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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I was reading the trouble shooting section of my owner manual today and
it said that dirty or incorrect tranny fluid could cause the shudder
that mine is doing (Im thinking it was the tranny all along but dealer
will not do anything untill it gets worse). I opened the hood and can
not find a dipstick anywhere. I know where it was on my 2000 but could
not find one or even where one could go at. On my 2000 it was on the
right hand side a few inches away from firewall but there is not one on
the 05 nor does the book show one anywhere?
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
No dipstick. The '05 has the A750 transmission in which the ATF level gauge
(dipstick) has been discontinued, and the ATF inspection method and the oil
level inspection method have been changed. This mechanism consists of a
refill plug, overflow plug, ATF temperature sensor No.2, and A/T OIL TEMP
temperature warning light.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I was reading the trouble shooting section of my owner manual today and
> it said that dirty or incorrect tranny fluid could cause the shudder
> that mine is doing (Im thinking it was the tranny all along but dealer
> will not do anything untill it gets worse). I opened the hood and can
> not find a dipstick anywhere. I know where it was on my 2000 but could
> not find one or even where one could go at. On my 2000 it was on the
> right hand side a few inches away from firewall but there is not one on
> the 05 nor does the book show one anywhere?
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
CERTAINLY a DUMBASS thing for Toyota to do. I have been a Toyota fan for a
decade and a half but bit by bit (cheapening sheet metal, rattly plastic
interiors, fly-by-wire throttles, and now no ATF dipstick), Toyota is
falling out of favor with me.
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- Philip

"Glenn Arsenault" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No dipstick. The '05 has the A750 transmission in which the ATF level
> gauge (dipstick) has been discontinued, and the ATF inspection method and
> the oil level inspection method have been changed. This mechanism
> consists of a refill plug, overflow plug, ATF temperature sensor No.2, and
> A/T OIL TEMP temperature warning light.
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>I was reading the trouble shooting section of my owner manual today and
>> it said that dirty or incorrect tranny fluid could cause the shudder
>> that mine is doing (Im thinking it was the tranny all along but dealer
>> will not do anything untill it gets worse). I opened the hood and can
>> not find a dipstick anywhere. I know where it was on my 2000 but could
>> not find one or even where one could go at. On my 2000 it was on the
>> right hand side a few inches away from firewall but there is not one on
>> the 05 nor does the book show one anywhere?
>>

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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Most new auto tranys now have no dipsticks.
Joe

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I was reading the trouble shooting section of my owner manual today and
> it said that dirty or incorrect tranny fluid could cause the shudder
> that mine is doing (Im thinking it was the tranny all along but dealer
> will not do anything untill it gets worse). I opened the hood and can
> not find a dipstick anywhere. I know where it was on my 2000 but could
> not find one or even where one could go at. On my 2000 it was on the
> right hand side a few inches away from firewall but there is not one on
> the 05 nor does the book show one anywhere?
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Philip wrote:
> CERTAINLY a DUMBASS thing for Toyota to do. I have been a Toyota fan for a
> decade and a half but bit by bit (cheapening sheet metal, rattly plastic
> interiors, fly-by-wire throttles, and now no ATF dipstick), Toyota is
> falling out of favor with me.


What is your alternative?
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Philip wrote:
>> CERTAINLY a DUMBASS thing for Toyota to do. I have been a Toyota fan for
>> a decade and a half but bit by bit (cheapening sheet metal, rattly
>> plastic interiors, fly-by-wire throttles, and now no ATF dipstick),
>> Toyota is falling out of favor with me.

>
> What is your alternative?


With regard to the ATF oil check/fill provision, LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE. A
dip stick and tube work fine have worked fine since automatic transmissions
came into being.

With regard to product cheapening ... aka "value engineering", I've already
sent letters to Toyota both here in the US and Japan reminding them of how
they got the reputation they have and also how they are losing it. Take
this to the bank ... you don't want to get a 3 page letter from me on this
subject.

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- Philip
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
The odds are very good that your '05 Tundra has neither dirty or incorrect
tranny fluid.





<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I was reading the trouble shooting section of my owner manual today and
> it said that dirty or incorrect tranny fluid could cause the shudder
> that mine is doing (Im thinking it was the tranny all along but dealer
> will not do anything untill it gets worse). I opened the hood and can
> not find a dipstick anywhere. I know where it was on my 2000 but could
> not find one or even where one could go at. On my 2000 it was on the
> right hand side a few inches away from firewall but there is not one on
> the 05 nor does the book show one anywhere?
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Thanks for the replies, I had no idea there was no dipstick. Changing
the fluid might not help but wanted to try. I have put he truck up for
sell, not because of this problem but financial hardship recently
encountered. I want whoever buys it to be very happy with it. Only
problem is Ive always heard how Toyotas hold their value and I cant even
get the payoff of 21000 out of it and this was what I was quoted 5
months ago for a base moldel no frills LWB Tundra and this is a loaded
SR5 DC!
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
However, if the shuddering is permitted to continue, the fluid WILL become
burned due to slippage at the malfunctioning clutch(es).


"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:D[email protected]
> The odds are very good that your '05 Tundra has neither dirty or incorrect
> tranny fluid.
>
>
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>I was reading the trouble shooting section of my owner manual today and
>> it said that dirty or incorrect tranny fluid could cause the shudder
>> that mine is doing (Im thinking it was the tranny all along but dealer
>> will not do anything untill it gets worse). I opened the hood and can
>> not find a dipstick anywhere. I know where it was on my 2000 but could
>> not find one or even where one could go at. On my 2000 it was on the
>> right hand side a few inches away from firewall but there is not one on
>> the 05 nor does the book show one anywhere?
>>

>
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:D[email protected]
> The odds are very good that your '05 Tundra has neither dirty or incorrect
> tranny fluid.
>
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>I was reading the trouble shooting section of my owner manual today and
>> it said that dirty or incorrect tranny fluid could cause the shudder
>> that mine is doing (Im thinking it was the tranny all along but dealer
>> will not do anything untill it gets worse). I opened the hood and can
>> not find a dipstick anywhere. I know where it was on my 2000 but could
>> not find one or even where one could go at. On my 2000 it was on the
>> right hand side a few inches away from firewall but there is not one on
>> the 05 nor does the book show one anywhere?
>>

>

The newer Tundra automatic transmissions are like manuals. They have a fill
plug in the side along with a drain plug in the bottom.

BBTaco
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Philip wrote:
> "B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Philip wrote:
>>> Toyota is falling out of favor with me.

>> What is your alternative?

>
> With regard to the ATF oil check/fill provision, LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE.


That's not what I asked. <G>

Since Toyota is falling out of your favor, what will you buy?
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Thanks for the replies, I had no idea there was no dipstick. Changing
> the fluid might not help but wanted to try. I have put he truck up for
> sell, not because of this problem but financial hardship recently
> encountered. I want whoever buys it to be very happy with it. Only
> problem is Ive always heard how Toyotas hold their value and I cant even
> get the payoff of 21000 out of it and this was what I was quoted 5
> months ago for a base moldel no frills LWB Tundra and this is a loaded
> SR5 DC!
>


Is $21,000.00 the purchase price of a new version of your truck? If yes,
where did you get the idea that you could sell it for that price? Toyotas
*do* hold their value well, but nobody's going to pay the "new" price for a
used vehicle. If you were talking about a collector's piece, like maybe a
1978 Porsche Carerra, it would be different.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Philip wrote:
>> "B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message news:[email protected]
>>> Philip wrote:
>>>> Toyota is falling out of favor with me.
>>> What is your alternative?

>>
>> With regard to the ATF oil check/fill provision, LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE.

>
> That's not what I asked. <G>
>
> Since Toyota is falling out of your favor, what will you buy?


At this time for an economical long lived passenger car, the choice
presently is still Toyota. But not by the wide margin it used to be.
Notice the things I listed are mostly body/interior issues. But the
fly-by-wire throttle crap is the first objection I have to Toyota's
electronic engine control foolishness. BUT ... there is one engine
mechanical matter that I'm watching. MOST PEOPLE do not know that the
current generation Corollas no longer have conventional valve seats.
Aluminum head ... no pressed in valve seats. Instead, there is a coating
process much like Nikasil cylinder coatings ... a process known as laser
cladding for valve seats. This makes for a cylinder head whose seats cannot
be reground in the unlikely event of a needed valve job. Now Toyotas
needing valve jobs is not common but ... that was in the past. Anybody have
300-400k miles on a 2003 Corolla? Time will tell and the public is the
ultimate test driver.
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
No, 21,000 was not near the purchase price. If there is a dealer
anywhere that would sell a 05 Tundra for that price sure would like to
have known about it this past July. Talked to the salesperson today that
I bought it from and his best price on an 06 like mine was right at 29k
even with the rebate. I took it in this morning to have the tranny fluid
changed. They kept it all day and called at 5pm and told me they would
have to order the fluid, did not have any for the 05,s. They drove my
truck again (including the salesperson) and said what I was feeling was
normal behavior for my model truck so I guess I will just have to live
with it. Make me feel like a dumbazz.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Philip wrote:
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> known as laser cladding for valve seats. This makes for a cylinder
> head whose seats cannot be reground in the unlikely event of a needed
> valve job. Now Toyotas needing valve jobs is not snip


Phillip,
Just wondering, do you know if the heads could be cut and new replacement
seats be installed?
davidj92
 
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