended to keep an owner from leaving the vehicle running while unattended thus preventing the vehicle being taken by an unauthorized person,” said Christensen.

Christensen said officers generally use discretion in enforcing that law, especially in cold weather, and don’t often cite the violation. “Violations are generally complaint driven, or after a vehicle was taken by an unauthorized person — a child for instance.”

Allowing a car to warm up on private property is hardly a controversial issue but not everyone agrees on the practicality of the practice.

“Many people, especially those with remote starters, may start their cars 10 to 15 minutes before driving,” said Dan Allen, parts and service director at Galesburg Toyota. “I have even heard of people starting them as much as 30 minutes before driving. But a long warm-up like that is not good for a car.”

Jim Morgan, parts and service director at Galesburg Lincoln Mercury Nissan, agreed. “Most cars should be warmed up at least a minute,” Morgan said. “In extreme cold, about 10 minutes of warm up is enough.”

Idling time over 15 minutes could actually be harmful to the vehicle, Morga said. “Any longer than that and the car can overheat. There also is the potential of fire if a car idles for an extended period of time.”

Excessive idling can damage engine components, including cylinders, spark plugs and exhaust systems. Fuel is only partially combusted when idling because an engine operate best at its peak temperature. This leads to the build up of fuel residues on cylinder walls that can damage engine components and increase fuel consumption.

Allen said winter fuel efficiency is one of car owners’ biggest complaints. “People want to know why their fuel economy goes down so much in cold weather. Even letting a car warm up five to 10 minutes burns gas,” he said.

Idling gets zero miles to the gallon and according to the Consumer Energy Center, for every two minutes a car is idling, it uses about the same amount of fuel it takes to go about one mile.

According to the CEC, idling is not an effective way to warm up your vehicle, even in cold weather. The best way to do this is to drive the vehicle. With today’s modern engines, you need no more than 30 seconds of idling on winter days before putting the car into gear." - http://www.galesburg.com/features/x1409359407/Idling-not-good-for-engine-and-can-be-illegal
 
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wow i didnt know this. sorry guy i was trying to help
 
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