[Bjnzzzle]

Hi guys. I am going to replace the front rotors and pads on my 12' Camry SE I4. I know the OEM part number is 0446507010 and this pad is semi-metallic . I found on eBay the OEM ceramic that will fit just like the 0446507010 and the part number is 04465-AZ020-TM.

Has anybody used this ceramic (04465-AZ020-TM) before? Will it fit and how does it compare to the semi-metallic one? Also, the price is cheaper than the semi-metallic

Thank you

 

[Greasymechtech]

Why would you want to replace a premium semi-metallic with an economy ceramic?

Go to dealer. Have them pull out both sets of pads. And, read the DOT pad friction codes from both. Share your research :wink:

 

[molson.david]

Why would you want to replace a premium semi-metallic with an economy ceramic?

Go to dealer. Have them pull out both sets of pads. And, read the DOT pad friction codes from both. Share your research :wink:

"premium semi-metallic" sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Never had 04465-AZ020-TM on my car, but had Wagner ThermoQuiet on many different cars and don't have any complains about them. They are hands down better then the OEM pads.

 

[Bjnzzzle]

Why would you want to replace a premium semi-metallic with an economy ceramic?

Go to dealer. Have them pull out both sets of pads. And, read the DOT pad friction codes from both. Share your research :wink:

I did some research and see that ceramic pads will has less dust, better performance that semi-metallic. The down side is ceramic pads will damage the rotor slightly faster. Toyota recently has ceramic pads called value line, so the price is cheaper. I have a few ceramic pads on some of non-toyota vehicles and the I have no complaint about the performance at all.

 

[Greasymechtech]

Knowledge is not an oxymoron.

Everybody wants dust free quiet pads. I want pads that 'stop', that communicate, and are not vague. Could care less if there is some noise or if my rotors last 50k or 100k. And, am more than capable of cleaning any dust off my wheels.

Keep your pansy ceramic pads for the zombie masses.

 

[molson.david]

Knowledge is not an oxymoron.

Everybody wants dust free quiet pads. I want pads that 'stop', that communicate, and are not vague. Could care less if there is some noise or if my rotors last 50k or 100k. And, am more than capable of cleaning any dust off my wheels.

Keep your pansy ceramic pads for the zombie masses.

Actually, semi-metallic pads are for masses. Every cheap and inexpensive car on the market comes with semi-metallic pads and none come with more expensive and better performing ceramic. Stopping power of the OEM semi-metallic and rotors is average at the best. Opinion is just an opinion, but most of the ppl that know a thing or two about cars switching to ceramic. I'm not saying Toyota ceramic pads are good, never had them and be they are shit compared to some other good ceramic pads, but Toyota semi-metallic pads are definitely not good at all and just moderately better than Duralast etc.

 

[Greasymechtech]

Marketing to clueless consumers is too funny.

http://www.atlautosports.com/ceramic-vs-metallic-brake-pads/

http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/the-best-brake-pads-ceramic-or-metallic.aspx

http://brakeperformance.com/Ceramic-vs-metallic-pads.php

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/12/brake-pads-what-to-look-for/index.htm

I know that the masses want dust free wheels and lifetime pads rotors(just like lifetime fluids and no maintenance). But, when it comes to braking performance, I could care less about dust, noise, life.... In a panic braking situation, I'll take my performance pads over any ceramic pad. And, I'll never use OE lowest bidder pads regardless of the composition.

If the OP wants to reduce his braking performance, while increasing pad/rotor life, reducing dust/noise.... then by all means, use that ceramic pad, don't tailgate, and avoid Mt Washington, Waipio Rd, and Pikes Peak. Enjoy that ceramic formula during those short warm Mn winters!

 

[molson.david]

Seems to me you never had a set of good ceramic pads.