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curently I own a gen4 camry with the I4 5s-FE and i was looking at the v6 1mz-fe (i'm thinking about doing a v6 swap to learn more about cars). However i wanted to get one with vvtL-i. I know that there is the 1mz-fe vvt-i but i'm not sure if they have it in Lift.

If the 1mz-fe doens't come in Lift, which v6's does?

sorry i tried searching with no luck.
thanks for your help
 

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My opinion is that anything with a "G" type head would fit the bill.




ie

4A-GE
18R-G
5M-GE
7M-GE/7M-GTE
2ZZ-GE


etc... granted, there are motors like the 1UZ-FE, and countless other "F" head engines used for perfomance applications.
 

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Moving Forward
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is the 3mz equipped with vvti-l or not. I ahve never paid any attention to it
 

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repinS said:
My opinion is that anything with a "G" type head would fit the bill.




ie

4A-GE
18R-G
5M-GE
7M-GE/7M-GTE
2ZZ-GE


etc... granted, there are motors like the 1UZ-FE, and countless other "F" head engines used for perfomance applications.
Yeah, but you really wouldn't want to swap any of those in a gen 4 cam.....

They're also pretty cold and don't have vvti...
 

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If you want the 2zz-ge with Lift (VVTL-i) you have 4 choices: New Matrix XRS, New Corolla XRS, used Celica GT-S, or a Lotus Elise.

Lift is fun!

With VVTL-i I get great gas milage and low end power while putting around town, and when I want to drag race or just gun it getting on the freeway I have tons of top end power at hand. Very little compromise with this motor, all good stuff. They last a long time like other toyota motors, even with a little abuse...
 

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357wheelgunner said:
If you want the 2zz-ge with Lift (VVTL-i) you have 4 choices: New Matrix XRS, New Corolla XRS, used Celica GT-S, or a Lotus Elise.
Thes motors are weak. And they aren't even guarunteed to fit in your car.....

Sure the lotus has one, but that thing is like 2000 pounds and If i remember correctly, its actually rated at like 200 hp instead of the 166 of the XRS and such....
 

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Why not build up you 5s-fe? That is a great way to learn. Engine swaps aren't really that simple. Besides, you already have a decent motor. Even if you get a v6, it isn't a garuntee you'll be faster than some of us with I4's.
 

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CamNub said:
Thes motors are weak. And they aren't even guarunteed to fit in your car.....

Sure the lotus has one, but that thing is like 2000 pounds and If i remember correctly, its actually rated at like 200 hp instead of the 166 of the XRS and such....
How are these motors weak? The HP is toned down for torque, and the Corolla XRS is as fast stock as the K20 Civic SI or Acura RSX-S. Mod for mod the XRS gets even better.

And I was not talking about "fitting" a motor, I was talking about buying a car. His camry is way to heavy to work with the 2zz.

Oh and to the original poster, if you want to learn about cars the worst thing i could think of is a I4 to V6 swap, you are likely to get confused and frustrated and not learn much. I'd recomend something rear wheel drive for learning, everything is spaced out instead of all crammed up front.

Look for an old AE86 corolla for a cheap RWD beater to work on, you'll love it :)
 

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camry

ok i dont know what years gen 4 falls into but i have a 96 camry le i4 5sfe....i know next to nothing about cars, especially how to make them better, faster whatever. but i found that doing small mods like i have, intake, plugs/wires, strut bars, lights.....do teach you things about your car. so def do not swap engines, besides i heard that the v6 is mad hard to swap parts with and stuff.
 

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As it's been stated, the only toyota engine with lift right now is the 2ZZ-GE (from the celica GT-S and corolla/matrix XRS). Not a good candidate for a camry (because the camry is fairly heavy, and the 2zz acts like a 1zz outside of lift)
 

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357wheelgunner said:
How are these motors weak? The HP is toned down for torque, and the Corolla XRS is as fast stock as the K20 Civic SI or Acura RSX-S. Mod for mod the XRS gets even better.

And I was not talking about "fitting" a motor, I was talking about buying a car. His camry is way to heavy to work with the 2zz.
Are you serious? The XRS is so underpowered it's not even funny. I really don't see how Toyota can market it as "sporty." Compared to it's competition its 10x slower...

Toyota XRS
164 @ 7600 RPM
125 @ 4400 RPM

Civic SI
197 @ 7800 RPM
139 @ 6100 RPM

RSX-S
201 @ 7800 RPM
140 @ 7000 RPM
 

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^ but the xrs hits its maximum torqe lower in the rpm range and has the smallest displacement

and the celica gt-s is rated at 180hp at 1.8L thats a 100hp per liter, bet those cars cant brag about that
 

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The Civic SI and RSX-S are so heavy it's a joke. They are not lightweight powerful street machines, they are heavy powerful street cars.

I've raced 2 RSX-Ss and beat both of them, one was stock,as was I at the time, and the second had Intake/Headers/Exaust and I hade intake/exaust. The first one I beat by a long ways, the second was close with me winning.

170HP/2450lbs vs 200HP/2900lbs, the lighter XRS wins.
 

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Y'all forgot the 3SGTE :boink: :banger:
 

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The Cool Guy
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2JZ-FE isn't that the supra engine?
 

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Super Kaioken said:
2JZ-FE isn't that the supra engine?

2JZ-GE --> MKIV NA

2JZ-GTE --> MKIV TT





There woulda been hell to pay if the Supra got an "F" style head... ;)
 

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oh whoops....:lol: was it the 2JZ-GTTE right? tt for twin turbo? or was that the skyline engine =/ i forget. i'm getting them confused.
 

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CamNub said:
Are you serious? The XRS is so underpowered it's not even funny. I really don't see how Toyota can market it as "sporty." Compared to it's competition its 10x slower...

Toyota XRS
164 @ 7600 RPM
125 @ 4400 RPM

Civic SI
197 @ 7800 RPM
139 @ 6100 RPM

RSX-S
201 @ 7800 RPM
140 @ 7000 RPM
:werd:
 
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