[greeneclipse]

A family friend is offering to sell me his 2012 xle awd with 190k miles before he trades it in. All maintenance done at dealership. No damage. New tires. Basically in excellent condition.

How much do you think it’s worth?

Are they still reliable with this mileage?

thanks!

 

[sdspeed]

That isn't high mileage, IMHO.
If your in snow country or where they salt the roads get it up on a lift, rust and corrosion can be the death nail to any purchase.
Do your due diligence like ya didn't know the owner. Prices are still all over the place, on the left coast they seem to be running $12k-$15k with that mileage, some even higher.
Carfax, Autotrader, NADA, KBB. all places to get an idea anyway.

 

[2011sienna]

The biggest problem is oil consumption check the tail pipe to see if it's black or if there's a rust black means you're burning oil from the Rings if you can check the spark plugs I have a 2011 4 cylinder oil consumption has been a problem but it got more radical right about the year 20 20 almost 3 quarts per oil change I've had this problem since 2011 but at the time Toyota told me it was acceptable to burn a quarter quart per oil change and now I find that there is a defect in the rings that they chose to use on the Pistons of the earlier siennas 2011 and up but Toyota does not honor the recall for my year

 

[sdspeed]

The 2012 XLE has a 3.5 V6 and I don't believe it had a oil consumption issue but still worth looking into.

 

[2011sienna]

Don't get me wrong I still love my 2011 with 179,000 MI I'm just driving a time bomb

 

[Corolla_2021]

A family friend is offering to sell me his 2012 xle awd with 190k miles before he trades it in. All maintenance done at dealership. No damage. New tires. Basically in excellent condition.
How much do you think it’s worth?
Are they still reliable with this mileage?

thanks!

Absolutely. The Sienna with its 2GR-FE engine is one of the most reliable and trouble free vehicles. Most of the issues with the 1st year release were resolved in 2012 like the infamous rubber oil cooler line etc. The tow transmission cooler came standard on 2012. Do take a test drive to see if anything obvious issue sticks out (van pulls etc.). Since you know who who you are buying from and have the record history to back it up you should be fine. You can actually go to a Toyota dealer with the VIN and they should be able to print you the maintenance history of the van.

1. Rust - As mentioned by the poster above, if it is from the rust belt, get the underbody checked.
2. Rear differential coupling - This is one of the issues with the AWD but is totally repairable as a DIY. Check out siennachat for details.....Whirring noise in rear end Sienna AWD
3. Sparkplugs/Waterpump./Thermostat replacement mileage
   1. Sparkplugs are recommended at 120K. If done at a later mileage, add 120K and you are good
   2. Waterpump/Thermostat - This is a labor intensive process. If not replaced then add around 350-500 for getting these replaced. if DIY then $100 or less plus your time

With proper maintenance the engine will go well past 400K provided you are willing to keep it that long. As part of your negotiation, factor the replacement cost of suspension parts (shocks/struts/control arms/bushings etc), tires etc.If the suspension parts have been replaced in the past 30K-40K miles with OEM parts, I wouldn't bother. Also get info on the last fluid change (coolant, break & transmission).

Toyota does not have a tranny fluid flush as part of 3rd Gen vehicle maintenance schedule. See if your buddy had it flushed (or drained/refilled). If not, do it after you purchase. This forum and Siennachat has enough details to get you steered in the right direction.

Last of all do not be deterred by minor issues. Remember, you are purchasing a used vehicle so some things would not be what you expect to see on anew vehicle but otherwise the 3rd Gen Sienna except for 2015, which was a transition year, are great vehicles with very few issues.

As for the price, see what your bud is getting from the trade in and then see if he would step down a bit. If not, get it for what it will be traded for.

 

[drcoffee]

Go to the toyota owners app, sign up and enter his vin into the garage. There you can see all the service done by toyota. Look for what seems to be major or chronic problems. If its fairly clean, buy it. If the tranny or engine or driveline had problems, decide what your risk tolerance is. Carfax is crap on its own but combined with dealership service records, it completes the puzzle.
=> do know upfront that AWD eat tires every 30,000 miles. At $1,000 a set, start saving up. I prefer FWD and I get ~50,000 miles per set.

 

[W202mae]

My 2011 Sienna LE is reaching 475k miles and still drives smooth, as long as car is maintained correctly (prior and going forward) there is still slot of life left in this van.