[SR5-2006]

Wheel wobble after 33's & rims...(Update!!)

Hey guys,

I just had a set of 285-75-16 Cooper Discover ATRs mounted on a set of 16X8 MB Gunner 6's.
Now at certain speeds, arround 50-55, and sometimes at other speeds, I get a significant wobble in the steering wheel. I immeditely brought the truck back to the guy that mounted the tires and he said that he did the best he could to balance the wheels but that the rims themselves were way out of balance. He added that most aftermarket rims are so out of whack that it is impossible to get them perfectly balanced. He basically told me that most people inclucing himself just live with it. He did tell me that I can come back Thursday night and he can re-spin them to see if he could get them any better.

I have a really hard time accepting this. My wheel must wobble a good 1-2" when it gets going. Any suggestions?

They used those sticky weights directly behind the wheel spokes if that makes a difference.

Additional Info:
Truck does have a 3" OME lift
Very slight occasional vibration prior to new wheels & tires, still there.

 

[amp2oo1]

What kind of shop balanced and mounted them? If it were me I'd go to another shop to get a second opinion or get it done right.

 

[SR5-2006]

Local Mavis Tire Shop

Maybe a suspension / tire shop would be better?

 

[thoughthard]

Hubcentric rings being used?

 

[NorCalTacoma]

All those national chain places that install wheels/tires usually don't know what they are doing.

A high performance shop or a custom shop with a "Haweka Lug-Centric" wheel adapter should be able to correct your issue.

Toyota wheels need special balancing with that lug-centric wheel adapter, most shops don't even have the adapter!

 

[toku58]

Is your caster in spec? Are you running stock UCA's? I had the same problem that is why I am changing my UCA's. A small bump can cause the tire to wobble. Or feel "Squirrelly" at speed.

 

[BillBrasky]

Get them Road-Force balanced using the adapter/finger-plate.:thumbup:

 

[TucsonTRD]

you're getting suggestions from every angle here. but one thing is for sure. it isn't normal, and it isn't acceptable. i wouldn't spend any money at another shop. i'd take it to the original shop and tell them to get it right or give you back every penny you gave them. don't give in to their bull shit

 

[tntroy1]

take it to a shop that has a ROAD FORCE BALANCE machine. they can check the rim for true runout and match the tire to the rim for optimal roundness.. try www.hunter.com they list local shops that have the HUNTER GSP 9700 road force machine.. http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm .. Then i would go back to the tire shop that did the install and get the install/balance fee refunded...

troy
2007 double cab prerunner l/b

 

[va beach taco]

I had this problem before as well, went to a shop with the lug centric adapter for balancing and I had ET lugs installed, problem went away.

 

[SR5-2006]

They used a hub centric balancer. I'll check around for a shop with a lug centric.
I have the stock UCAs, so the camber is still off a tiny bit but my alignment guy said he got it as close to spec as possible. I did the lift & alignment over a month ago and had no wobble until the new wheels & tires so I don't think the UCAs are the issue. Also, this is not caused by bumps, it is more of a speed related thing. Changing wheels & tires shouldn't require a new alignment though.

 

[SR5-2006]

I think trying a lug-centric balancing machine will be my best bet, but what are ET lugs?
I used the thinner lug nuts needed for these rims.

 

[NorCalTacoma]

Yeah, it's DEFINATELY the balancing of the wheels/tires.

Demand that they use the Haweka Lug-Centric adapter or something similar.


If not, demand a refund for the labor and take your wheels/tires somewhere else.

Don't be afraid to spend the bank, I spent over $100 just to install the wheels and tires on my truck. I can happily say that they are perfect.

 

[SR5-2006]

They charged me 1/2 price on the mounting & balancing anyway, maybe $6 / tire.
Not even worth the headache of going back to them.
I'll find a better shop with the right equipment.
Thanks for the help guys. Time for bed, must recover for work tommorrow.:

 

[amp2oo1]

They charged me 1/2 price on the mounting & balancing anyway, maybe $6 / tire.
Not even worth the headache of going back to them.
I'll find a better shop with the right equipment.
Thanks for the help guys. Time for bed, must recover for work tommorrow.:

There you go.. The problem is $6 per tire. Mine were about $25-30 per wheel but worth it. Just some change compared to how much the truck and tires cost

 

[toku58]

They used a hub centric balancer. I'll check around for a shop with a lug centric.
I have the stock UCAs, so the camber is still off a tiny bit but my alignment guy said he got it as close to spec as possible. I did the lift & alignment over a month ago and had no wobble until the new wheels & tires so I don't think the UCAs are the issue. Also, this is not caused by bumps, it is more of a speed related thing. Changing wheels & tires shouldn't require a new alignment though.

For myself personally the "Squirrelly" feeling wasn't an issue when I had the lift with the stock tire. But after I installed the 33" tire it became a problem.
I'm not saying that it isn't your balancing? But I am saying that if you want your truck to handle close to stock? You need to get a set of UCA's.
After I get the alignment correct I will see if there is a vibration issue. The reason I want to correct the alignment first is because the wobble doesn't happen all the time. It only occurs on my truck every once in a while. If it was a balance issue then it would happen everytime I hit a certain speed.
This lift thing is a process of weeding out the variables.
The "road force" is a good idea! make sure they have the "Haweka". But somewhere down the road I highly recommend the UCA's. (I would gain nothing if you do or you don't get it. I am just trying to help)
Good luck!!

 

[BillBrasky]

SR5-2006- Read this thread

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t164212.html

 

[thapranksta]

Got any pics of the truck on 33s? :naughty:

 

[toku58]

Got any pics of the truck on 33s? :naughty:

Yeah! No more help unless we get some pics.!! You've been keeping us waiting for weeks!:disappoin :cursin:
No soup for you!!!:slap:

 

[SR5-2006]

Didn't want to post pics until I had her done. I guess it's close enough. Will snap a couple of shots at lunch and load them up today.
I will be getting UCAs eventually, but first I need a set of sliders!