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I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles. I was thinking
of having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles.
Reliability is very important to me. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks
 
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>I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
> one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles. I was thinking
> of having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles.
> Reliability is very important to me. Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>


One of the most troublesome accessories I've seen are aftermarket security
systems and remote starter systems. Most are installed with Scotch-lock
connectors which often work loose, or they cause other problems. Someone
recently posted a question regarding his van that would randomly start by
itself - he'd come out to the driveway and find it running. Turns out that
it was an old remote starter system that was causing the problem. I've seen
aftermarket systems cause dead batteries or other no-start conditions. Some
aftermarket systems are great, but more are less than reliable.
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Ray O wrote:

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> One of the most troublesome accessories I've seen are aftermarket security
> systems and remote starter systems.


-- Snip Ray's excellent technical data --

Not to mention the sheer waste of cars sitting and idling.
 
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[email protected] wrote:
> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
> one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles. I was thinking
> of having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles.
> Reliability is very important to me. Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>

I put a Bulldog remote starter/door lock on my Toyota 3 years ago.
Works great. Installation wasn't to difficult. Sams has them at a good
price.
It's 20 degrees outside, if I go any where today you better believe
I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go any
where.
http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/
 
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I think it was Moe <[email protected]> who stated:


>I put a Bulldog remote starter/door lock on my Toyota 3 years ago.
>Works great. Installation wasn't to difficult. Sams has them at a good
>price.
> It's 20 degrees outside, if I go any where today you better believe
>I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go any
>where.


What a waste. Wasting fuel and wearing the engine unnecessarily. The
BEST way to warm up an engine is to drive the car gently as soon as
it's started; that's also the quickest way to warm it up.

Twenty degrees?? Hardly cold. Minus twenty maybe . . . .

-Don in TROPICAL Minnesota

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:52:52 -0600, Moe wrote:

> Don Fearn wrote:
>> I think it was Moe <[email protected]> who stated:
>>
>>
>>> I put a Bulldog remote starter/door lock on my Toyota 3 years ago.
>>> Works great. Installation wasn't to difficult. Sams has them at a
>>> good price.
>>> It's 20 degrees outside, if I go any where today you better believe
>>> I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go
>>> any where.

>>
>> What a waste. Wasting fuel and wearing the engine unnecessarily. The
>> BEST way to warm up an engine is to drive the car gently as soon as it's
>> started; that's also the quickest way to warm it up.
>>
>> Twenty degrees?? Hardly cold. Minus twenty maybe . . . .
>>
>> -Don in TROPICAL Minnesota
>>
>> --
>> Light travels faster than sound; this is why some people appear bright
>> until you hear them speak

> Waste? I'll match my carbon footprint to anyone's. I'm so cheap I
> use a rented opossum for a watchdog. But remotely warming the car up on
> cold days is one thing I'll spend a dime on. Reminds me, gas is now 1.85
> here.



Shaddup...

$2.33 here...
 
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"Hachiroku ????" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:52:52 -0600, Moe wrote:
>
>> Don Fearn wrote:
>>> I think it was Moe <[email protected]> who stated:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I put a Bulldog remote starter/door lock on my Toyota 3 years ago.
>>>> Works great. Installation wasn't to difficult. Sams has them at a
>>>> good price.
>>>> It's 20 degrees outside, if I go any where today you better believe
>>>> I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go
>>>> any where.
>>>
>>> What a waste. Wasting fuel and wearing the engine unnecessarily. The
>>> BEST way to warm up an engine is to drive the car gently as soon as it's
>>> started; that's also the quickest way to warm it up.
>>>
>>> Twenty degrees?? Hardly cold. Minus twenty maybe . . . .
>>>
>>> -Don in TROPICAL Minnesota
>>>
>>> --
>>> Light travels faster than sound; this is why some people appear bright
>>> until you hear them speak

>> Waste? I'll match my carbon footprint to anyone's. I'm so cheap I
>> use a rented opossum for a watchdog. But remotely warming the car up on
>> cold days is one thing I'll spend a dime on. Reminds me, gas is now
>> 1.85
>> here.

>
>
> Shaddup...
>
> $2.33 here...


$2.47 here; well, as of a couple of days ago.

But I love my remote starter; was sick of scraping ice each winter.

Cathy
 
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"Cathy F." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Hachiroku ????" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:52:52 -0600, Moe wrote:
>>
>>> Don Fearn wrote:
>>>> I think it was Moe <[email protected]> who stated:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I put a Bulldog remote starter/door lock on my Toyota 3 years ago.
>>>>> Works great. Installation wasn't to difficult. Sams has them at a
>>>>> good price.
>>>>> It's 20 degrees outside, if I go any where today you better
>>>>> believe
>>>>> I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go
>>>>> any where.
>>>>
>>>> What a waste. Wasting fuel and wearing the engine unnecessarily. The
>>>> BEST way to warm up an engine is to drive the car gently as soon as
>>>> it's
>>>> started; that's also the quickest way to warm it up.
>>>>
>>>> Twenty degrees?? Hardly cold. Minus twenty maybe . . . .
>>>>
>>>> -Don in TROPICAL Minnesota
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Light travels faster than sound; this is why some people appear bright
>>>> until you hear them speak
>>> Waste? I'll match my carbon footprint to anyone's. I'm so cheap I
>>> use a rented opossum for a watchdog. But remotely warming the car up on
>>> cold days is one thing I'll spend a dime on. Reminds me, gas is now
>>> 1.85
>>> here.

>>
>>
>> Shaddup...
>>
>> $2.33 here...

>
> $2.47 here; well, as of a couple of days ago.
>
> But I love my remote starter; was sick of scraping ice each winter.
>
> Cathy


Lowest around here is $2.18

I remember everyone making a fuss when gas went over a dollar a gallon...

Natalie
 
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I think it was "Wickeddoll®" <[email protected]>
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>I remember everyone making a fuss when gas went over a dollar a gallon...


Heh, heh, heh . . . I remember the fuss when gas went over 50 cents a
gallon . . . !

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected]
"=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=" writes:

> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:52:52 -0600, Moe wrote:
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> > [...] Reminds me, gas is now 1.85 here.

>
> Shaddup...
>
> $2.33 here...


Just so you can all feel better about life: GBP 0.849/litre here,
the other day before latest price drops of GBP 0.02 or so. (Erm,
in foreign-speak that'd be 3 cowrie shells or $6.27/funnygallon.)
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:09:21 GMT, [email protected] (Andrew
Stephenson) wrote:
>In article <[email protected], Hachiroku writes:
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:52:52 -0600, Moe wrote:


>> > [...] Reminds me, gas is now 1.85 here.

>>
>> Shaddup... $2.33 here...

>
>Just so you can all feel better about life: GBP 0.849/litre here,
>the other day before latest price drops of GBP 0.02 or so. (Erm,
>in foreign-speak that'd be 3 cowrie shells or $6.27/funnygallon.)


Roughly half of the USA'n retail price for Gasoline and Diesel is in
taxes and fees leveled at all levels of extraction, refining and
transport, wholesale distribution and retail sale, so if you are
paying triple what we are...

Gee, I thought the Queen repealed the 95% top tax rate - the one
that inspired the line "That's one for you, nineteen for me." And the
reason why the Beatles left England and 'Mr. Tax Man' to live in
greener pastures where you keep most of what you earned (as did
everyone else with lots of money and any common sense in those days).

Let's see, we had that 'little Tea Tax protest' in Boston Harbor in
December 1773, what could you lot do that would have the same sort of
lasting impact on public policy...? ;-)

--<< Bruce >>--
 
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[email protected]lid "Bruce L. Bergman" writes:

> Let's see, we had that 'little Tea Tax protest' in Boston
> Harbor in December 1773, what could you lot do that would have
> the same sort of lasting impact on public policy...? ;-)


Well, a drunken gang of our lads could raid McDonalds costumed as
Beefeaters and chuck all their buns in the Thames. That any use?
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:09:21 +0000, Andrew Stephenson wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected]
> "=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=" writes:
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>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:52:52 -0600, Moe wrote:
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>> > [...] Reminds me, gas is now 1.85 here.

>>
>> Shaddup...
>>
>> $2.33 here...

>
> Just so you can all feel better about life: GBP 0.849/litre here, the
> other day before latest price drops of GBP 0.02 or so. (Erm, in
> foreign-speak that'd be 3 cowrie shells or $6.27/funnygallon.)



You have our sympathy.

I guess British Petroleum is making all their profits off you guys, eh?
 
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:57:27 +0000, Andrew Stephenson wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected]lid "Bruce L. Bergman" writes:
>
>> Let's see, we had that 'little Tea Tax protest' in Boston
>> Harbor in December 1773, what could you lot do that would have the same
>> sort of lasting impact on public policy...? ;-)

>
> Well, a drunken gang of our lads could raid McDonalds costumed as
> Beefeaters and chuck all their buns in the Thames. That any use?



You talking buns, or *buns*?
 
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"Moe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] wrote:
>> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
>> one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles. I was thinking
>> of having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles.
>> Reliability is very important to me. Any suggestions are appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>

> I put a Bulldog remote starter/door lock on my Toyota 3 years ago. Works
> great. Installation wasn't to difficult. Sams has them at a good price.
> It's 20 degrees outside, if I go any where today you better believe
> I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go any
> where.


20 degrees. That's barely below freezing. What an incredible wimp you are.
Up here in Edmonton, we don''t plug in our block heaters or start the car
early, UNLESS it is below MINUS 25 Celsius, i.e. 13 BELOW Fahrenheit.



> http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/
 
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"=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=" writes:

> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:57:27 +0000, Andrew Stephenson wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>
> > [email protected]lid "Bruce L. Bergman" writes:
> >
> >> Let's see, we had that 'little Tea Tax protest' in Boston
> >> Harbor in December 1773, what could you lot do that would have the same
> >> sort of lasting impact on public policy...? ;-)

> >
> > Well, a drunken gang of our lads could raid McDonalds costumed as
> > Beefeaters and chuck all their buns in the Thames. That any use?

>
> You talking buns, or *buns*?


:) Hah. Overlooked that interpretation. Let's be _thorough_.
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:01:32 +0000, sharx35 wrote:

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> "Hachiroku ????" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:03:07 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
>>> one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles. I was thinking
>>> of having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles. Reliability
>>> is very
>>> important to me. Any suggestions are appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks

>>
>> The only trouble with this is, they work up to 1/4 mile away, so when
>> you say you want to start both vehicles,you *will* be starting both
>> vehicles! There's no way to differentiate, unless the mfg allows
>> something like one push for one starer and two for the other.
>>
>> As far as programming, the remote starters are programmed to the fobs.
>> You will have to perform both programmings at the SAME time in order to
>> have one fob control both cars.

>
> WHY have ONE key or FOB control more than ONE car? Stupid. Every remote
> starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage door openers.


Alarms and starters can be 'taught' the code from the fob, so if both
starters are the same, they will work off one fob...


All the time...


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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:01:32 GMT, "sharx35" <[email protected]>
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>"Hachiroku ????" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:03:07 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like one
>>> remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles. I was thinking of
>>> having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles. Reliability is
>>> very
>>> important to me. Any suggestions are appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks

>>
>> The only trouble with this is, they work up to 1/4 mile away, so when you
>> say you want to start both vehicles,you *will* be starting both vehicles!
>> There's no way to differentiate, unless the mfg allows something like one
>> push for one starer and two for the other.
>>
>> As far as programming, the remote starters are programmed to the fobs. You
>> will have to perform both programmings at the SAME time in order to have
>> one fob control both cars.

>
>WHY have ONE key or FOB control more than ONE car? Stupid.


Very.

>Every remote starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage door openers.


The fobs can only be programmed to one control at a time. As it
should be.

BTW, to the OP, you should also consider the laws of your state and
locality. Many disallow allowing a car to run without an occupant,
some disallow long periods of idle. Bet the neocons don't know
_WHY_. :)

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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:44:30 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:

>>Every remote starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage
>>door openers.

>
> The fobs can only be programmed to one control at a time. As it should
> be.


Oh, no...they all have 'learning modes'.

If the control module and the fobs are of the same make and model, you can
program all the fobs to work with whatever control you're dealing with.
The control learns the code from the fob, not vice-versa.
 
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:12:21 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <[email protected]>
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>On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:44:30 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
>>>Every remote starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage
>>>door openers.

>>
>> The fobs can only be programmed to one control at a time. As it should
>> be.

>
>Oh, no...they all have 'learning modes'.
>
>If the control module and the fobs are of the same make and model, you can
>program all the fobs to work with whatever control you're dealing with.
>The control learns the code from the fob, not vice-versa.


You just said two different things. First you said you can program
all the fobs to work with whatever control, then you said the control
learns from the fobs.

Make up your mind and get back to me.

As far as I can tell, just as with garage door openers, you can't use
one fob with more than one car, but you can use more than one fob with
the same car. The reason being that the communication during
programming tells the fob about the one controller.








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